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Bonn1997
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7/12/2012  9:40 AM
Novak had much better and Lin slightly better scoring efficiency but scoring efficiency is one area (probably the only one) Amare is still good at.
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knicks1248
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7/12/2012  9:48 AM
FISH if we had westbrook you would still here guys calling for his head, cause he's not a real pg, and shot 4-20 in a deciding game..
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7/12/2012  9:49 AM
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ChuckBuck wrote:Gotta agree with the haters. Amare has to sacrifice his game and play the "Garnet" role. Set good picks, hit that mid to long range all day, pick his spots inside. The guy is turning 30 soon, he no longer is the man. He has to forget about averaging 25-26 pts and focus on getting a double double and playing great help D. Body your man, box out, call out picks etc. Do the little things. Enough talk, enough twitter, just lead by example tough guy.
sacrifice for who? Who on this roster is Amare sacrificing for? Melo? Lin? Who on this roster scores at a better FG%? Chandler.. and thats it.

dumb dumb dumb statement amigo.

Lets see... our PF averages 54% shooting for his career. He scored at over 50% without Nash last year. So lets take shots away from one of the leagues most effecient scorers and give those shots too _____________ (fill in the blank)

By the way, whatever you put on that blank line is the wrong answer. Its a trick!


The reason his FG% was high was because he was able to blow by his defender and get close to the hoop. From what we saw last year, he has lost that explosive first step and can no longer get close to the hoop. He is much slower and gets trapped when he tries to dribble.

Unless he can return to form of 2 years ago, he is not going to be able to get close to the basket to have a 50% FG%. Since he is unable to do that, it is prudent to design the offense around Lin+Melo.

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7/12/2012  9:51 AM
these comments are absurd. 98% of thıs guy career has been play'd at a elıte level and u guys go off the fluke year? smh..u same guys wıll be on his nuts when he regaıns hıs normal game. mark my words. Look how Bosh looked one year then the next went back to form.
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7/12/2012  9:53 AM
knicks1248 wrote:FISH if we had westbrook you would still here guys calling for his head, cause he's not a real pg, and shot 4-20 in a deciding game..

Justifiably so
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7/12/2012  9:53 AM
FoeDiddy wrote:these comments are absurd. 98% of thıs guy career has been play'd at a elıte level and u guys go off the fluke year? smh..u same guys wıll be on his nuts when he regaıns hıs normal game. mark my words. Look how Bosh looked one year then the next went back to form.

Thats what I am hoping for. That he returns to his 2010 ability.
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7/12/2012  9:54 AM
knicks1248 wrote:What the hell is going here, I see this is what-have-you-done-for-me-lately bunch..

one good season and one bad season, but almost all of you seem to remember is the 25 or so bad games that he had.

You retards should be thankful this guy jump started our rise, you should be thankful cause no other allstar player wanted to come close to wearing a knick uniform in the last 10/11 years, and we could be stuck with David Lee, who despite making 20 mill less then amare is still over paid big time.

Most of you are sounding like Stephen A..I don't need Amare being no lunch pail expensive role player,
because he has the respect around the league as a force, and it's because of him that these veterens decided to play here.

Im just surprise at some of you who are normaly smart basketball fans, but seemingly don't appreciate the real bottom line.

Amare had .5 good seasons and 1.5 bad ones.

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7/12/2012  9:55 AM
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fishmike wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Gotta agree with the haters. Amare has to sacrifice his game and play the "Garnet" role. Set good picks, hit that mid to long range all day, pick his spots inside. The guy is turning 30 soon, he no longer is the man. He has to forget about averaging 25-26 pts and focus on getting a double double and playing great help D. Body your man, box out, call out picks etc. Do the little things. Enough talk, enough twitter, just lead by example tough guy.
sacrifice for who? Who on this roster is Amare sacrificing for? Melo? Lin? Who on this roster scores at a better FG%? Chandler.. and thats it.

dumb dumb dumb statement amigo.

Lets see... our PF averages 54% shooting for his career. He scored at over 50% without Nash last year. So lets take shots away from one of the leagues most effecient scorers and give those shots too _____________ (fill in the blank)

By the way, whatever you put on that blank line is the wrong answer. Its a trick!


The reason his FG% was high was because he was able to blow by his defender and get close to the hoop. From what we saw last year, he has lost that explosive first step and can no longer get close to the hoop. He is much slower and gets trapped when he tries to dribble.

Unless he can return to form of 2 years ago, he is not going to be able to get close to the basket to have a 50% FG%. Since he is unable to do that, it is prudent to design the offense around Lin+Melo.

So how dıd he look when he lost the weıght he put on for that stretch last season and was dunkiıng on people? He had hıs fırst step back and was blowıng by defenders at hıs playıng weıght.

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7/12/2012  9:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/12/2012  9:58 AM
fishmike wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:What the hell is going here, I see this is what-have-you-done-for-me-lately bunch..

one good season and one bad season, but almost all of you seem to remember is the 25 or so bad games that he had.

You retards should be thankful this guy jump started our rise, you should be thankful cause no other allstar player wanted to come close to wearing a knick uniform in the last 10/11 years, and we could be stuck with David Lee, who despite making 20 mill less then amare is still over paid big time.

Most of you are sounding like Stephen A..I don't need Amare being no lunch pail expensive role player,
because he has the respect around the league as a force, and it's because of him that these veterens decided to play here.

Im just surprise at some of you who are normaly smart basketball fans, but seemingly don't appreciate the real bottom line.

stop making sense.

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7/12/2012  9:58 AM
Silverfuel wrote:
fishmike wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Gotta agree with the haters. Amare has to sacrifice his game and play the "Garnet" role. Set good picks, hit that mid to long range all day, pick his spots inside. The guy is turning 30 soon, he no longer is the man. He has to forget about averaging 25-26 pts and focus on getting a double double and playing great help D. Body your man, box out, call out picks etc. Do the little things. Enough talk, enough twitter, just lead by example tough guy.
sacrifice for who? Who on this roster is Amare sacrificing for? Melo? Lin? Who on this roster scores at a better FG%? Chandler.. and thats it.

dumb dumb dumb statement amigo.

Lets see... our PF averages 54% shooting for his career. He scored at over 50% without Nash last year. So lets take shots away from one of the leagues most effecient scorers and give those shots too _____________ (fill in the blank)

By the way, whatever you put on that blank line is the wrong answer. Its a trick!


The reason his FG% was high was because he was able to blow by his defender and get close to the hoop. From what we saw last year, he has lost that explosive first step and can no longer get close to the hoop. He is much slower and gets trapped when he tries to dribble.

Unless he can return to form of 2 years ago, he is not going to be able to get close to the basket to have a 50% FG%. Since he is unable to do that, it is prudent to design the offense around Lin+Melo.

Blow by who, some stiff slow ass center while chandler and gallo pull there man out to the 3pt line playing the 4.

now we have Tyson playing the paint and amare has to fight thru 2 defenders now, one in front and one coming from the weak side....

I don't how many time I saw amare headed to the rim, gets by his man only to be met with another defender hanging in the paint cause chandler is useless on the perimter

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7/12/2012  10:13 AM
jrodmc wrote:I agree with the hate: I just wish both Stat and Melo would die in a fiery bus wreck and have bequeathed their roster spots to DLee and Gallo in perpetuity. And their respective estates would also give the Knicks back ALL of their contract money, especially all that money that's been wasted over the past two years.

Then everything would be perfect again. If only this could come true...

And Melo still looks fat, and Stat is still saying and doing stupid things! And our team s-u-c-k-s sucks sucks sucks.

Wow I hate Knick fans sometimes my God

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7/12/2012  10:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/12/2012  10:15 AM
fishmike wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:Gotta agree with the haters. Amare has to sacrifice his game and play the "Garnet" role. Set good picks, hit that mid to long range all day, pick his spots inside. The guy is turning 30 soon, he no longer is the man. He has to forget about averaging 25-26 pts and focus on getting a double double and playing great help D. Body your man, box out, call out picks etc. Do the little things. Enough talk, enough twitter, just lead by example tough guy.
sacrifice for who? Who on this roster is Amare sacrificing for? Melo? Lin? Who on this roster scores at a better FG%? Chandler.. and thats it.

dumb dumb dumb statement amigo.

Lets see... our PF averages 54% shooting for his career. He scored at over 50% without Nash last year. So lets take shots away from one of the leagues most effecient scorers and give those shots too _____________ (fill in the blank)

By the way, whatever you put on that blank line is the wrong answer. Its a trick!

I guess we should make broke back Amare the centerpiece of our team, and witness his slow fade into oblivion. Listen I like the dude, but he's turning 30 in a few months, and hasn't added any new wrinkles to his game(yet). The "truly great bigs" (Ewing, Malone, Barkley, Shaq, Hakeem, Garnet) added weapons to their arsenal like drop steps, fade aways, turnarounds etc or did other things to make up for their lost athleticism. I have seen ZERO drop steps, post moves, hook shots, up and unders, shimmys, head fakes, jab steps, baseline turnaround J's, step backs....NOTHING! If we don't see a different Amare with at least 1 new move, he better at least bring it on the defensive end and do the little things. If we don't get either, he truly is a waste of ****ing space, and should be put to pasture and shot. His contract may end up making Joe Johnson's look reasonable. Hakeem work your magic please!

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7/12/2012  10:23 AM
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7/12/2012  10:42 AM
Mray20 wrote:Amar'e Stoudemire ‏@Amareisreal
"I'm working so hard to help bring a championship to NY. I'm willing to do whatever it takes 4 that 2 happen"

Including coming off the bench?

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7/12/2012  10:53 AM
PLEASE! STAT wasn't able to do his normal summer work and it messed up his game. Then add in the lack of good passes in his spots and the lack of spacing due to Melo and Tyson and thats the biggest reasons STAT had a down year. Then his back flared up too.

This summer he's been able to train and it should make a huge difference. Having REAL PG's is gonna be huge too. We're not beating the Heat without STAT so get off his back!!!

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7/12/2012  10:59 AM
Is he planning on breaking into the Heat's trophy cabinet? Cos that's the only way this is happening.
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7/12/2012  11:02 AM
markvmc wrote:Is he planning on breaking into the Heat's trophy cabinet? Cos that's the only way this is happening.

Be careful, breaking anything is detrimental to his health!

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7/12/2012  11:06 AM
nixluva wrote:PLEASE! STAT wasn't able to do his normal summer work and it messed up his game. Then add in the lack of good passes in his spots and the lack of spacing due to Melo and Tyson and thats the biggest reasons STAT had a down year. Then his back flared up too.

This summer he's been able to train and it should make a huge difference. Having REAL PG's is gonna be huge too. We're not beating the Heat without STAT so get off his back!!!


He's making $20 mil a year. He couldn't find any doctors and physical therapists to work with him last summer?
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7/12/2012  11:08 AM
I agree with both sides this time. Stat was off his game last season for many reasons. I believe he will bounce back. Youdon't just lose your mid-range game. Injuries, lack of PG play, Melo on constant ISOs, Chandler in the lane...

BUT, he showed a serious lack of professionalism on the defensive side, lack of hustle, lack of interest in boxing out or rebounding. So his words ring very hollow to me right now. If he brings more of that Shyte this season, he's a chump.

I hope he steps up and matches his words with some action.

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7/12/2012  11:10 AM
Moonangie wrote:I agree with both sides this time. Stat was off his game last season for many reasons. I believe he will bounce back. Youdon't just lose your mid-range game. Injuries, lack of PG play, Melo on constant ISOs, Chandler in the lane...

BUT, he showed a serious lack of professionalism on the defensive side, lack of hustle, lack of interest in boxing out or rebounding. So his words ring very hollow to me right now. If he brings more of that Shyte this season, he's a chump.

I hope he steps up and matches his words with some action.

good post. i think amar'e will be better on the floor this season... but i've also lost a lot of faith in him as a team leader or even as a team player.

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