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We just hired Jason Kidd out to 2015....
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VCoug
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10/23/2012  7:23 AM
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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10/23/2012  7:46 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:We have bigger problems than Jason Kidd's $3 million salary.

much bigger

Of Course...

You opened up Lindora's box.

Ha..not really, I got them all in other threads loving and signing on to all these moves that will cripple us...They all were pumped for the Kidd signing saying they have been targeting Kidd since the loss to Miami...

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10/23/2012  12:05 PM
VCoug wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

And with all that talent, OKC got their asses kicked by the same team that kicked ours by the same margin - 4-1

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10/23/2012  12:37 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

And with all that talent, OKC got their asses kicked by the same team that kicked ours by the same margin - 4-1

Not really. OKC lost by 4, 6, 6, and 14 points. We lost by 33, 10, 17, and 12 points. There's a big difference between losing the way OKC did and losing the way we did. Not to mention that OKC is still a young and improving team whose best players haven't hit their prime yet and we're a veteran team with only one player, Shump, who we can expect to actually improve over the next several years.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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10/23/2012  12:40 PM
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:We have bigger problems than Jason Kidd's $3 million salary.

much bigger

Of Course...

You opened up Lindora's box.

Ha..not really, I got them all in other threads loving and signing on to all these moves that will cripple us...They all were pumped for the Kidd signing saying they have been targeting Kidd since the loss to Miami...

Wait so you are saying Kidd is done after 1 preseason game playing off the ball?

VCoug
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10/23/2012  12:41 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:We have bigger problems than Jason Kidd's $3 million salary.

much bigger

Of Course...

You opened up Lindora's box.

Ha..not really, I got them all in other threads loving and signing on to all these moves that will cripple us...They all were pumped for the Kidd signing saying they have been targeting Kidd since the loss to Miami...

Wait so you are saying Kidd is done after 1 preseason game playing off the ball?

Actually, I think we're saying that we was done last year when he averaged 6 ppg and 5 apg.

Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
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10/23/2012  12:42 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:We have bigger problems than Jason Kidd's $3 million salary.

much bigger

Of Course...

You opened up Lindora's box.

Ha..not really, I got them all in other threads loving and signing on to all these moves that will cripple us...They all were pumped for the Kidd signing saying they have been targeting Kidd since the loss to Miami...

Wait so you are saying Kidd is done after 1 preseason game playing off the ball?

No..I said he was done two years ago...He is just proving it further now...

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10/23/2012  12:43 PM
VCoug wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

And with all that talent, OKC got their asses kicked by the same team that kicked ours by the same margin - 4-1

Not really. OKC lost by 4, 6, 6, and 14 points. We lost by 33, 10, 17, and 12 points. There's a big difference between losing the way OKC did and losing the way we did. Not to mention that OKC is still a young and improving team whose best players haven't hit their prime yet and we're a veteran team with only one player, Shump, who we can expect to actually improve over the next several years.

A loss is a loss.

Once we are delving, can we look at which roster was depleted?

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10/23/2012  1:56 PM
VCoug wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
holfresh wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
JamesKPolk wrote:We have bigger problems than Jason Kidd's $3 million salary.

much bigger

Of Course...

You opened up Lindora's box.

Ha..not really, I got them all in other threads loving and signing on to all these moves that will cripple us...They all were pumped for the Kidd signing saying they have been targeting Kidd since the loss to Miami...

Wait so you are saying Kidd is done after 1 preseason game playing off the ball?

Actually, I think we're saying that we was done last year when he averaged 6 ppg and 5 apg.

His minutes were limited for the 1st time and it should be with the Knicks. Why did started at the 2 lastnight over James White is beyond me.

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10/24/2012  6:16 AM
VCoug wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

And with all that talent, OKC got their asses kicked by the same team that kicked ours by the same margin - 4-1

Not really. OKC lost by 4, 6, 6, and 14 points. We lost by 33, 10, 17, and 12 points. There's a big difference between losing the way OKC did and losing the way we did. Not to mention that OKC is still a young and improving team whose best players haven't hit their prime yet and we're a veteran team with only one player, Shump, who we can expect to actually improve over the next several years.


Shump days are numbered....Knicks eat their young. Mark my words.
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10/24/2012  6:18 AM
VCoug wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
VCoug wrote:
DJMUSIC wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

your problem is you think everything & every pro 'Young' in the NBA is the way to go for a
roster full up & down all 12 men

Team needs some experience, some battle war vets with mix of young upcoming guys or guys
whom has guts to get it done. Felton would have been nice & DJ had no issue with Raymond
but JKidd got some gas left in the engine

We're not losing any sleep at not getting Felton instead of JKidd
and I dont see the Knicks are done yet in this wheeling and dealing to improve

Everyone needs to stop talking about this bull**** "experience". Last season only three players got regular burn who weren't veterans: Shumpert, Lin, and Jorts. The least experienced regular after those guys was JR Smith who had been in the league for 7 years at that point. You people are trying to make it out like we were the OKC Thunder where all our best players had less than 4 years in the league. Getting pounded the last two years in the playoffs wasn't because of a lack of "experience" but because of a lack of talent.

And with all that talent, OKC got their asses kicked by the same team that kicked ours by the same margin - 4-1

Not really. OKC lost by 4, 6, 6, and 14 points. We lost by 33, 10, 17, and 12 points. There's a big difference between losing the way OKC did and losing the way we did. Not to mention that OKC is still a young and improving team whose best players haven't hit their prime yet and we're a veteran team with only one player, Shump, who we can expect to actually improve over the next several years.


Well put.
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10/24/2012  6:21 AM
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

We didn't have pg then we will have Lin/ Kidd now and no more excuses for Melo and Amare. What is the problem?

They have all the excuses in the world now...Talk radio is blowing up...A rookie and and old man..Lin is a shoot first guard...We have three guys on the roster who needs lots of touches to be effective..Lin has to have the ball and is a volume shooter, so is Melo...Lin was shooting more than STAT in games they played together...But don't worry, Kidd can read defenses...

Lin is no Rubio, but he is a point guard and I don't buy that he is a shoot first PG. He has shown beyond any doubt he can make people around him better. I don't know of a PG who doesn't have to have the ball, so no idea what that has to do with anything.

Your problem with Lin/Nash/Kidd is they'll take shots away from Melo. I think that's a good thing. And the less we have Melo hoisting bad shots while double-teamed the better for us.

+1000000 Lin was avg. almost 25ppg 10ast. Them we fired the coach that made it happen and let Lin go for nothing...Smh! Gotta love this owner!

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10/24/2012  8:35 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/24/2012  8:37 AM
ShellTopAdidas wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
loweyecue wrote:
holfresh wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:You are the only one really that is going crazy. I want to know how your boy Felton would have helped us without MDA and 10 lbs heavier

We got completely destroyed last year by the Heat...We are adding JKIdd and bringing back the same team...Where is the optimism???

We didn't have pg then we will have Lin/ Kidd now and no more excuses for Melo and Amare. What is the problem?

They have all the excuses in the world now...Talk radio is blowing up...A rookie and and old man..Lin is a shoot first guard...We have three guys on the roster who needs lots of touches to be effective..Lin has to have the ball and is a volume shooter, so is Melo...Lin was shooting more than STAT in games they played together...But don't worry, Kidd can read defenses...

Lin is no Rubio, but he is a point guard and I don't buy that he is a shoot first PG. He has shown beyond any doubt he can make people around him better. I don't know of a PG who doesn't have to have the ball, so no idea what that has to do with anything.

Your problem with Lin/Nash/Kidd is they'll take shots away from Melo. I think that's a good thing. And the less we have Melo hoisting bad shots while double-teamed the better for us.

+1000000 Lin was avg. almost 25ppg 10ast. Them we fired the coach that made it happen and let Lin go for nothing...Smh! Gotta love this owner!

Ha...My problem with Kidd is that he is 39 years old and has been done the last two years...Kidd would not take any shots away from Melo..He averages 6 points a game..I actually think he would set up Melo more..But he is done...I have zero problems with Nash, I just would not have given up Shrump for him...I have a huge problem with PG who can't play defense as well which brings me to Lin...Lin is not a better scorer than Melo or Amare, yet on most nights, he is shooting more than Amare...Where Lin lost me is how he reacted when Melo and Amare came back from injuries...He didn't want to pass the ball to either player...Big problem if you are the PG..Thus the reason I say Lin wanted a stage for himself, he felt threatened by the two guys who occupied the spotlight before him...Now, I'm a Knick fan first and foremost, how u guys support a player after that is beyond me...But seems like you think the individual is greater than the team..so makes sense...Funny how the team looked a different putting defense first and went 18-6...But that bothers you doesn't it...You still yearn for MDA...Sub .500 is all good as long as your guy is in the staring role...Well he has his staring role now, u should tune in to see how it works over a season and let's see if 25ppg and 10 asst per holds water...

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10/24/2012  8:45 AM
Doesn't his money come off the book if he retires? This year or next are probably his last year. So why worry about 2015. Also if you think Kidd has been going hard you are crazy. Even if he is done can he still gives more than Fields gives you.
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10/24/2012  9:07 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:Doesn't his money come off the book if he retires? This year or next are probably his last year. So why worry about 2015. Also if you think Kidd has been going hard you are crazy. Even if he is done can he still gives more than Fields gives you.

Ha..No way he gives you what Fields gives you in terms of energy..You are hoping he is holding back...Kidd is not retiring..No one is walking away from 9 mil...Get real...

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10/24/2012  10:28 AM
holfresh wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Doesn't his money come off the book if he retires? This year or next are probably his last year. So why worry about 2015. Also if you think Kidd has been going hard you are crazy. Even if he is done can he still gives more than Fields gives you.

Ha..No way he gives you what Fields gives you in terms of energy..You are hoping he is holding back...Kidd is not retiring..No one is walking away from 9 mil...Get real...

What Energy. He drained energy. He gives you rebounds, bricked 3s, and bricked Fts. O.K. I am harsh on fields but thats how I feel. If I am proved wrong I will be gladly post to give you your props.

We just hired Jason Kidd out to 2015....

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