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7/3/2012  6:23 PM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

I meant during the isiah years i think Glen has been smart
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7/3/2012  6:28 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

I meant during the isiah years i think Glen has been smart

I think the first 3 years of the Walsh era were tough.everyone knew what the Knicks wanted to do and at times the Knicks gave up too much to get there in my opiniOn

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7/3/2012  6:31 PM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

I meant during the isiah years i think Glen has been smart

I think the first 3 years of the Walsh era were tough.everyone knew what the Knicks wanted to do and at times the Knicks gave up too much to get there in my opiniOn

Ya i mean giving houston the pick was bad mov e but other than that donnie did a good job. I cant blame him for not getting james since lebron/wade/bosh had that plan made for at least a year
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7/3/2012  6:34 PM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

Brilliant is absolutely the right word. Remember this time last year when everyone asked, "how can we possibly add a decent supporting cast to Melo and Stoudemire when we spent all that money on them?" Well since then we have added Chandler, Lin, Shumpert, Smith, Novak, Jeffries, and Harrellson. I would say we added more than decent depth. Grunnie turned a weakness into a strength with little flexibility to do so.

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7/3/2012  6:36 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

I meant during the isiah years i think Glen has been smart

I think the first 3 years of the Walsh era were tough.everyone knew what the Knicks wanted to do and at times the Knicks gave up too much to get there in my opiniOn

Ya i mean giving houston the pick was bad mov e but other than that donnie did a good job. I cant blame him for not getting james since lebron/wade/bosh had that plan made for at least a year

Odd times in the nba. Lbj summer was historic. A lot of teams went all in.

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7/3/2012  6:48 PM
Who the f is 'We'?
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7/3/2012  6:51 PM
Panos wrote:Who the f is 'We'?
Our team, The New York Knicks
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7/3/2012  6:52 PM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
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IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I don't know if giving a scrub like Fields 20M is outsmarting anyone. It's a desperation move to get Nash.

I never said it was. In fact i said giving landry 7 million a year is beyond stupid. I meant that toronto has outsmarted us in our pursuit of nash i could care less about fields

Outsmarting someone is when the other party could've prevented something from happening. The Knicks actually put together a more than feasible plan when no one gave them a chance. No way they could prevent Toronto from offering Fields a crazy sum to block the Knicks creative maneuvering. It's not as if Toronto was going to even go after Landry had the Knicks not been in the Nash hunt. Knicks haven't been outsmarted. They've been out-desperate-ed.

I was kidding. I meant taht for once the knicks might have done the right thing and not overpay for someone

Let the raps overpay for fields and Nash. Nash will have a worse team in TO than in phx. Let them freeze up north.

If Nash wants to go there, let him.
At least he is not going to Boston or Miami.

Fields was worthless in the playoffs and since melo came - good riddance.

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7/3/2012  7:00 PM
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IrishKnickFan wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
MSG3 wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I don't know if giving a scrub like Fields 20M is outsmarting anyone. It's a desperation move to get Nash.

I never said it was. In fact i said giving landry 7 million a year is beyond stupid. I meant that toronto has outsmarted us in our pursuit of nash i could care less about fields

Outsmarting someone is when the other party could've prevented something from happening. The Knicks actually put together a more than feasible plan when no one gave them a chance. No way they could prevent Toronto from offering Fields a crazy sum to block the Knicks creative maneuvering. It's not as if Toronto was going to even go after Landry had the Knicks not been in the Nash hunt. Knicks haven't been outsmarted. They've been out-desperate-ed.

I was kidding. I meant taht for once the knicks might have done the right thing and not overpay for someone

Let the raps overpay for fields and Nash. Nash will have a worse team in TO than in phx. Let them freeze up north.

If Nash wants to go there, let him.
At least he is not going to Boston or Miami.

Fields was worthless in the playoffs and since melo came - good riddance.

Agree its better than him going to miami,boston, or even the nets
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7/3/2012  9:18 PM
How is Toronto giving Fields an insane contract "outsmarting" us?
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7/4/2012  2:08 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:I always get the sense that the knicks always seem to get outsmarted by other teams. Obviously isiah was abused by every GM during his run,the melo trade is still in progress, and now thsi landry fields thing. Now I dont think fields is worth 7 million a year but now it will difficult to get nash and we may also lose a player as well

I think the cap clearing years getting ready for the lbj summer the Knicks were outsmarted/taken advantage of. Last year I thought Grunwald was brilliant

I meant during the isiah years i think Glen has been smart

I think the first 3 years of the Walsh era were tough.everyone knew what the Knicks wanted to do and at times the Knicks gave up too much to get there in my opiniOn

Ya i mean giving houston the pick was bad mov e but other than that donnie did a good job. I cant blame him for not getting james since lebron/wade/bosh had that plan made for at least a year

That pick would have been gone in the melo deal any how, we probably would kave kept mosgov if we had the pick..then the persuit of tyson would have probably not gone down.

There was 1 major issue I had with walsh, other then sending the pick to houston, an that was Not calling the jazz about deron, we still would have lost couple a draft picks, but we would still have either gallo or chandlera. A package of felton 2 future 1st rounders fields and chandler would have wrk just fine.

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