Jmpasq wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Much improved team if his happens, but they still wont compete for a championship if this happens. I wont be dissapointed if this occurs.

Really U dont think a roster starting like this for example this year could compete for a championship
in another year OR 2.

Dwight Howard
Kenyon Martin
Gerald Wallace
Joe Johnson
Deron Williams

Kidd

You do know Howard just had back surgery, Joe Johnson is 31 and gradually declining, Gerald Wallace has yet to play a full 82 games, Jason Kidd is 39 and ready for retirement, K-Mart is 34 and one knee injury away from ending his career right?

Jmpasq wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Much improved team if his happens, but they still wont compete for a championship if this happens. I wont be dissapointed if this occurs.

Really U dont think a roster starting like this for example this year could compete for a championship
in another year OR 2.

Dwight Howard
Kenyon Martin
Gerald Wallace
Joe Johnson
Deron Williams

Kidd

SupremeCommander wrote:if you're going to Starphuch, you might as well do it right. The Nets are teaching the Knicks how to straphuch properly--and in our own backyard

This is better than Marbury or Randolph or Melo. Somewhere, Dolan must be throwing a temper tantrum

Hide the Jack Daniels before he panics and re-hires Isiah Thomas

The Celtics got considerably better adding Melo, Sullinger and about to retain Jeff Green. The Knicks are the same team as last season, which was a shade above average.

Look for the Knicks to trade Shumpert, Fields and Douglas for Nash and then bring in Camby once things go down with the Nets.

Allanfan20 wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Much improved team if his happens, but they still wont compete for a championship if this happens. I wont be dissapointed if this occurs.

Really U dont think a roster starting like this for example this year could compete for a championship
in another year OR 2.

Dwight Howard
Kenyon Martin
Gerald Wallace
Joe Johnson
Deron Williams

Kidd

Nope. It looks like a relatively easy lineup for the Heat to guard if you ask me. Lets just assume Wade declines a lot and Joe Johnson continues at his pace. They cross each other out. If Wade doesn't decline much at all and his health/head comes back... then forget it. LeBron can stick Williams easy if Chalmers can't handle Deron that much. Udonis and Bosh will not have the edge over Dwight, but I don't see him beasting them. Heck, Dwights defense might become useless if Bosh and Haslem hit those shots and that's not a big if, because they are good shooters... at least Bosh is.

That team wont be contending for sheot.

Lebrons 3 worst shooting games of the season all came against the Magic

Gymkata wrote:When exactly did Joe Johnson cease having one of the worst contracts in pro sports? When did Deron Williams rediscover his willingness to actually improve the play of his teammates? And Dwight's disc problems, those are a thing of the past?

Good for the Nets if they pull it off and they'll certainly be legit, but let's not pretend this is the Justice League of America forming here. The willingness of us Knicks fans to drop deuces on our players at the first sight of our neighbor's shiny new car is discouraging.

By the way- someone with the worst contract in the league can still be a piece of a championship puzzle. Atlanta f'd up big time in making him the cornerstone on their team, but he is still a good player, and will be better if the Nets have Howard, Wallace, and Williams surrounding him.

Paladin55 wrote:

Gymkata wrote:When exactly did Joe Johnson cease having one of the worst contracts in pro sports? When did Deron Williams rediscover his willingness to actually improve the play of his teammates? And Dwight's disc problems, those are a thing of the past?

Good for the Nets if they pull it off and they'll certainly be legit, but let's not pretend this is the Justice League of America forming here. The willingness of us Knicks fans to drop deuces on our players at the first sight of our neighbor's shiny new car is discouraging.

As with all teams, you are looking at potential. You start with the idea that everyone will be healthy and play at the top of their respective games. You can critique the Knicks in the same way by examining Anthony's selfishness and Amare's physical readiness.

By the way- someone with the worst contract in the league can still be a piece of a championship puzzle. Atlanta f'd up big time in making him the cornerstone on their team, but he is still a good player, and will be better if the Nets have Howard, Wallace, and Williams surrounding him.

I agree with what you're saying--I just hate playing the hindsight game and using it as a cudgel to bludgeon the Knicks. Most of us were feeling pretty optimistic when STAT signed and then played like a legit MVP candidate for much of the first year. It's easy now to disparage that signing looking at his rotten year last year as well as his hand-to-hand combat with a fire extinguisher. I personally think he'll bounce back and become that 20/10 guy at 50% FG we need him to be. But maybe I'm just a dopey Pollyanna. Just like I think Carmelo has it in him to be more consistently like the due who tore up the league at the end of 2012. Again, perhaps I'm optimistic to a fault. And Tyson is Tyson, a selfless, defensive beast who everyone should get behind and pull for.

I'm just saying I'm tired of the constant green-grass-grazing that seems to go on here. We've got the makings of a good team--and a potentially great one if Nash comes here--so let's roll with it.

HARDCOREKNICKSFAN wrote:I may have been born and raised in Brooklyn, but I will ALWAYS be a KNICKS fan. I've hated the Nets for so long, and this would be an absolute nightmare. The only "rivalry" I want to see between the Knicks and the Nets is the NYK kicking the Nets' asses up and down the court.

"Casual" Knicks fans? Anyone who would switch up on their team were never a real fan of that team, anyway. Fickle fans are views as subhuman to me, and I couldn't care less about them.

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