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mrKnickShot
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6/29/2012  1:33 PM
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holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

when that dimension gets you deep into the playoffs and has you as one of the league's best frontcourt scorers in the game you want to stick with what works.

I will take one dimensional if we are in the conference finals next year just fine.

Ah so if we revert to a one dimensional offense with our current roster we will probable be a perennial conference finals team, ay?

Since he was playing with the best PG at running the PNR of all time that means it should and must still work perfectly even without Nash.

But hey it worked with Felton for a bit when Amare flew out of the gates for his new team until he hit a brick wall.

Do you realize that his explosion has never been the same since the first half of last year? How about that his jump shot which was deadly is in Tahiti?

It's funny how you give him a pass for everything that he does. Hey he punch a glass thingy - so what you never got frustrated in your corp job and punched something? Well I am not a basketball player or a heart surgeon. Nobody cares if I tear up my hand and nobody is paying me 20 million a year to use them.

I guess that's why you have hated Melo so much. He takes away from Super AmarIO.

All that being said, I do think that Amare can benefit from a good PG since he can no longer create his own shot and has zero post game. So, if he comes in shape, does not punch anything, and has no family issues, we might get lucky.

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6/29/2012  1:49 PM
prediction - Amare will have a good first and last year of his contract. Everything in between will be more of the same.
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6/29/2012  1:54 PM
CrushAlot wrote:Amare isnt going anywhere. He is untradeable based on his uninsured contract his poor play and health concerns. Hopefully he can get back to a level of play that will help the team.

Our biggest concerns with his health, was his knees, and that the least of his problems

I find it funny how ppl keep saying that Amare and Melo can't mesh and the real problem lies with him and chandler..

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6/29/2012  2:23 PM
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....


No Amare broke down in the 2nd half of the season. Its been well documented but I do agree lets see how this team does with a healthy Lin & kidd
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6/29/2012  2:23 PM
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CrushAlot wrote:Amare isnt going anywhere. He is untradeable based on his uninsured contract his poor play and health concerns. Hopefully he can get back to a level of play that will help the team.

Our biggest concerns with his health, was his knees, and that the least of his problems

I find it funny how ppl keep saying that Amare and Melo can't mesh and the real problem lies with him and chandler..

His knees can't be insured but currently the biggest problem seems to be his back. He is a freak athlete but athleticism fades. It would be nice if he could adjust his game. I agree about Tyson and Amare. It would probably be best for the Knicks if Amare was the back up 5 and the first big off the bench. I don't think that is happening so it will be interesting to see how things mesh.
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6/29/2012  2:25 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Amare isnt going anywhere. He is untradeable based on his uninsured contract his poor play and health concerns. Hopefully he can get back to a level of play that will help the team.

Our biggest concerns with his health, was his knees, and that the least of his problems

I find it funny how ppl keep saying that Amare and Melo can't mesh and the real problem lies with him and chandler..

His knees can't be insured but currently the biggest problem seems to be his back. He is a freak athlete but athleticism fades. It would be nice if he could adjust his game. I agree about Tyson and Amare. It would probably be best for the Knicks if Amare was the back up 5 and the first big off the bench. I don't think that is happening so it will be interesting to see how things mesh.

I think its time for him to attempt one of those trick dunks.

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6/29/2012  2:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2012  2:32 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:Amare isnt going anywhere. He is untradeable based on his uninsured contract his poor play and health concerns. Hopefully he can get back to a level of play that will help the team.

Our biggest concerns with his health, was his knees, and that the least of his problems

I find it funny how ppl keep saying that Amare and Melo can't mesh and the real problem lies with him and chandler..

His knees can't be insured but currently the biggest problem seems to be his back. He is a freak athlete but athleticism fades. It would be nice if he could adjust his game. I agree about Tyson and Amare. It would probably be best for the Knicks if Amare was the back up 5 and the first big off the bench. I don't think that is happening so it will be interesting to see how things mesh.

I think its time for him to attempt one of those trick dunks.

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6/29/2012  2:36 PM
We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.
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6/29/2012  3:06 PM
nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Feed him where? On top of the key? His jumper is way off? In the post? No post game. If his jumper is off, it closes his drives too. So, getting back that consistent jumper is key. If he can, he will be very valuable (offensively only). If not, he and we are screwed.

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6/29/2012  3:13 PM
nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Your right, when he came back from his brothers death, lin was looking for tyson more on the Pnr the Amare.

When we were letting melo run the point, Amare some how found himself out of his comfort mid range spot and look totally out of rythem.

when lin went down, tyson couldn't seem to get out of the damn way

After mike left, it became te melo show..

no excuses, just reasons..

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6/29/2012  3:14 PM
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nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Your right, when he came back from his brothers death, lin was looking for tyson more on the Pnr the Amare.

When we were letting melo run the point, Amare some how found himself out of his comfort mid range spot and look totally out of rythem.

when lin went down, tyson couldn't seem to get out of the damn way

After mike left, it became te melo show..

no excuses, just reasons..

I think it all come back to his dead jumper. If thats on, everything else would have come.

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6/29/2012  3:50 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

when that dimension gets you deep into the playoffs and has you as one of the league's best frontcourt scorers in the game you want to stick with what works.

I will take one dimensional if we are in the conference finals next year just fine.

Ah so if we revert to a one dimensional offense with our current roster we will probable be a perennial conference finals team, ay?

Since he was playing with the best PG at running the PNR of all time that means it should and must still work perfectly even without Nash.

But hey it worked with Felton for a bit when Amare flew out of the gates for his new team until he hit a brick wall.

Do you realize that his explosion has never been the same since the first half of last year? How about that his jump shot which was deadly is in Tahiti?

It's funny how you give him a pass for everything that he does. Hey he punch a glass thingy - so what you never got frustrated in your corp job and punched something? Well I am not a basketball player or a heart surgeon. Nobody cares if I tear up my hand and nobody is paying me 20 million a year to use them.

I guess that's why you have hated Melo so much. He takes away from Super AmarIO.

All that being said, I do think that Amare can benefit from a good PG since he can no longer create his own shot and has zero post game. So, if he comes in shape, does not punch anything, and has no family issues, we might get lucky.

take Melo's dick far enough out of your ear to listen to what I say and I will respond to your posts.

I actually like Melo and Amare the exactly the same

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6/29/2012  3:59 PM
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nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Your right, when he came back from his brothers death, lin was looking for tyson more on the Pnr the Amare.

When we were letting melo run the point, Amare some how found himself out of his comfort mid range spot and look totally out of rythem.

when lin went down, tyson couldn't seem to get out of the damn way

After mike left, it became te melo show..

no excuses, just reasons..

thats it man... great post.

People just need to see this roster for what it is. Its damn good in my opinion. It still think we have the best frontcourt in the NBA. But one thing is obvious, and that without a real floor general that this frontcourt's weaknesses quickly get exposed, starting with the spacing. Amare is a poor defender, Melo holds the ball and takes too many poor shots, Chandler has zero confidence in his offense... but when they are doing what they do well this squad can be sick.

A healthy Lin + big 3 upfront for training camp this year will be huge also. Really looking forward

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6/29/2012  4:13 PM
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

when that dimension gets you deep into the playoffs and has you as one of the league's best frontcourt scorers in the game you want to stick with what works.

I will take one dimensional if we are in the conference finals next year just fine.

Ah so if we revert to a one dimensional offense with our current roster we will probable be a perennial conference finals team, ay?

Since he was playing with the best PG at running the PNR of all time that means it should and must still work perfectly even without Nash.

But hey it worked with Felton for a bit when Amare flew out of the gates for his new team until he hit a brick wall.

Do you realize that his explosion has never been the same since the first half of last year? How about that his jump shot which was deadly is in Tahiti?

It's funny how you give him a pass for everything that he does. Hey he punch a glass thingy - so what you never got frustrated in your corp job and punched something? Well I am not a basketball player or a heart surgeon. Nobody cares if I tear up my hand and nobody is paying me 20 million a year to use them.

I guess that's why you have hated Melo so much. He takes away from Super AmarIO.

All that being said, I do think that Amare can benefit from a good PG since he can no longer create his own shot and has zero post game. So, if he comes in shape, does not punch anything, and has no family issues, we might get lucky.

take Melo's dick far enough out of your ear to listen to what I say and I will respond to your posts.

I actually like Melo and Amare the exactly the same

If Amare's balls were not blocking you eyes, you would see what everyone knows.

And, BuLL Sh1t you like them the same. You were ragging on Melo all year but not on Amare - who are you fooling? Nobody. You have been softer on Melo lately and thats sweet of you, probably makes it easier to defend Amare with this defense of "I (now) like them both the same and they both have their shortcomings. Well they are not the same at all. Melo can be selfish but is at the top of his game and unstoppable while anyone can stop amare and he heading towards the bottom of his game.

They will both be here next year and they must work better together if we have a chance at doing anything but Amare has to show that he is still viable and it all starts with that jumper which is quite baffling that its gone.

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6/29/2012  4:26 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Your right, when he came back from his brothers death, lin was looking for tyson more on the Pnr the Amare.

When we were letting melo run the point, Amare some how found himself out of his comfort mid range spot and look totally out of rythem.

when lin went down, tyson couldn't seem to get out of the damn way

After mike left, it became te melo show..

no excuses, just reasons..

I think it all come back to his dead jumper. If thats on, everything else would have come.

how, when he was getting the ball in awkard places, coming off of screens like a guard, rushing shots.

No matter how good a shooter a persn is, if he has no rythem he's toast

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6/29/2012  4:28 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
nixluva wrote:We need STAT Period!!! Now IMO we didn't feed him enough when he was going well and that was a mistake. I think STAT will come in lighter and more explosive, but more important his jumper should be better. He's still a major scoring threat and yea he always sucked on D. The thing is he's still a huge part of this team.

Your right, when he came back from his brothers death, lin was looking for tyson more on the Pnr the Amare.

When we were letting melo run the point, Amare some how found himself out of his comfort mid range spot and look totally out of rythem.

when lin went down, tyson couldn't seem to get out of the damn way

After mike left, it became te melo show..

no excuses, just reasons..

I think it all come back to his dead jumper. If thats on, everything else would have come.

how, when he was getting the ball in awkard places, coming off of screens like a guard, rushing shots.

No matter how good a shooter a persn is, if he has no rythem he's toast

While I am sure that no PG did not help him but his shot was way off anyway. Shots that were gimme's last year were just not falling - the same shots.

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6/29/2012  4:30 PM
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holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

It would be nice if Amare had a post game/was a better passer out of the post. He's working on that. You could say the same thing about Melo "sucking ass" because he never worked on employing his arsenal unless he gets the ball where he likes, with plenty of time to work, etc.

Both of those guys are going to have to learn how to do things they haven't done in the past if they give a crap about their legacies.

STAT: defending smarter, post game, passing out of the post, limiting turnovers, not punching glass (justkidding)

Melo: Being useful OFF the ball if that's what the team needs, consistent defensive effort, quicker decisions on passing vs shooting vs taking it to the rim vs, needing to jab step and cross over a few times before knowing what he's going to do, not being a fat coach killing locker room cancer (haha jk)

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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6/29/2012  4:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/29/2012  4:30 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
fishmike wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

when that dimension gets you deep into the playoffs and has you as one of the league's best frontcourt scorers in the game you want to stick with what works.

I will take one dimensional if we are in the conference finals next year just fine.

Ah so if we revert to a one dimensional offense with our current roster we will probable be a perennial conference finals team, ay?

Since he was playing with the best PG at running the PNR of all time that means it should and must still work perfectly even without Nash.

But hey it worked with Felton for a bit when Amare flew out of the gates for his new team until he hit a brick wall.

Do you realize that his explosion has never been the same since the first half of last year? How about that his jump shot which was deadly is in Tahiti?

It's funny how you give him a pass for everything that he does. Hey he punch a glass thingy - so what you never got frustrated in your corp job and punched something? Well I am not a basketball player or a heart surgeon. Nobody cares if I tear up my hand and nobody is paying me 20 million a year to use them.

I guess that's why you have hated Melo so much. He takes away from Super AmarIO.

All that being said, I do think that Amare can benefit from a good PG since he can no longer create his own shot and has zero post game. So, if he comes in shape, does not punch anything, and has no family issues, we might get lucky.

take Melo's dick far enough out of your ear to listen to what I say and I will respond to your posts.

I actually like Melo and Amare the exactly the same

If Amare's balls were not blocking you eyes, you would see what everyone knows.

And, BuLL Sh1t you like them the same. You were ragging on Melo all year but not on Amare - who are you fooling? Nobody. You have been softer on Melo lately and thats sweet of you, probably makes it easier to defend Amare with this defense of "I (now) like them both the same and they both have their shortcomings. Well they are not the same at all. Melo can be selfish but is at the top of his game and unstoppable while anyone can stop amare and he heading towards the bottom of his game.

They will both be here next year and they must work better together if we have a chance at doing anything but Amare has to show that he is still viable and it all starts with that jumper which is quite baffling that its gone.

Amare and Melo have done nothing worth defending as Knicks. It's funny that you two are doing the exact same c*ck-sucking, just with different players.

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6/29/2012  4:38 PM
GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
holfresh wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:Amare has played like crap for 1 1/2 of the 2 years we've had him.

Which coincides with the same amount of time we had a PG who know how to run the pick and roll....

So I think that we can all infer that Amare sux ass unless he is on a team that runs the pick and roll predominately. WONDERFUL! What a pity that he never worked on his arsenal so that he is not so one dimensional.

It would be nice if Amare had a post game/was a better passer out of the post. He's working on that. You could say the same thing about Melo "sucking ass" because he never worked on employing his arsenal unless he gets the ball where he likes, with plenty of time to work, etc.

Both of those guys are going to have to learn how to do things they haven't done in the past if they give a crap about their legacies.

STAT: defending smarter, post game, passing out of the post, limiting turnovers, not punching glass (justkidding)

Melo: Being useful OFF the ball if that's what the team needs, consistent defensive effort, quicker decisions on passing vs shooting vs taking it to the rim vs, needing to jab step and cross over a few times before knowing what he's going to do, not being a fat coach killing locker room cancer (haha jk)

Of course they can both improve and let us not forget about Chandler too who sux offensively and was a no show in the playoffs - he's got a lot of improving himself.

The question is, can they improve? Chandler and Melo I think can since they are still in their Prime though Chandler has had many many years to develop an offensive game and he hasn't but who knows. Melo can definitely do it if he wants to, the question is if he will ala Paul Pierce. I guess much of it will depend on him trusting his teammates and those teammates earning his trust. Amare is in a steady decline and there is not much evidence that he will or can turn it around.

if you want to compete in the playoffs stop with the stupid dump Amare for crap players threads

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