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gunsnewing
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6/25/2012  10:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:you see how quick he left dallas despite playing with his best friend dirk, and having a better shot at a title with dallas then he ever had with the suns at the time

Dallas refused to pay him and paid Erick Dampier instead lol

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6/25/2012  10:48 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:you see how quick he left dallas despite playing with his best friend dirk, and having a better shot at a title with dallas then he ever had with the suns at the time

Dallas refused to pay him and paid Erick Dampier instead lol

Well Eric Dampier is a very Highly Efficient player so I guess it made sense. I never understood why he was not the featured player of many teams being that he is so efficient.

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6/25/2012  10:48 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:you see how quick he left dallas despite playing with his best friend dirk, and having a better shot at a title with dallas then he ever had with the suns at the time

Dallas refused to pay him and paid Erick Dampier instead lol

Mark Cuban all but waked him out the door. One of his Dolan moments, I am sure.

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6/25/2012  11:15 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:you see how quick he left dallas despite playing with his best friend dirk, and having a better shot at a title with dallas then he ever had with the suns at the time

Dallas refused to pay him and paid Erick Dampier instead lol

Well Eric Dampier is a very Highly Efficient player so I guess it made sense. I never understood why he was not the featured player of many teams being that he is so efficient.

The only thing efficient about Dampier was his shampoo and barber costs

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6/25/2012  11:21 PM
I think Nash is right in what he said. He also is still an amazing player. I think it is hard to predict how much longer Nash can play at the level he is playing at now. He credits his diet, as does Grant Hill, as one of the reasons he has been able to maintain his level of play. Some guys are freaks and can keep going at a very high level long after their peers have had to retire. He won't be a Knick but it will be fun to see if how long he can maintain his high level of play.
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6/26/2012  12:30 AM
Nash is smart and content, he just wants to compete. I love the guy, just a great person and player... A close source to him said he didn't like the way the knicks treated dantoni.. I don't blame nash...
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6/26/2012  12:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/26/2012  12:45 AM
callmened wrote:Hes not coming to nyk...ive been trying to say that for weeks now...dont believe the hype....its just the media trying to get us to read their articles

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6/26/2012  12:44 AM
tkf wrote:Nash is smart and content, he just wants to compete. I love the guy, just a great person and player... A close source to him said he didn't like the way the knicks treated dantoni.. I don't blame nash...
I would expect Nash to side with D'Antoni as he is a high character guy and loyal to his friend and former coach. That being said I have posted several times that I don't think Melo was aware that there was a 'rift' between himself and D'Antoni. I think Melo, like the other olympians, saw Mike as a laid back guy that didn't sweat things. I think the reality was that Mike really did sweat things but he also struggled to communicate and take an authoritarian role with some of his players. I remember when D'Antoni first resigned Melo was interviewed after the game and said he was going to text him to see how he was doing. He seemed to genuinely be concerned about Mike and also seemed shocked that he had resigned. Just my take and it might be wrong.
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6/26/2012  1:37 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
tkf wrote:Nash is smart and content, he just wants to compete. I love the guy, just a great person and player... A close source to him said he didn't like the way the knicks treated dantoni.. I don't blame nash...
I would expect Nash to side with D'Antoni as he is a high character guy and loyal to his friend and former coach. That being said I have posted several times that I don't think Melo was aware that there was a 'rift' between himself and D'Antoni. I think Melo, like the other olympians, saw Mike as a laid back guy that didn't sweat things. I think the reality was that Mike really did sweat things but he also struggled to communicate and take an authoritarian role with some of his players. I remember when D'Antoni first resigned Melo was interviewed after the game and said he was going to text him to see how he was doing. He seemed to genuinely be concerned about Mike and also seemed shocked that he had resigned. Just my take and it might be wrong.

I could go on and on about the issues between Melo and MDA. There was a sort of passive aggressive fight going on and if you read thru the statements and actions of the key players on the team you can tell that it was mostly about Melo and MDA. Melo feigns ignorance but he knows what the deal was. As i've posted many times, Melo admitted he wasn't giving his all for MDA. What else are we to understand that to mean?


Amar'e: Players made D'Antoni 'look bad'
FRANK ISOLA
Thursday, March 15, 2012

Amar’e Stoudemire believes that Mike D’Antoni resigned because “everyone wasn’t buying into his system” and that it made the Knicks former head coach “look bad.” The implication, of course, is that D’Antoni resigned on Wednesday because he could no longer work with Carmelo Anthony, who had struggled under D’Antoni since last year’s celebrated trade with the Denver Nuggets. Tyson Chandler, however, defended Anthony, saying that his All-Star teammate had become an easy scapegoat with the Knicks getting off to an 18-24 start. After beating Portland to snap a six-game losing streak Wednesday night, Anthony refused to accept responsibility for D’Antoni abruptly stepping down.

LUPICA: DOLAN - NOT LOGIC - IS KING AT MSG “It didn’t have anything to do with that,” Anthony said. “That was Coach’s decision. I really don’t know where his mind-set was at, what he thought, what he’s thinking as far his decision to step down. Anything about me and Mike he’ll tell you we never had any issues. Any disagreements he had with us as a team we talked about and we went from there.” For several days there were rumblings of unrest in the locker room with some players unhappy with Anthony as well D’Antoni. Before resigning, D’Antoni told reporters that he felt he still had the support of his players. “But you have to ask them that,” he said early Wednesday. “I’m confident. I think they’re great and have been great and we’ll battle through this.”

TIMELINE: D'ANTONI'S TIME RUNS OUT AS KNICKS HEAD COACH Stoudemire, who was an All-Star under D’Antoni in both Phoenix and New York, became less and less of a factor after Anthony was acquired. The Knicks were a dynamic offensive team in the pre-Melo days, but in the 74 games they played since the Anthony trade and with D’Antoni as the coach the Knicks went 32-42. Last week, Anthony admitted that he was struggling to adjust to an offense in which Jeremy Lin, and not he, was the primary ball-handler.

“I know he tried to implement a certain system,” Stoudemire said. “And everyone wasn’t buying into it, so he may have been a little frustrated so he felt stepping down was the best way for him.” When asked if the locker room was divided, Stoudemire said: “It’s never easy. Whenever you’re losing ballgames, frustration sets in. The ultimate cure to anything is to win. And at that point in time we weren’t doing that.”

Stoudemire defended his coach, saying the Knicks' struggles are not D'Antoni's fault. He said it's up to the players to do more and that he's not the only one who would like D'Antoni to remain the Knicks' coach.

"I think we all do," Stoudemire said. "We'd all love to have Mike coach us. We don't want to go through a drastic change midseason like that. We just got to play hard. We've got to give him the best opportunity to coach us and be coachable. We have to be coachable."

Stoudemire said he was unaware of reports that D'Antoni could have been coaching for his job this weekend. He said his only thought Saturday was getting a win. And the Knicks got one, beating the Nets, 99-92, behind backup point guard Jeremy Lin's 25 points and seven assists.

Lin's performance supported what Stoudemire, who also played for D'Antoni with the Suns, has been saying all season.

Stoudemire believes in D'Antoni's system, which is predicated on ball movement, point guard penetration and a heavy dose of pick-and-rolls. But the ball has stuck and there have been more isolations for Carmelo Anthony and Stoudemire because they haven't had a point guard who can break down defenses consistently.

"You can see night in and night out how the system works," Stoudemire said. "If we keep that going, we'll be good."


http://www.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/stoudemire-believes-in-d-antoni-s-system-1.3506863

Stoudemire ripped some of his teammates for not studying the game plan and “reading the board’’ before games. Stoudemire, who mostly has been upbeat, is calculating in what he says to the media and his accusations serve a purpose. Time is running out on D’Antoni.

Chandler said the team has resorted to excuse-making and players have to “man up.’’ It was unclear if Chandler was referring to Carmelo Anthony or Baron Davis, both of whom sat out this weekend due to injuries.

“We all have to look at ourselves and figure what we can do better to help the team,’’ Chandler said. “Everybody’s banged up. It’s times like this you have to dig deep. It’s about the team that wants it more.’’

For now, D’Antoni has a lifeline in Anthony’s sore wrist and Davis’ sore back. The promise of those players’ returns are keeping him employed.

If Davis’ debut was not on the horizon and Anthony was healthy, the Knicks’ 7-13 record and 1-9 stretch in their past 10 games would not have been tolerated and he would have been fired, considering owner James Dolan’s high expectations.

Anthony, who rested his ailments the past two games, including Friday’s showdown with the Heat, was not in the locker room after the Houston loss. He was not on the bench for either game because he was getting treatment, but should be back at practice today and play tomorrow.

Anthony never has appeared to be a big fan of D’Antoni’s speedball offense, which he has mockingly referred to as “D’Antoni’s quote unquote system.’’ After last season, Anthony seemed ambivalent compared to Stoudemire when asked if he wanted D’Antoni back.

D’Antoni and Anthony rarely are seen talking to each other, not nearly as much as D’Antoni talks to Stoudemire, Chandler, Davis and rookie Iman Shumpert.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM#ixzz1ysGnwWbH

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6/26/2012  1:44 AM
And to think, the guy never played defense a day in his life.
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6/26/2012  1:47 AM
Greedy because owners in the league treat players like pawns or call girls? Seems right from me what he's saying. A lot of things to consider.
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6/26/2012  4:48 AM
At least he's being honest- how many players say they might sign with us for the MLE or minimum then it turns out they were only using us to get a fat contract somewhere else? I get why he'd be looking for the most money he can- this will be the last time in his life that he'll make anywhere near this kind of money.
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6/26/2012  5:58 AM
Nash is letting it known that just because he wants a ring doesn't mean that he will just roll over in negotiating a deal. Makes sense.
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6/26/2012  8:00 AM
Nothing Nash said was off.

If the team is not in a chase he does not want to be traded mid season.

Dallas was concerned about his back and did not want to pay him. Nash was drafted by PHX and still had a home there. He should think very fondly of MDA and PHX as he became a HOF star there and they did very well.

Toronto going forward could be much better with health and some changes.

I'd say he wants to start as well he should. We are committed to Lin and that is what we should be doing. I love Nash but I don't think its a fit here mostly because of the Money.

These guys all want to be paid. He wants to win like most do but I would imagine he wants to start.

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6/26/2012  8:12 AM
at least he won't be going to Miami.

We made our bed with Melo, now we live with the consequences.

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6/26/2012  8:59 AM
A guy who earns a living wants to be paid market value and thats greedy? Fans are f-ed up
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6/26/2012  9:48 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:you see how quick he left dallas despite playing with his best friend dirk, and having a better shot at a title with dallas then he ever had with the suns at the time

Dallas refused to pay him and paid Erick Dampier instead lol

Mark Cuban all but waked him out the door. One of his Dolan moments, I am sure.

But then he won it all with Kidd and Barea. Guess he knows something Dolan doesn't.

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6/26/2012  9:54 AM
At least the Knicks can move on. Look don't expect any discounts from any players. This is good why because the last thing the Knicks need is for teams like Miami get discounts to keep a steady supply of capable players on the cheap.
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6/26/2012  10:48 AM
I think NBA championships are over rated for players.

Sure allstar players are defined and the brand value increases but unless a guy is a central figure on the team is it not diluted?

If Nash is not getting starter minutes then is that how he wants it? If your not getting paid starter salary then your suseptable to trade or being benched.

LIkewise, only a team that feels they are knocking on the door of a championship can really afford to pay and take the two year risk he can stay healthy and play at a high level.

If I felt were that close to winning I'd say him over Lin.

But despite the on paper talent I don't think we are and when all is said and done we have to think about our future as well.

We saw what Lin can do in 26 games. I think he can get better. If so, He could be at least on par with 39 year old Nash. If so, we are better with Lin.

Steve Nash is greedy to hell with him

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