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callmened
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6/24/2012  12:50 PM
Folks...lin is NOT going anywhere.lol

This thread is irrelevant

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/24/2012  2:09 PM
AnubisADL wrote:The Knicks were about to dump Lin.

I wouldn't put a sign and trade past the Knicks. It all depends on who we get back in return.

Just curious. Did you miss the last Three months of the season or did you analysis of how the knicks feel about Lin stop at the end of his 1O day contract?

Lin is staying with the Knicks. He has a chance to be a long term good-very good player and his marketing/revenue potential is primo in the short term. From both a business and basketball perspective, the upside potential far outweighs the risk.

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6/24/2012  2:25 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2012  2:26 PM
Just using an example. I should not have put any names in there--but essentially what I was looking at was a high caliber draft pick a god young player at a position of need and shifting Nash right into the starting PG spot. Can we get more for Lin and make some sense to get Nash. I do not think signing Lin and using 5-6mm per on Nash makes sense.
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RonRon
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6/24/2012  2:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2012  2:37 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Just using an example. I should not have put any names in there--but essentially what I was looking at was a high caliber draft pick a god young player at a position of need and shifting Nash right into the starting PG spot. Can we get more for Lin and make some sense to get Nash. I do not think signing Lin and using 5-6mm per on Nash makes sense.

I have been saying this, all along. Why spend the last MLE we can use on a player that plays the same position as Lin, yet cannot even coexist with Lin on the floor together.
We would not be able to play both of them together, at least not during the playoffs because they would both DESTROYED defensively.
For all of the people that wants to sign Nash it just doesn't make much sense, if you get Nash, you might as well finish it off with a trade that would give him the starting role.
It isn't cost efficient with 10m per year for 2 players in Lin and Nash, adding to our expense of ATM.

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6/24/2012  4:32 PM
Thank you ronron...lin and nash cannot and will not co exist
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/24/2012  4:48 PM
callmened wrote:Thank you ronron...lin and nash cannot and will not co exist

It is very understandable why many fans here want to add Nash, regardless of his age though.
He has been doubted and questioned for his age the past 4 years, yet he hasn't showed much signs of slowing down.
It is undeniable that he is an extra coach, he is still one the best ASSIST/TO ratio as one of the best PGS in the league today, and he can teach players, the team, to play the right way, if they were willing to listen. He is still one of the best shooters in the league, yet plays very unselfish, looking to create better looks/shots for the team.
So they are right from that POV, but we cannot play Lin and Nash together for defensive reasons. So Briggs makes a great point for all the people here that want Nash.

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6/24/2012  4:53 PM
RonRon wrote:
callmened wrote:Thank you ronron...lin and nash cannot and will not co exist

It is very understandable why many fans here want to add Nash, regardless of his age though.
He has been doubted and questioned for his age the past 4 years, yet he hasn't showed much signs of slowing down.
It is undeniable that he is an extra coach, he is still one the best ASSIST/TO ratio as one of the best PGS in the league today, and he can teach players, the team, to play the right way, if they were willing to listen. He is still one of the best shooters in the league, yet plays very unselfish, looking to create better looks/shots for the team.
So they are right from that POV, but we cannot play Lin and Nash together for defensive reasons. So Briggs makes a great point for all the people here that want Nash.

Right in this salary cap era--money going out has to be allocated smartly. You can't pay a backup 5mm over multiple years with three max players UNLESS its a 30 minute a night 6th man who is a core player

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6/24/2012  5:07 PM
Lin is not getting traded unless it's for someone in top 10 jersey sales. Let's talk about realistic options and let's let Lin develop here. We caught lightning in a bottle with Lin. Maybe he is a star, maybe he isn't... but if he is a star, Lin exploding into stardom here would be far more special.
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6/24/2012  5:09 PM
Solace wrote:Lin is not getting traded unless it's for someone in top 10 jersey sales. Let's talk about realistic options and let's let Lin develop here. We caught lightning in a bottle with Lin. Maybe he is a star, maybe he isn't... but if he is a star, Lin exploding into stardom here would be far more special.
we dont need him to be a star. We just need him to be good and im pretty sure tthat will be the case. I mean i have followed this kid ever since he lit up John Wall. We got extremely lucky but we dont need him to be a megastar we just need to be a good pg
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6/24/2012  5:12 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
Solace wrote:Lin is not getting traded unless it's for someone in top 10 jersey sales. Let's talk about realistic options and let's let Lin develop here. We caught lightning in a bottle with Lin. Maybe he is a star, maybe he isn't... but if he is a star, Lin exploding into stardom here would be far more special.
we dont need him to be a star. We just need him to be good and im pretty sure tthat will be the case. I mean i have followed this kid ever since he lit up John Wall. We got extremely lucky but we dont need him to be a megastar we just need to be a good pg

Oh, I agree. I assume this kind of thread is about maxing out Lin's value while it's peaked because Lin might not be worth as much in a year. We need good team play, Melo to step up as the leader and ball movement. I think we're actually fine on defense. Just need an offensive flow.

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6/24/2012  5:13 PM
Solace wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
Solace wrote:Lin is not getting traded unless it's for someone in top 10 jersey sales. Let's talk about realistic options and let's let Lin develop here. We caught lightning in a bottle with Lin. Maybe he is a star, maybe he isn't... but if he is a star, Lin exploding into stardom here would be far more special.
we dont need him to be a star. We just need him to be good and im pretty sure tthat will be the case. I mean i have followed this kid ever since he lit up John Wall. We got extremely lucky but we dont need him to be a megastar we just need to be a good pg

Oh, I agree. I assume this kind of thread is about maxing out Lin's value while it's peaked because Lin might not be worth as much in a year. We need good team play, Melo to step up as the leader and ball movement. I think we're actually fine on defense. Just need an offensive flow.

I agree with everything you said
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6/24/2012  6:41 PM
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us
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6/24/2012  6:44 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us
lin is not making that much
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6/24/2012  6:54 PM
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us

that is still peanuts considering what Amare and Melo making.
They are the ones that are truly crippling us.
Even if Lin, signed for 10m for years 3 and 4, he can generate much more.
Many GM's wouldn't over pay but Dolan doesn't care if he can make it back up.
You are talking about the owner promoting, over 100m in payroll when we were a lotto team during the Isiah's years.
How many times did we use our expiring deals from Penny, Francis, Jalen Rose, and etc to be the savior of our franchise?

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6/24/2012  6:55 PM
RonRon wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us

that is still peanuts considering what Amare and Melo making.
They are the ones that are truly crippling us.
Even if Lin, signed for 10m for years 3 and 4, he can generate much more.
Many GM's wouldn't over pay but Dolan doesn't care if he can make it back up.
You are talking about the owner promoting, over 100m in payroll when we were a lotto team during the Isiah's years.
How many times did we use our expiring deals from Penny, Francis, Jalen Rose, and etc to be the savior of our franchise?

I agree Ron Ron Amare and melo are making over 20 million and lets face it so far it hasnt exactly been earned lol
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6/24/2012  6:59 PM
IrishKnickFan wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us
lin is not making that much

Melo was not worth the flexibility, cap space, multiple picks, and players we gave up to acquire him but Dolan was more than happy to over pay for him.
New Jersey can offer that Lin, knowing very well that Dolan will not let him go.
Now will Lin put Dolan in that position, cashing in right now, before we can fully determine is he is worth it on a talent level?
On a business, POV, I cannot see why he would not be worth it from the glimpse we had during the Linsanity run.

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6/24/2012  7:02 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/24/2012  7:04 PM
RonRon wrote:
IrishKnickFan wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i'm not above trading Lin. would have to be a really good package though. and we'd need to make sure to get a PG out of it.

i'm bracing for his new agents to ask for 4yr $36M (which i believe is the max he can ask for - two years at $5M and then years 3 and 4 around $10M). i like Lin, A LOT, but not sure he is worth what his agents will ask.


No 1 is giving Lin that deal. If the Knicks do it he will cripple us
lin is not making that much

Melo was not worth the flexibility, cap space, multiple picks, and players we gave up to acquire him but Dolan was more than happy to over pay for him.
New Jersey can offer that Lin, knowing very well that Dolan will not let him go.
Now will Lin put Dolan in that position, cashing in right now, before we can fully determine is he is worth it on a talent level?
On a business, POV, I cannot see why he would not be worth it from the glimpse we had during the Linsanity run.

I know Ron Ron tahst why Dolan left because he knew like we know that it was the wrong move at the time. Dolan is a dumb owener. Its funny he leaves the rangers alone and now they have develoiped into a young tem on the rise like OKC but he keeps ****ing up the knicks
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6/24/2012  7:51 PM
callmened wrote:Folks...lin is NOT going anywhere.lol

This thread is irrelevant

Dude everyone is tradeable.

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