Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:I'm sure Phil wouldn't say no to OKC.

Contender..... Check.

Top player in the game..... Check.

That just shows that he's smart. If you were him, why on earth would you pick the Knicks over OKC?

Does anyone really have to be smart to make that decision?

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

knickscity wrote:I'm sure Phil wouldn't say no to OKC.

Contender..... Check.

Top player in the game..... Check.

That just shows that he's smart. If you were him, why on earth would you pick the Knicks over OKC?

Does anyone really have to be smart to make that decision?

Well then what was the point of your previous post?

That doesn't make him "smart", it makes him "obvious".

Our guys are big names and don't fit.

That does not mean they can't change or fix it.

I am not a huge fan of Phil but I respect his achievements and believe he would probably turn things around here if he was given the control he would require. Dolan would never allow it (thus why no call was made) and Phil knows that (see comments in the article).

Could he have made Melo and amare work? Who knows. I think the bigger issue is how to turn this organization around not only in terms of basketball but politics and class. As long as Dolan owns the Knicks, it's clear that we will have issues.

The way Donnie and MDA were handled was embarrassing. I see no reason a HOF coach would want to come here. I do think getting Phil would have been the equivalent of when Riley came. Say what you want about Pat but he is a winner - this franchise hung itself when they didn't give him what he wanted, and now we are missing out again because of our ownership.

I love the Knicks, I will follow them regardless, but it is really disappointing that we can't get it together and give control over to people who actually know what they are doing.

I wish Woodson luck but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work out.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

OasisBU wrote:I think the truth is Phil might be sour that he didn't even get a call, but the organization is stupid for not trying to get him.

I am not a huge fan of Phil but I respect his achievements and believe he would probably turn things around here if he was given the control he would require. Dolan would never allow it (thus why no call was made) and Phil knows that (see comments in the article).

Could he have made Melo and amare work? Who knows. I think the bigger issue is how to turn this organization around not only in terms of basketball but politics and class. As long as Dolan owns the Knicks, it's clear that we will have issues.

The way Donnie and MDA were handled was embarrassing. I see no reason a HOF coach would want to come here. I do think getting Phil would have been the equivalent of when Riley came. Say what you want about Pat but he is a winner - this franchise hung itself when they didn't give him what he wanted, and now we are missing out again because of our ownership.

I love the Knicks, I will follow them regardless, but it is really disappointing that we can't get it together and give control over to people who actually know what they are doing.

I wish Woodson luck but I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work out.

I like woodson and i llike the pieces we have like tyson shump novak and lin. The problem is our two stars. Both are great scorers but they dont have a great overall game which your stars need to have if you want to win. Guys like lebron.kobe,pierce,garnett,durant have that which is why they've been to the dance in the recent years. Melo is the big key and i dont blame him for anything but he definetly has to up his game next year. He needs to start moving without the ball and try to get others involved and if that happenes we will be ok i feel

That's a pretty big if. I think Melo is capable and has shown he can improve. He has also shown he has also shown that he will revert to ISO at any moment.

Regardless, I don't think we can win a championship with this roster. We will make the playoffs but we will not beat the elites. I hope I am wrong.

OasisBU wrote:

There have been rumors that Phil Jackson would be hired to coach the Knicks before the team made Mike Woodson his permanent coach last month, but man who led the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers to 11 NBA titles says he wasn't interested in taking the helm of Jim Dolan's "clumsy" club.

In an "HBO Real Sports" interview that premieres on Tuesday, Jackson tells correspondent Andrea Kremer that Dolan never called - and he was glad.

"I wasn't gonna take that job, that's for sure," said Jackson, who played with the Knicks from 1967 to 1978.

Jackson suggests he has given a good deal of thought to coaching the Knicks - "New York is special," he says - but he dismissed the possibility of returning to Madison Square Garden because the current team is "clumsy."

"What's clumsy mean?" Kremer asked.

"Well, they don't fit together well. (Amare) Stoudemire doesn't fit well with Carmelo. Stoudemire's a really good player. But he's gotta play in a certain system and a way.

"Carmelo has to be a better passer. And the ball can't stop every time it hits his hands," Jackson continued. "They need to have someone come in that can kinda blend that group together."

"But wouldn't you have been the perfect person to come in and blend all that talent together?" Kremer said. "You sort of have a good history of that."

"Yeah," Jackson agreed. "Well, it never happened."

Jackson retired from coaching last year after the Dallas Mavericks, the eventual NBA champs, swept his Lakers were swept in a playoff series Several of his players acted boorishly in the Lakers' final game of that season. Center Andrew Bynum clothes-lined the Mavs' JJ Berea.

"It was humbling," Jackson told Kremer. "Not the way I wanna see my players behave on the court. Andrew particularly took his jersey off and walked off the court in a way that was, you know, sense of arrogance. The game itself was bad enough as it went. So it-- it was kinda like-- so this is how it's gonna end, huh? This is an interesting closure to chapter of basketball."

Jackson is recuperating from knee replacement surgery he had in March, and people close to him have said his improved health has got him thinking about returning to coaching.

Jackson acknowledges that he no longer suffers from arthritic pain, but he declined to comment about returning to the NBA.

"No, I'm not gonna answer that," he told Kremer. "I don't have an answer for that question."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/phil-jackson-tells-hbo-ny-knicks-clumsy-carmelo-anthony-amar-e-stoudemire-fit-article-1.1096639#ixzz1xubmWym6

Sour grapes over not getting the call or telling it like it is?

doesn't matter if he is bitter or not... he is telling the truth... that is what counts..

gunsnewing wrote:Knicks should bring in Phil, Lebron, Durant, Dwight, Kobe & Nash I think

LOL!

This is the expectation!

Knicks are not an epic failure. They are "clumsy"! Great analogy.

I don't think we are trying to build a championship quality team.

A "winner" is one that makes the playoffs, had celebs frequent the arena, makes money and keeps fans engaged.

Building a winner requires patience and courage to perhaps fail in doing so. Knick fans come to expect too much and maybe MSG is correct to not take chances.