Knixkik wrote:We just need to focus on developing Lin and drafting a decent backup PG with our 2nd round pick. We can definitely find a player capable of playing 15 quality minutes a game off the bench. Jardine or Machado are both good possibilities.

I'd rather go with a Mike James type than go into the season relying on Jardine or Machado as backups. No offense to either one, but that is asking a lot from a rookie.

Knixkik wrote:We just need to focus on developing Lin and drafting a decent backup PG with our 2nd round pick. We can definitely find a player capable of playing 15 quality minutes a game off the bench. Jardine or Machado are both good possibilities.

I am so sick and tired of this organization and its fascination with "developing" players. We will never bring another chip here.

Lin is that player who is capable of playing 15 quality minutes a game off the bench. Let's find a damn noteworthy starting point guard, preferably one with years of playoff experience.

ATrain wrote:

Knixkik wrote:We just need to focus on developing Lin and drafting a decent backup PG with our 2nd round pick. We can definitely find a player capable of playing 15 quality minutes a game off the bench. Jardine or Machado are both good possibilities.

I am so sick and tired of this organization and its fascination with "developing" players. We will never bring another chip here.

Lin is that player who is capable of playing 15 quality minutes a game off the bench. Let's find a damn noteworthy starting point guard, preferably one with years of playoff experience.

Never seen a "15 minute per game" player do what Lin has done this past season. I don't believe in rebuilding, but why not try to develop good players like the Spurs have? I'm talking about finding gems in the 2nd round that fit a role. Not sure why you aren't a fan of it.

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martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:someone called me crazy for saying Lin might not be back. So clearly you are absurd!

If we don't get bird rights for Lin- I think there is a very plausible scenario where the Knicks don't bring Lin back, and go a different direction.

I didn't watch Felton last year at all- but when he was here, he was more than adequate.

Are those 18 games for Felton from this season?

not gonna happen, or at least there is a 99.9% chance it won't happen. Lin just earns the Knicks too much money. And/or he is a trade asset. He just doesn't walk away.

And I thought there was a 99.9% chance that the knicks would at least call Phil Jackson to see if his hip was good enough for 2 years of trying to turn Melo into a champion.

The jersey sales and Chinese TV money are compelling, and understand, I want Lin back.

But, I can see a confluence of events where Dolan's win now mantra, the $74M 'cap', Woodson's preference for a different pg and a back loaded cap killing contract offer to Lin could lead us to go a different direction.

I guess I don't understand where the notion that Woodson prefers a different type of PG comes from. Please explain.

When Woody took over Lin was a big part of the 6-game win streak. No reduction in playing time realistically. About the same minutes until Lin went down with injury.

How does that indicate to you that Woody wants no part of Lin? Am I missing some memo that everyone else got?

I should have written Woodsons's possible preference for a different pg. I think I've read that he might prefer a veteran PG.

at this point, its all supposition. I'm just saying I could see how we would not bring him back.

GustavBahler wrote:Felton couldn't run the P&R with Stat the last time, what makes anyone think that he can do it now? He put up some nice numbers, not nice enough to forget that he called his own number too much and his decision making was too often questionable.

Andre Miller would be a nice fit but he said wants to stay in Denver. He says he wants to go to a contender but wouldn't mind being the backup PG in Denver which is weird considering they won't be contending for a few years, if ever. Maybe the Knicks can convince him otherwise.

loweyecue wrote:Some people on this board will stop at nothing to get rid of Lin, I think it is rooted in their fear that Lin has the goods to steal the spotlight away from their beloved "superstar". Dumb thread, Lin is staying get over it.

Felton was playing in a ball movement offense similar to MDA style, Lin was playing under Woody who could care less about ball movement and who's offense consists of dumping the ball to Melo. Great comparison based on 18 games.

Wanting Felton to come in doesn't mean anyone dislikes Lin...It means we don't want the Knicks to have zero options if Lin gets hurt or doesn't produce or isn't effective...Wanting another PG after last year's debacle at the position proves you have the best interest of the team at heart....

If management thinks he is the player they saw during Linsanity, you bring him back at whatever the cost.

If management thinks that was a flash in the pan and his is damaged goods you let him walk.

My opinion is the flash was bright enough to invest in him. We have surely done worse investments.

LOL @ the fat photo of Felton. I like Felton, his intensity and pride while playing here was great, but he does have an issue with his weight. No run and gun offense could mean a fatter Felton all year. That said, of he wanted to come back, I would welcome him. Maybe STAT can convince him the Knicks are poised to do big things and he is the last piece of the puzzle. Some lie along those lines.

holfresh wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Some people on this board will stop at nothing to get rid of Lin, I think it is rooted in their fear that Lin has the goods to steal the spotlight away from their beloved "superstar". Dumb thread, Lin is staying get over it.

Felton was playing in a ball movement offense similar to MDA style, Lin was playing under Woody who could care less about ball movement and who's offense consists of dumping the ball to Melo. Great comparison based on 18 games.

Wanting Felton to come in doesn't mean anyone dislikes Lin...It means we don't want the Knicks to have zero options if Lin gets hurt or doesn't produce or isn't effective...Wanting another PG after last year's debacle at the position proves you have the best interest of the team at heart....

The way the post was laid out it made it clear the intent was to get Felton and NOT get Lin to save money. I have no issues with getting another PG, but I am amazed by how easily people have given up on Lin. The real reason is these are the types of people who would rather just ignore him since he doesn't fit their stupid stereotype. Woodson has not even said he wants Lin to start, this cannot possibly have anything to do with basketball skills.

loweyecue wrote:

holfresh wrote:

loweyecue wrote:Some people on this board will stop at nothing to get rid of Lin, I think it is rooted in their fear that Lin has the goods to steal the spotlight away from their beloved "superstar". Dumb thread, Lin is staying get over it.

Felton was playing in a ball movement offense similar to MDA style, Lin was playing under Woody who could care less about ball movement and who's offense consists of dumping the ball to Melo. Great comparison based on 18 games.

Wanting Felton to come in doesn't mean anyone dislikes Lin...It means we don't want the Knicks to have zero options if Lin gets hurt or doesn't produce or isn't effective...Wanting another PG after last year's debacle at the position proves you have the best interest of the team at heart....

The way the post was laid out it made it clear the intent was to get Felton and NOT get Lin to save money. I have no issues with getting another PG, but I am amazed by how easily people have given up on Lin. The real reason is these are the types of people who would rather just ignore him since he doesn't fit their stupid stereotype. Woodson has not even said he wants Lin to start, this cannot possibly have anything to do with basketball skills.