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The Nuggets traded Melo to the New York Knicks tonight, a league source said. Denver gets Wilson Chandler, Raymond Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Timofey Mozgov, the Knicks 2014 first-round draft pick, the Warriors' 2012 second-round pick, the Warriors' 2013 second-round pick and $3 million in cash.

Anthony will go to New York, along with Chauncey Billups, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter and Renaldo Balkman.

Pre-MELO: PG: Felton, Lin//SG: Shump, Fields//SF: Gallo, Novak//PF:STAT, Wilson Chandler//C: Tyson Chandler, Harrellson. COACH: MDA
Post-MELO: PG: Lin//SG: Shump//SF: Melo, Fields//PF:STAT, Harrellson//C: Tyson Chandler COACH: Mike Woodson
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Bonn1997
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5/11/2012  3:11 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Why are we having revisionist history?

Melo was going to go to NJ and collect his extension. There wasn't an option to wait until summer to sign Melo.

Anthony acknowledged for the first time he was ready to sign off on a Nets’ deal if the Nuggets decided they liked New Jersey’s trade offer better. Anthony is visiting the Nets in Newark for the first time since the Feb. 22 trade.

“When I was going through the whole situation, there was a time I really thought I’d end up in Jersey,’’ Anthony said. “I thought it was going to happen, but it didn’t. Now I’m here. No regrets. ‘’


Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/amar_to_rest_sprained_ankle_will_ftvbQAxxM98ZaNySyqtE7H


Fine. If he didn't value the Knicks enough to wait to sign as an FA, then I'd wish him the luck he'd need on a team where he'd have to share the ball with Deron.
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Bonn1997
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5/11/2012  3:11 PM
gunsnewing wrote:Its easier to ignore the facts when dealing in hindsight

For many, this is not hindsight.
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5/11/2012  3:15 PM
Too many things would have happend and we would have perhaps Dwight, Deron or CP3 instead of Melo.

So one can't compare the two options.

Melo in Brooklyn and the nets have to deal with StarMelo.

Denver helps themselves with other moves not directly involved with "the trade".

Only one bottom line here is results.

Lakers went into playoffs as a very hot team. They are not miami, but all we know is Denver had a better season.

The future will sort itself out.

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5/11/2012  3:16 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Why are we having revisionist history?

Melo was going to go to NJ and collect his extension. There wasn't an option to wait until summer to sign Melo.

Anthony acknowledged for the first time he was ready to sign off on a Nets’ deal if the Nuggets decided they liked New Jersey’s trade offer better. Anthony is visiting the Nets in Newark for the first time since the Feb. 22 trade.

“When I was going through the whole situation, there was a time I really thought I’d end up in Jersey,’’ Anthony said. “I thought it was going to happen, but it didn’t. Now I’m here. No regrets. ‘’


Source: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/knicksblog/amar_to_rest_sprained_ankle_will_ftvbQAxxM98ZaNySyqtE7H


Fine. If he didn't value the Knicks enough to wait to sign as an FA, then I'd wish him the luck he'd need on a team where he'd have to share the ball with Deron.

Deron Williams is a ball hog now?

Deron Williams already stated he had to pick up his scoring in NJ for his team to win. Something he said he wasn't used to doing.

Deron Williams is a proven winner.

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5/11/2012  3:19 PM
Nalod wrote:Too many things would have happend and we would have perhaps Dwight, Deron or CP3 instead of Melo.

So one can't compare the two options.

Melo in Brooklyn and the nets have to deal with StarMelo.

Denver helps themselves with other moves not directly involved with "the trade".

Only one bottom line here is results.

Lakers went into playoffs as a very hot team. They are not miami, but all we know is Denver had a better season.

The future will sort itself out.

Denver had a better season than Denver of previous years or better than the knicks?

Denver had their lowest winning pct in 5 years.

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5/11/2012  3:24 PM
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5/11/2012  3:45 PM
Trades done, dumb thread.
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5/11/2012  7:01 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:Too many things would have happend and we would have perhaps Dwight, Deron or CP3 instead of Melo.

So one can't compare the two options.

Melo in Brooklyn and the nets have to deal with StarMelo.

Denver helps themselves with other moves not directly involved with "the trade".

Only one bottom line here is results.

Lakers went into playoffs as a very hot team. They are not miami, but all we know is Denver had a better season.

The future will sort itself out.

Denver had a better season than Denver of previous years or better than the knicks?

Denver had their lowest winning pct in 5 years.


Let me make it clear for those who dont understand Denver was a better team with Melo
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5/11/2012  7:36 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Nalod wrote:Too many things would have happend and we would have perhaps Dwight, Deron or CP3 instead of Melo.

So one can't compare the two options.

Melo in Brooklyn and the nets have to deal with StarMelo.

Denver helps themselves with other moves not directly involved with "the trade".

Only one bottom line here is results.

Lakers went into playoffs as a very hot team. They are not miami, but all we know is Denver had a better season.

The future will sort itself out.

Denver had a better season than Denver of previous years or better than the knicks?

Denver had their lowest winning pct in 5 years.


Let me make it clear for those who dont understand Denver was a better team with Melo

The Nuggets did get better immediately after Melo left compared to how they were playing with him that year. It's only when you go back multiple years that your comment has any validity.
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5/11/2012  7:45 PM
I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.
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5/11/2012  7:47 PM
yeah, agree with crush. the idea that the knicks would have tyson chandler and jeremy lin if they didn't make the melo deal is probably wrong.
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5/11/2012  7:52 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

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5/11/2012  11:28 PM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

Denver is not better team without Melo.
It is more interesting team.
Interesting to watch and intriguing at what they can achieve.
Also they have a lot of flexibility to change things if something will not work out.
Melo teams are boring and predictable on the court and their future is set by Melo max contract and inability to change his game.

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5/11/2012  11:37 PM
Watching the playoffs and wishing there was a choice where ZBo was still a Knick.
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5/12/2012  12:51 AM
arkrud wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

Denver is not better team without Melo.
It is more interesting team.
Interesting to watch and intriguing at what they can achieve.
Also they have a lot of flexibility to change things if something will not work out.
Melo teams are boring and predictable on the court and their future is set by Melo max contract and inability to change his game.

denver is better without melo. they have lasted longer in the playoffs two years in a row with their "team" as opposed to the knicks one man show.

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5/12/2012  12:51 AM
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5/12/2012  12:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/12/2012  12:58 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

DO THE MATH! people forget we had eddy curry's expiring contract coming off the books. there would've been room to get tyson:

salary cap this year was at $50 million.

current knicks:
amare stoudemire - $18.2 million
landry -- 790k
toney D -- $1.1 mil

former knicks:
felton -- $7.5 million
gallo -- $4.19 million
mozgov -- $2.56 million

that total is $34 million.

tyson chandler's salary this year was $13 million. he would have fit.

also, we could have renounced wil chandler but i am pretty sure we could have signed him to the same extension denver did (kicks in next year) and had room to sign tyson. we could have also used the amnesty on toney douglas to clear the room to get chandler, similar to what we did with billups.

lin could've been signed to backup felton. we would have still been thin at point guard with only felton, and lin was signed initially to be potentially the 3rd string.

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5/12/2012  1:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/12/2012  1:21 AM
BigSm00th wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

DO THE MATH! people forget we had eddy curry's expiring contract coming off the books. there would've been room to get tyson:

salary cap this year was at $50 million.

current knicks:
amare stoudemire - $18.2 million
landry -- 790k
toney D -- $1.1 mil

former knicks:
felton -- $7.5 million
gallo -- $4.19 million
mozgov -- $2.56 million

that total is $34 million.

tyson chandler's salary this year was $13 million. he would have fit.

also, we could have renounced wil chandler but i am pretty sure we could have signed him to the same extension denver did (kicks in next year) and had room to sign tyson. we could have also used the amnesty on toney douglas to clear the room to get chandler, similar to what we did with billups.

lin could've been signed to backup felton. we would have still been thin at point guard with only felton, and lin was signed initially to be potentially the 3rd string.


Tyson came to play with Melo and Amare not AMare. He was very close to signing with Golden State. I don't think Tyson is in NY without Melo. Also, I don't think the Knicks bring in Lin or minimally do not commit to him when he isn't playing.
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5/12/2012  9:27 AM
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

Yeah i didn't realize Lin and Chandler were part of the pre-melo team either. How did we miss them???

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5/12/2012  9:28 AM
CrushAlot wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am wondering about option one because I don't see the Knicks getting Chandler or Lin if option one was the team.

Desperate attempt of rigging a poll to sway the results in favor of the inaccurate truth that somehow Denver is a better team without Melo

DO THE MATH! people forget we had eddy curry's expiring contract coming off the books. there would've been room to get tyson:

salary cap this year was at $50 million.

current knicks:
amare stoudemire - $18.2 million
landry -- 790k
toney D -- $1.1 mil

former knicks:
felton -- $7.5 million
gallo -- $4.19 million
mozgov -- $2.56 million

that total is $34 million.

tyson chandler's salary this year was $13 million. he would have fit.

also, we could have renounced wil chandler but i am pretty sure we could have signed him to the same extension denver did (kicks in next year) and had room to sign tyson. we could have also used the amnesty on toney douglas to clear the room to get chandler, similar to what we did with billups.

lin could've been signed to backup felton. we would have still been thin at point guard with only felton, and lin was signed initially to be potentially the 3rd string.


Tyson came to play with Melo and Amare not AMare. He was very close to signing with Golden State. I don't think Tyson is in NY without Melo. Also, I don't think the Knicks bring in Lin or minimally do not commit to him when he isn't playing.

This is exactly right. Can't look at just numbers and assume Chandler would still be here. That's like saying if we had max space this summer it's a guarantee that we would get Deron Williams.

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