Arbitrator Kenneth Dam’s recent decision to side with the NBAPA against the NBA in declining to reset the bird rights clock for players claimed off waivers was a coup for the Knicks. If it stands on appeal, the Knicks will be able to match any offer for Jeremy Lin, and likely Steve Novak too, while potentially still retaining the ability to use their full midlevel exception of $5,000,000 per season.

If the Knicks do use their full midlevel exception, the strictures of the new collective bargaining agreement will impose a hard cap at $74,000,000, which the team could not exceed this season under any circumstance. Alternatively, the Knicks can offer the “mini-midlevel” of $3,000,000, and exceed the salary cap to sign veteran minimum players, if necessary. Keep in mind that teams are required to have 12 players on their active roster, and 1 on their inactive roster.

With some help today from @JADubin5, @JonKnicksFan, and, previously, @bnr1986 and @sbs0311, I’ve fleshed out a couple of scenarios for your consideration:

Both of these scenarios contain a few assumptions, and here they are:

* Under scenario 2 there is no way the Knicks can keep Landry Fields because the minimum contract amount for 2 year veterans will not fit under the hard-cap. Instead the Knicks would have to fill their roster with undrafted rookies.

**This scenario assumes that J.R. Smith opts out and the Knicks do not bring him back. It also assumes that the Knicks find a team willing to take Toney Douglas (and probably cash) in return for a trade exception. Both of these assumptions are dicey but without them, it’s pretty much impossible for the Knicks to be able to utilize the full MLE.

***The salary figures for Carmelo Anthony (and the rest of the roster) come from Sham Sports. But it’s worth noting that HoopsHype lists Carmelo’s contract at about a $1,000,000 less than Sham Sports does.

http://www.knicksfan.net/?p=5090&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-knicks-options-this-off-season

JohnStarksFan wrote:

callmened wrote:my (realistic) summer xmas wish list

1. odom (LLE)
2. felton (MLE)
3. Camby vet mini
4. everyone else including JR returns

lin/felton
fields/JR/ (shump)
melo/novak
stat/odom
tyson/camby

This is pretty realistic, but I still don't like it much. Felton can probably command more than the MLE, and he was given a raw deal by NY. Best scenario: Kidd even though he's up there in age. Second best realistic back up from field that's available is Delonte West. He's chippy, has swagger to fit the club, also has a connection with T. Chandler, and plays great defense on opposing PG's.
I'm starting to feel like it's inevitable that odom will be here for vet minimum. And Camby? No. Don't like it.

With this in place, we would still have the MLE, and I would give the $$ to Danny Green/Brandon Rush

Adding West/Green or West/Rush boosts our defense in the backcourt and adds perimeter shooting, especially from the 2 guard spot.
11-12 Season 3PT%
Green: .436
Rush: .456

Now we would still have $$ to spend. I would let JR roam free... keep Fields to use as combo 2/3 - mostly 3 backup for Melo in small lineup. (If you didn't know, lots of coaches are using a small lineup)
Then sign a big man with the money. Hickson if available. Then feel out K-Mart. Then if those don't happen, throw less $$ at Earl Clark or Ryan Hollins. Clark is a realistic pickup since he's already said he's roaming the market.

Lin/WEST
D. GREEN/Fields (Shump's spot)
Melo/Novak
Stat/ODOM
Chandler/CLARK

DRAFT: Order of players I would draft
1. Kim English
2. Tony Mitchell (Alabama)
3. Darius Johnson-Odom
4. Quincy Acy
5. Evan Fournier (Future)

Gtetting Danny Green, now you're talking. Let's actually build a team around Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler, and Lin with the right role players. Shooters and defenders. Green is a great pickup, i might prefer his teammate Gary Neal tho with this ability to shoot and play PG in spot minutes. He fit great alongside and behind Parker, so Lin should be similar. Sign him to most of the midlevel, Camby to the LLE, and draft BPE at 48, someone like William Buford who has a great chance to be a quality role player.

C Chandler/Camby/Harrellson
PF Stoudemire/Novak
SF Anthony/Fields
SG Neal/Smith/Buford
PG Lin/Bibby

Neal of course would slide to PG when Lin is out.

callmened wrote:We need odom...but im a fan of camby and green...neal looked awful in playoffs

RonRon wrote:The Knicks’ Salary Situation This Off-Season
Jun 24th, 2012 by Dan L.

Arbitrator Kenneth Dam’s recent decision to side with the NBAPA against the NBA in declining to reset the bird rights clock for players claimed off waivers was a coup for the Knicks. If it stands on appeal, the Knicks will be able to match any offer for Jeremy Lin, and likely Steve Novak too, while potentially still retaining the ability to use their full midlevel exception of $5,000,000 per season.

If the Knicks do use their full midlevel exception, the strictures of the new collective bargaining agreement will impose a hard cap at $74,000,000, which the team could not exceed this season under any circumstance. Alternatively, the Knicks can offer the “mini-midlevel” of $3,000,000, and exceed the salary cap to sign veteran minimum players, if necessary. Keep in mind that teams are required to have 12 players on their active roster, and 1 on their inactive roster.

With some help today from @JADubin5, @JonKnicksFan, and, previously, @bnr1986 and @sbs0311, I’ve fleshed out a couple of scenarios for your consideration:

Both of these scenarios contain a few assumptions, and here they are:

* Under scenario 2 there is no way the Knicks can keep Landry Fields because the minimum contract amount for 2 year veterans will not fit under the hard-cap. Instead the Knicks would have to fill their roster with undrafted rookies.

**This scenario assumes that J.R. Smith opts out and the Knicks do not bring him back. It also assumes that the Knicks find a team willing to take Toney Douglas (and probably cash) in return for a trade exception. Both of these assumptions are dicey but without them, it’s pretty much impossible for the Knicks to be able to utilize the full MLE.

***The salary figures for Carmelo Anthony (and the rest of the roster) come from Sham Sports. But it’s worth noting that HoopsHype lists Carmelo’s contract at about a $1,000,000 less than Sham Sports does.

http://www.knicksfan.net/?p=5090&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-knicks-options-this-off-season

This article assumes that we will offer Novak 3m, which I think is a little too much that we can afford.
But it shows why we might not have the MLE and LLE, and must let some players go because we cannot afford them on our roster.

IrishKnickFan wrote:

RonRon wrote:

RonRon wrote:The Knicks’ Salary Situation This Off-Season
Jun 24th, 2012 by Dan L.

Arbitrator Kenneth Dam’s recent decision to side with the NBAPA against the NBA in declining to reset the bird rights clock for players claimed off waivers was a coup for the Knicks. If it stands on appeal, the Knicks will be able to match any offer for Jeremy Lin, and likely Steve Novak too, while potentially still retaining the ability to use their full midlevel exception of $5,000,000 per season.

If the Knicks do use their full midlevel exception, the strictures of the new collective bargaining agreement will impose a hard cap at $74,000,000, which the team could not exceed this season under any circumstance. Alternatively, the Knicks can offer the “mini-midlevel” of $3,000,000, and exceed the salary cap to sign veteran minimum players, if necessary. Keep in mind that teams are required to have 12 players on their active roster, and 1 on their inactive roster.

With some help today from @JADubin5, @JonKnicksFan, and, previously, @bnr1986 and @sbs0311, I’ve fleshed out a couple of scenarios for your consideration:

Both of these scenarios contain a few assumptions, and here they are:

* Under scenario 2 there is no way the Knicks can keep Landry Fields because the minimum contract amount for 2 year veterans will not fit under the hard-cap. Instead the Knicks would have to fill their roster with undrafted rookies.

**This scenario assumes that J.R. Smith opts out and the Knicks do not bring him back. It also assumes that the Knicks find a team willing to take Toney Douglas (and probably cash) in return for a trade exception. Both of these assumptions are dicey but without them, it’s pretty much impossible for the Knicks to be able to utilize the full MLE.

***The salary figures for Carmelo Anthony (and the rest of the roster) come from Sham Sports. But it’s worth noting that HoopsHype lists Carmelo’s contract at about a $1,000,000 less than Sham Sports does.

http://www.knicksfan.net/?p=5090&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-knicks-options-this-off-season

This article assumes that we will offer Novak 3m, which I think is a little too much that we can afford.
But it shows why we might not have the MLE and LLE, and must let some players go because we cannot afford them on our roster.

i dont think novak is worth that much and i love the guy. i mean all he can do is shoot but only when he gets a nice setup. I mean lin is different because he can score and dish

I agree, but a team like Miami, can afford to pay him that amount with their mini-MLE , especially if Mike Miller and/or James Jones retires.