Nalod wrote:Annibus......

The wildcard might be the draft picks not just Your boy Gallo.

Then, as now I think you gotta give it 5 years to look back.

Year one we were projecting .500 or better and would have made the playoffs without Melo. Swept.
Year two we are no better.

Now if you talking the future thats a different story.

I think your looking at the pieces looking to make yourself feel better and boster your MeloLove.

The bottom line is Denver is rebuilding on the fly without stars and have great flex and draft picks.

All the while, they are no better but more important, NOT WORSE doing so.

Thats the direction they wanted to go. They felt like Melo was a star they could/did not want to pay and perhaps felt they would never win a championship with.

Year two they are in the playoffs again and they traded their star for what you percieve was less than full value.

Nobody is crying over AR being in Minny. At least teh Darko cries are done.

Where are "They Now"? Funny, about the same place we are.

So the question is, was it really worth it?

And suppose it was not worth it and dumb jimmy gave up more picks than he needed to and out bid himself just like he did with Amare, what now? We just complain about how dumb he is endlessly? That certainly won't help me feel better. The trade is over - we can look at it in a couple of years and see how the teams ended up but no use over crying and regurgitating this over and over.

Bonn1997 wrote:

KnicksFE wrote:

GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:We may be better off with the trade but you could easily add:

Melo - Getting swept in the first round for the 2nd straight year
Knicks - 6th highest payroll in the league. Longest playoff losing streak in NBA history. Deeply flawed roster.

Plus 43 Wins and 47 Lost games since the trade.

And the most clutch player in the league is now on our team

Yes. Now if we could only surround him with PJax, Shaq/Gasol-Bynum

I would say exchanging Lee, Zach, multiple first round picks, gallo, chandler, crawford was worth it to lock in a 7th and 8th seed.

Nalod wrote:Annibus......

The wildcard might be the draft picks not just Your boy Gallo.

Then, as now I think you gotta give it 5 years to look back.

Year one we were projecting .500 or better and would have made the playoffs without Melo. Swept.
Year two we are no better.

Now if you talking the future thats a different story.

I think your looking at the pieces looking to make yourself feel better and boster your MeloLove.

The bottom line is Denver is rebuilding on the fly without stars and have great flex and draft picks.

All the while, they are no better but more important, NOT WORSE doing so.

Thats the direction they wanted to go. They felt like Melo was a star they could/did not want to pay and perhaps felt they would never win a championship with.

Year two they are in the playoffs again and they traded their star for what you percieve was less than full value.

Nobody is crying over AR being in Minny. At least teh Darko cries are done.

Where are "They Now"? Funny, about the same place we are.

So the question is, was it really worth it?

In 3 yrs we should have cap space with Amare and Chandler coming off the books.

I dont love Melo. I like the Knicks having top 5 players at their position.

I like potential as much as the next guy but after 2-3 years I'm not expecting guys to make quantum leaps in performance. Sometimes what you see is what you get.

If Jamal Crawford had a brain he would be a star.

If Eddy Curry had heart he would be baby Shaq.

If Chandler had handle he would be allstar caliber.

If Gallo was consistent he'd be a great player.

The list goes on and on.

At least we have a guy we can build around and maybe make a run with in Melo. The only reason Gallo and Chandler had enough value was because they were on rookie deals.
Lets see Gallo and Chandler fetch a guy like Howard or D Williams in a trade.

Oh and Denver is about to be capped out with their current team. Miller is a UFA, McGee is a RFA, Fernandez is a RFA, Tyson qualifies for an extension this summer as well.

Reminds me of the old Knicks. Lots of role players and no stars.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:Thanks; I try

Lebron is heads and shoulders the best player in the league - its not even close but this was a case of bringing a plastic knife to a gun fight.

I think OKC and the Spurs will give the Heat a great fight. If Rose comes back healthy, the Bulls will too in the future.

As will the Lakers - all those teams are stacked and possibly better or as good as the Heat

As Shaq said last night, you really don't have much of a chance unless you have the right coach/system, the right role players and most importantly a 1-2 punch.

AnubisADL wrote:

Nalod wrote:Annibus......

The wildcard might be the draft picks not just Your boy Gallo.

Then, as now I think you gotta give it 5 years to look back.

Year one we were projecting .500 or better and would have made the playoffs without Melo. Swept.
Year two we are no better.

Now if you talking the future thats a different story.

I think your looking at the pieces looking to make yourself feel better and boster your MeloLove.

The bottom line is Denver is rebuilding on the fly without stars and have great flex and draft picks.

All the while, they are no better but more important, NOT WORSE doing so.

Thats the direction they wanted to go. They felt like Melo was a star they could/did not want to pay and perhaps felt they would never win a championship with.

Year two they are in the playoffs again and they traded their star for what you percieve was less than full value.

Nobody is crying over AR being in Minny. At least teh Darko cries are done.

Where are "They Now"? Funny, about the same place we are.

So the question is, was it really worth it?

In 3 yrs we should have cap space with Amare and Chandler coming off the books.

I dont love Melo. I like the Knicks having top 5 players at their position.

I like potential as much as the next guy but after 2-3 years I'm not expecting guys to make quantum leaps in performance. Sometimes what you see is what you get.

If Jamal Crawford had a brain he would be a star.

If Eddy Curry had heart he would be baby Shaq.

If Chandler had handle he would be allstar caliber.

If Gallo was consistent he'd be a great player.

The list goes on and on.

At least we have a guy we can build around and maybe make a run with in Melo. The only reason Gallo and Chandler had enough value was because they were on rookie deals.
Lets see Gallo and Chandler fetch a guy like Howard or D Williams in a trade.

Oh and Denver is about to be capped out with their current team. Miller is a UFA, McGee is a RFA, Fernandez is a RFA, Tyson qualifies for an extension this summer as well.

Reminds me of the old Knicks. Lots of role players and no stars.

This is my hope with this team; however, Melo has to understand how important he is to the fans, to his teammates and to the organization, he CAN’T uses the regular season to get in basketball shape anymore, his dedication should star in the offseason, and his effort should never have to be question.
Otherwise as talented as he is, he may not be the right player to build around; the next two years should be very telling. Lets hope.

Like yesterday, like tomorrow.

But the Heat are amazing!