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fishmike
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5/4/2012  8:38 AM
Woodson is the best coach the Knicks can have. He got Melo to play hard for a month, something the prior coach had failed to do.

we are the Hawks. We are the Knuggets. This is the caliber of team we locked ourselves into.

Next savior:
Jeremy Lin!

How many more games till he's the Asian Nash?

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DurzoBlint
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5/4/2012  9:40 AM
crzymdups wrote:yeah, woody really did a horrible job coaching when he let shump blow his knee out. or when he let amar'e guard that fire extinguisher.

to my mind the only mistake woodson made was not tanking for 8th.

considering how the 76ers went into tank mode to make sure the faced the Bulls and, add the fact that we were trying for 6th seed, that wasn't happening.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
GodSaveTheKnicks
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5/4/2012  9:45 AM
Woody may not be the greatest coach but he had the team playing pretty well this season. I don't think any coach alive could have beat the Heat with the players we had available in a lockout shortened season taking over a team mid season.

That being said I think we need some type of genius to figure out how Melo Amare and Chandler work together. Maybe Dolan and Grunfeld should coach the team since they put it together

Let's try to elevate the level of discourse in this byeetch. Please
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5/4/2012  9:52 AM
Knicksfan wrote:This was the game that sold me on letting Woodson go. We can use any excuse we want, especially the injuries. Truth is, Woody earned all the respect of his defendants by beating the odds even without a healthy team.

But now that the playoffs start, suddenly we lose two in a row, suddenly being shorthanded really dictates a result and now we are about to be swept. Coincidence that Woodson was fired from Atlanta because of this?

Use all the excuses you want for the series, truth is he sealed the deal with this last game. Game 3 was supposed to go to NY. Miami was off and any adjustment on offense would've won it. Woody found another way to lose a playoff game, his postseason forte.

If you root for Woody to stay and get your wish, enjoy the season and just tune the Knicks off when the playoff start.

Disagree. The Heat were off on the offensive end, but they were on defensively. Great defense will always keep you in the game especially when you have 2 superstars that can catch fire at a moments notice carry a club for a quarter. The Heat locked in on defense and their wasn't much we could do with the lineup we had out there.

We lose 2 in a row on the road at Miami, the team with the best home record, cant blame Woodson for that.

Cant say we were supposed to win last night when Melo and JR (a 6th man) are your best scoring options. We got outclassed by a much better team on both sides of the ball. It aint that deep....

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5/4/2012  10:26 AM
I see many love excuses. If so, you should be loving this stage for NY.

Can't blame Woody. Can't blame Melo. Can't blame Stat. Can't blame the team. The Heat is just a better team. They were in the Finals and will win this season. We did the best we could with our personnel. We simply couldn't do better than laying on the floor and playing death.

Congrats! We won the championship of excuses again. Going for the three-peat next season. Can't wait, Im sure!

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5/4/2012  10:31 AM
playing the heat wasn't the best of scenarios but also losing the way we are is inexcusable. these games we have combined for maybe 3 or 4 quarters of competitive basketball.

woodson was never the greatest coach.. our defensive improvements were because of chandler and chandler alone. if we want any shot of competing with the best teams we need a coach who won't take things off the table. that is not woodson.

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5/4/2012  10:34 AM
JamesKPolk wrote:Woodson is not a good coach. This will be his third straight playoff sweep as a coach. I already knew he was awful but that 18-6 thing is going to live on and people will say he's amazing for it. Hawks fans hated him because he was an awful playoff coach. He still is. I really hope Woodson doesn't return.

that is a ridiculous statement. You have to take into account who they faced. I don't put down any 8th seed for being swept by a #1.

Anyone who didn't see a sweep coming against Miami was wearing rose colored glasses. So how can this be a Knock again the coach. I'm not sure who eliminated him the previous 2years but, I believe at least one was against the Magic team that went to the finals. Again, that wasn't really surprising at the time.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/4/2012  10:38 AM
Caseloads wrote:look, as bad as this team is, Woodson is a terrible playoff coach. when teams kick it up a notch in the playoffs, he is clueless. Where is the no layups rule? the hard fouls. Where is the emotion, anything? why did woody let them keep throwing those low passes at Chandler's shins when he fumbles them away (he did it like 6 times this past game). Seriously, why not lob? Why not let Josh harrelson defend lebron or bosh in the low post? Why not deliver some hard fouls?

considering how many fouls that were called, if he went with that tactic damn near everyone would have fouled out. We'd be the 1st team in my lifetime to have so many fouls they would have to leave players in with 5 or more. In such cases I believe it's a technical for every addition foul.

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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5/4/2012  10:46 AM
Woody did a remarkable job with the little bit of time and large amount of confusion in the Knicks' house this season. The Heat are in a different class than the Knicks and are playing together. We will be fine with a full season and some stability.

That aid, if Jax is crazy enough (stupid enough) to work for Dolan, then absolutely bring him in. He is a proven playoff winner and when all is said and done, we want a chip. Anything short is not acceptable.

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5/4/2012  12:04 PM
Knicksfan wrote:I see many love excuses. If so, you should be loving this stage for NY.

Can't blame Woody. Can't blame Melo. Can't blame Stat. Can't blame the team. The Heat is just a better team. They were in the Finals and will win this season. We did the best we could with our personnel. We simply couldn't do better than laying on the floor and playing death.

Congrats! We won the championship of excuses again. Going for the three-peat next season. Can't wait, Im sure!

what's your alternative? You really think the Knicks, within the context of this season, could beat the Heat?

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