CrushAlot wrote:

Solace wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Solace wrote:Btw, Woodson coming back as coach next year... I'm sorry, but if we get swept, he should not come back. It's a ****ing embarrassment. Hold the ****ing team accountable, fine Amar'e $100k for his ****ing selfish stupidity and bench guys for being lazy. What happened to the ****ing accountability? Ball movement? None. Defense? Not when it mattered. MDA had the team better prepared in the playoffs last season than we were for this series; we simply didn't have the firepower last season. This season we have the firepower and we don't have the effort or preparation. Fuck this team.

Are you ignoring the fact that this team is playing without 3 starters which is also 3 of our top 5 scorers? Seriously, who is scoring for us other than Melo or JR? I thought we played tremendous defense in the first half, but in the second half, particularly the 4th Q, the HEAT superstars came alive and made tough shots.

Sometimes you have to give the other team credit. The Heat are one of the best defensive teams I've seen in a long time. Going up against that defense with Melo and JR as your only reliable scoring options is asking for trouble.

And we were without three starters partially because one starter took himself out by punching a fire hydrant? Seriously? Inexcusable. $100k fine minimum, IMHO. I cannot believe Amar'e pulled a Sprewell. Like I said. Fuck this team.

What Amare did should impact Amare not Woodson's future. I think Uptown makes good points. I don't think the Knicks get swept by any other eastern conference team and I think there is a good chance the team advances. The Heat are probably going to win a title this year. They have a ton of talent.

There's no excuse for getting swept. What teams did the Heat sweep last season in the playoffs? None. That's right, none. If we're not on the level of 2011 Philadelphia 76ers, we might as well not bother with the playoffs.

martin wrote:

Solace wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Solace wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Solace wrote:Btw, Woodson coming back as coach next year... I'm sorry, but if we get swept, he should not come back. It's a ****ing embarrassment. Hold the ****ing team accountable, fine Amar'e $100k for his ****ing selfish stupidity and bench guys for being lazy. What happened to the ****ing accountability? Ball movement? None. Defense? Not when it mattered. MDA had the team better prepared in the playoffs last season than we were for this series; we simply didn't have the firepower last season. This season we have the firepower and we don't have the effort or preparation. Fuck this team.

Are you ignoring the fact that this team is playing without 3 starters which is also 3 of our top 5 scorers? Seriously, who is scoring for us other than Melo or JR? I thought we played tremendous defense in the first half, but in the second half, particularly the 4th Q, the HEAT superstars came alive and made tough shots.

Sometimes you have to give the other team credit. The Heat are one of the best defensive teams I've seen in a long time. Going up against that defense with Melo and JR as your only reliable scoring options is asking for trouble.

And we were without three starters partially because one starter took himself out by punching a fire hydrant? Seriously? Inexcusable. $100k fine minimum, IMHO. I cannot believe Amar'e pulled a Sprewell. Like I said. Fuck this team.

What Amare did should impact Amare not Woodson's future. I think Uptown makes good points. I don't think the Knicks get swept by any other eastern conference team and I think there is a good chance the team advances. The Heat are probably going to win a title this year. They have a ton of talent.

There's no excuse for getting swept. What teams did the Heat sweep last season in the playoffs? None. That's right, none. If we're not on the level of 2011 Philadelphia 76ers, we might as well not bother with the playoffs.

No taking into account Lin, JJ, missing Chandler with flu,amare?

As this board has noted repeatedly, we're the deepest team in the league. Losing games by 35, 10, 17 - no, inexcusable. We had less talent on the floor last year against a game opponent, the scores were closer and the effort was much better.

Solace wrote:

As this board has noted repeatedly, we're the deepest team in the league. Losing games by 35, 10, 17 - no, inexcusable. We had less talent on the floor last year against a game opponent, the scores were closer and the effort was much better.

how the FUCCCCCK are they the deepest team in the league with three starters out and one starter with the flu and jeffries and davis too injured to play more than 15 minutes?

are you kidding me? get the F outta here

you're comparing the 2011 celtics to the 2012 heat? okay, at least you admit you don't know what you're talking about.

Solace wrote:

martin wrote:

Solace wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Solace wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Solace wrote:Btw, Woodson coming back as coach next year... I'm sorry, but if we get swept, he should not come back. It's a ****ing embarrassment. Hold the ****ing team accountable, fine Amar'e $100k for his ****ing selfish stupidity and bench guys for being lazy. What happened to the ****ing accountability? Ball movement? None. Defense? Not when it mattered. MDA had the team better prepared in the playoffs last season than we were for this series; we simply didn't have the firepower last season. This season we have the firepower and we don't have the effort or preparation. Fuck this team.

Are you ignoring the fact that this team is playing without 3 starters which is also 3 of our top 5 scorers? Seriously, who is scoring for us other than Melo or JR? I thought we played tremendous defense in the first half, but in the second half, particularly the 4th Q, the HEAT superstars came alive and made tough shots.

Sometimes you have to give the other team credit. The Heat are one of the best defensive teams I've seen in a long time. Going up against that defense with Melo and JR as your only reliable scoring options is asking for trouble.

And we were without three starters partially because one starter took himself out by punching a fire hydrant? Seriously? Inexcusable. $100k fine minimum, IMHO. I cannot believe Amar'e pulled a Sprewell. Like I said. Fuck this team.

What Amare did should impact Amare not Woodson's future. I think Uptown makes good points. I don't think the Knicks get swept by any other eastern conference team and I think there is a good chance the team advances. The Heat are probably going to win a title this year. They have a ton of talent.

There's no excuse for getting swept. What teams did the Heat sweep last season in the playoffs? None. That's right, none. If we're not on the level of 2011 Philadelphia 76ers, we might as well not bother with the playoffs.

No taking into account Lin, JJ, missing Chandler with flu,amare?

As this board has noted repeatedly, we're the deepest team in the league. Losing games by 35, 10, 17 - no, inexcusable. We had less talent on the floor last year against a game opponent, the scores were closer and the effort was much better.

Miami gonna win it this year.

Losing sucks and Knicks have had a bad run of luck. Again.

crzymdups wrote:anyone complaining about this team losing to the probable nba champion heat needs a serious reality check.

the team lost THREE STARTERS TO INJURY - Lin, Amar'e, Shump

and it's best bench defender in jeffries looked like his knee locked up in the 4th again.

WHAT DID YOU EXPECT????

ya, not sure i follow the expectations at this time for folks complaining... this isnt like 99 where PE went down.

JamesKPolk wrote:Amare was injured for one game. The two games he played in we suck.

Shumpert got injured in a 40 point blowout.

The team was supposed to be a top 3 seed before anyone knew who Lin was. Remember Baron "the savior" Davis? Yeah, that didn't work out well.

Why can't people accept that after two straight playoff sweeps with two different coaches that Amare and Carmelo cannot play together and are the problem.

oh, well that part i agree with. amar'e and melo will never work together.

AnubisADL wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Amare was injured for one game. The two games he played in we suck.

Shumpert got injured in a 40 point blowout.

The team was supposed to be a top 3 seed before anyone knew who Lin was. Remember Baron "the savior" Davis? Yeah, that didn't work out well.

Why can't people accept that after two straight playoff sweeps with two different coaches that Amare and Carmelo cannot play together and are the problem.

Agree 100%.

So who is the genious who assemled this mismash? Mister Jimmy... and his main bbal consultant mister Isiah.
The names of players are different but the result is same - this team sucks.

AnubisADL wrote:

arkrud wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

JamesKPolk wrote:Amare was injured for one game. The two games he played in we suck.

Shumpert got injured in a 40 point blowout.

The team was supposed to be a top 3 seed before anyone knew who Lin was. Remember Baron "the savior" Davis? Yeah, that didn't work out well.

Why can't people accept that after two straight playoff sweeps with two different coaches that Amare and Carmelo cannot play together and are the problem.

Agree 100%.

So who is the genious who assemled this mismash? Mister Jimmy... and his main bbal consultant mister Isiah.
The names of players are different but the result is same - this team sucks.

When the team is doing good give Walsh credit. When the team does bad blame Dolan and Isiah. I get it now.

Walsh signed Amare to a 100 million dollar uninsured deal. Oh wait the deal is turning out not to be good so Isiah and Dolan signed him. See Im learning.

But if Amre doesn't come then we don't get Melo! Wait ... how does this argument go again? I thought we hate Melo ... I'm confused ...

If we don't sign Amare then we don't GUT OUR ROSTER FOR MELO and then we can get lots of "pieces"

See I'm learning too

crzymdups wrote:

Solace wrote:

As this board has noted repeatedly, we're the deepest team in the league. Losing games by 35, 10, 17 - no, inexcusable. We had less talent on the floor last year against a game opponent, the scores were closer and the effort was much better.

how the FUCCCCCK are they the deepest team in the league with three starters out and one starter with the flu and jeffries and davis too injured to play more than 15 minutes?

are you kidding me? get the F outta here

you're comparing the 2011 celtics to the 2012 heat? okay, at least you admit you don't know what you're talking about.

Because you disagree, I don't know what I'm talking about? Please. That's a pathetic argument. We have injuries, so we shouldn't win a single game? Injuries are part of the game. The Mavs won an NBA championship with injuries, the Orlando Magic won game 1 without Dwight Howard. Most teams have injuries. Lin wasn't even part of the plans this year and all of the sudden he's our excuse when we don't win? Why don't you admit a strawman argument? Nobody on this board claimed they expected the Knicks to get swept; a lot of people wanted 2 wins this series, at least. Now all the sudden, getting SWEPT again and breaking the NBA record is no big deal? F off.

I'm talking about effort and a game plan. You also act like Amar'e has not been available to play all series. His injury was self-inflicted and he CHOSE to take himself out of the game by being a @@#$@#$#ing idiot. No excuses for that, I'm sorry. If you make excuses for that, you need your head examined. I'm tired of excuses. We've had excuses for 10 years. Work through the difficulties and win. This is more than bad luck. Every team has some bad luck, but lesser teams are putting up better showings than the Knicks, why is that? It's not simply the opponent.

Steven A. Smith said he wanted the Knicks to have the Heat in the first round, so we can see what the Knicks are made of. Oh, we see what the Knicks are made of...

jello. No heart, however, until proven otherwise.