gunsnewing wrote:

matt wrote:something is definitely wrong with him, other than basketball. That whole "brother tragically dying in a car crash" thing combined with an injured back all season must be screwing with the guys head real bad.

.... box out

Damn as i trash amare i forgot about that. its been a rough year for him but he just doesn't fit a defensively oriented team. Not trying to be a dick. It is what it is

It's tough. Everyone, myself included, trashes the guy but we forget that he also has real problems. Playing just might not be the fix right now..

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

Problem is when we try to feature Amare then Melo's game goes south. Its just not working. The lesser of the two evils is sticking with Melo because he at least rebounds and tries defensively

Michael6835 wrote:

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

I don't know why they wouldn't do pick and roll with amare and melo more often.

Vmart wrote:Why does everyone overreact around here. Everyone just calm the F' up. Amare is a beast next game he is gonna be in boasting mode.

lol

Michael6835 wrote:

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

I don't know why they wouldn't do pick and roll with amare and melo more often.

I don't get that either even with Dantoni coaching who ran nash/amare pnr's all day. all season there has never been an effort made to get them to play together. It is one or the other. They rarely look to pass the ball to each other even when open. They rather go one on one and forced up a shot on the triple team or step out of bounds

if he's gonna punch something like that and knock himself out for the series... punch lebron! (kidding... mostly)

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

des for every basket that amare scores, he gives up defensively.

maybe he wasn't that bad tonight, maybe i'm just tired of seeing the crap from him. i can't watch him stand under the hoop defensively while a player drives right past him for an easy bucket. i wanna see him give a hard foul just once or make a play on the ball.

nyk4ever wrote:

VDesai wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:i don't care how many points amare had tonight - he made absolutely zero impact on the game. he has completely lost all explosiveness around the hoop and can't finish. he plays no defense whatsoever and doesn't even attempt to stop layups. dude acts like a tough guy but he plays softer than steve kerr. i've had enough of amare.

if he really is out next game, it's probably addition by subtraction because amare is just a detriment right now.

Was Amare really this bad tonight? I don't think so. He certainly needs to be much better defensively, but the guy just never got the ball. Melo took 26 shots Amare took 9. You cannot get Amare Stoudemire only 9 shots. He scored 18 pts- meaning 2 for every time he shot. That's pretty freaking good. He is an efficient scorer and we have yet to figure out a way to use him with Carmelo Anthony on the floor.

des for every basket that amare scores, he gives up defensively.

maybe he wasn't that bad tonight, maybe i'm just tired of seeing the crap from him. i can't watch him stand under the hoop defensively while a player drives right past him for an easy bucket. i wanna see him give a hard foul just once or make a play on the ball.