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gunsnewing
Posts: 55076 Alba Posts: 5 Joined: 2/24/2002 Member: #215 USA |
4/26/2012 1:03 PM
I believe the Ewing trade was interim GM Bernie Bickerstaff
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Nalod
Posts: 71190 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
4/26/2012 2:48 PM LAST EDITED: 4/26/2012 3:12 PM
Camby was frail then. Camby in ny as a 23 year old game totals:
46 Not a durable player. We had him at age 24-28 and he looked cooked. The mistake was not making the trade as said, Dice was cleared and was a beast. The mistake was that we did that trade when we could hve drafted Amare! Denver passed on Amare twice. It happens. You guys love crapping on people and forget facts as they were or the conditions by which decisions are made. It was Ewing that forced that trade and no owner will make such a deal without appoval. A deal had to be made. The mistake was made by resigning Ewing to a crazy contract. Ewing had missed the better of two seasons, then had a good year, then wanted to be "The Man" again at age 37!!!!!! We had few options at the time. The whole thing was a mess. Layden inherited this problem and did not come out of it good. Spree was out of control at the time he was traded. Its more likely Dolan told pansy Layde to trade him. Spree was not traded for Van Horn because Van HOrn was want we wanted, it had to happen. The riff between management and Spree was one of distrust. Givens Sprees record, the knicks were not the ones at fault. BY the way, Dolan is not a scumbag. His is an asswhole for sure, but he really does not back down from a promise and he tends to be loyal to a fault. The Deal with Houstan is pretty simple to understand that we made a promise that if he opted out he would be met with a bigger number. I don't like the contract but there is no logical conclusion that H20 would opt out and get a $100 million deal without a prior handshake. Evident by Dolans high regard to him post season its a very likley scenario. Check your facts about what Sterling was accused of and found liable. They guy is scum. But his scum is outside of basketball. The Baylor lawsuit was never even heard: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/30/sports/la-sp-clippers-baylor-sterling-20110331 [/url The facts you bought up and accusations have nothing to do with Basketball. Danny Manning never lived up to his no. 1 pick status and was not worth Max money. His father Ed was a college coach and played proball himself for 8 years. While not wealthy, Danny was not a poor kid. If Sterling said such a thing he was wrong but Elgin Baylor worked for 22 years for Sterling. When He was fired is when the team started spending money. Elgin Baylor if responsable for his picks did a lousy job. Most of those picks were not worthy of resigning. Darious Miles? Danny Manning (good kid, great college player!), Danny Ferry? Olokandi? and solid picks were traded like our own Tyson Chandler with Chicago. Im not going to go over every deal but its pretty clear the Clippers were a mixture of bad luck, back drafts and some trades that did not work or further diluted by consequential trades. In 1995 they traded the just drafted Antonio McDyess (no. 2 overall) for Rodney Rogers and a picks that turned out to be Brent Barry. Traded Tyson Chandler for Elton Brand. Actually, a good trade at the time. Brand was in his prime and Chandler has needed time to stay healthy and succeed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Clippers_draft_history Elgin Baylor was 76 when he was let go. He stayed on for 22 years and signed those contracts. His salary might not have been as high as others but what was his market for many of those years? Who would hire him? He never left. His suit showed no discrimination agaist him by Sterling. While there is usualy smoke wehre there is fire, Im sure Sterling was an ass as have many owners in all sports. Im not saying he was not guilty, but Im just sticking to the facts related to basketball. Since Baylor was let go and the team raised its salary structure, they have been getting better. Picks since 2008 are pretty solid. Since we follow the knicks like no other our history is magnified in our eyes. Many teams have made blunders that set the franchise back for years. Layden tenure was only 4 years and sandwiched by Grunfeld's and Isiahs. The seeds of demise for the knicks was the core riff between JVG and Grunfeld. JVG survived because we went to the finals. Go back and look at those problems and you better understand the conditions by which Layden failed in. Make no mistake, Layden failed, but I don't blame him for all what happend. |