Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

What is "average to below average" elsewhere? You are obviously measuring those stats differently because they are diluted by everyone's "at the rim" numbers, right?

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season...I won't call it being sensitive at all just pointing out your blind bias..

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

This season is not the issue at hand, we know it was his worst and there are many possibilities as to why that do not need regurgitation.

Do you want to rehash "THE SEASON" or do you want to deal with or talk about how he's playing now?

All you really discuss in threads at this point is your disdain for Melo, so yes - it does sound like propaganda.

I did not know you had any issue with Stat until you said yesterday that you were not for the signing. He is our biggest problem but you don't really care to discuss him.

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

statandmelo1234 wrote:

tj23 wrote:Superstar numbers

29.4 ppg on 50% shooting last 5 games. superstar indeed

Why on earth would you be citing a 5 game stretch for a player with a 635 game track record?

Seem like you used just the year's stats which is his worst...And you are calling someone else out?

one year is similar to 5 games? And I posted career estimates too anyway.

So why didn't you use the 635 games as opposed to 50 games? And you only posted it when someone called u on it...

I think you're just looking to stir up trouble here. Note the following:
A) I did not criticize Melo in the OP. In fact, I later defended him.
B) Hoopdata (my source) does not give career numbers.
C) His career numbers paint the same picture as this season anyway (good at the rim and average to below average elsewhere).

Do you have a substantive complaint here? What statements have I made that would be inaccurate had I used his career numbers?

The fact that u asked someone why on earth would u use a 5 game sampling when u yourself used a limited amount of games...

Why is a full season limited? What would be an example of an "unlimited" sample? You are so sensitive about Melo that you can't even recognize that I was not criticizing him.

U are hanging your hat in 44 games while giving someone a hard time for 5 games...44 games is hardly a full season

No, I wasn't. My conclusions are not dependent on that 44 games. The pattern is the same for his whole career; I just didn't have access to the career #s. I posted the best sample I had access to. Go to the website and tell me what would have been a better sample to post or quit complaining. Then tell me what conclusions I reached would have been different if I'd used his full career stats or quit complaining.

Really I dont really care for stats like that it doesnt tell the whole basketball story...See what a player brings nightly is more appealing to me...Good luck spinning your propaganda ..

OK, what part of the story is it missing? And what is my propaganda? Can you give specifics instead of voicing vague complaints?
If you think examining shooting percentage by location is useless, then you are not obligated to reply to this thread.

The constant daily negative drumbeat ...U picked the worst season of his career in a limited timeframe and u aren't spinning anything...ok

But this season was representative in terms of the issue at hand (that Melo is good around the rim and mediocre elsewhere). I picked the worst season of his career to discuss an issue to which the fact that this was his worst season had no relevance.

I've addressed every one of your comments. Can you address any of mine? Here are the questions I've asked that you've run away from:
A) What would have been a better sample to post?
B) What part of the story are these stats missing?
C) What is my "propaganda"?

Ok can u admit that a 44 game sampling is not a full season?

I'm not going to play a game where I answer all your questions and you ignore all mine. Sorry.

I'm addressing (c) propaganda