NYKBocker wrote:Sounds like you had a great time in spite of the outcome.

My disappointment with Baron is not his speed, I figured he will be slower with his injuries and age, but the fact that it seems he does not know how to manage a game. It really is perplexing when Tyson and Novak were not getting any touches for a good part of the game.

That's not entirely true..Baron has had his physical struggles the last few games but he has managed parts of the game very well in the past ...There were games Clyde lauded him for it and also said he isn't looking for his own shot enough..Novak isn't a secret anymore, he can't get open on his own, can't blame Baron for that..

Moonangie wrote:Nash next year, please.

misterearl wrote:I Miss Lin

NYKBocker wrote:Sounds like you had a great time in spite of the outcome.

My disappointment with Baron is not his speed, I figured he will be slower with his injuries and age, but the fact that it seems he does not know how to manage a game. It really is perplexing when Tyson and Novak were not getting any touches for a good part of the game.

nykbocker - It is a crime that Steve Novak had one shot attempt. We desperately need a third double digit scorer. Tyson Chandler should average 15 a game, minimally.

The ball movement actually picked up the moment Baron gave it up.

His relentless pounding in one spot is maddening.

That was problem on Chandler and Novak not getting ball more touches
solely due to sore BD and Knicks had NO PG Play
'c//ny
You cant beat anyone without a PG to lead the way Knicks play now

misterearl wrote:I Miss Lin

NYKBocker wrote:Sounds like you had a great time in spite of the outcome.

My disappointment with Baron is not his speed, I figured he will be slower with his injuries and age, but the fact that it seems he does not know how to manage a game. It really is perplexing when Tyson and Novak were not getting any touches for a good part of the game.

nykbocker - It is a crime that Steve Novak had one shot attempt. We desperately need a third double digit scorer. Tyson Chandler should average 15 a game, minimally.

The ball movement actually picked up the moment Baron gave it up.

His relentless pounding in one spot is maddening.

Let's not get ridiculous, Tyson's has a career 8ppg and his best season is only 11.8ppg, and that was playing next to a pre-injury CP3.

misterearl wrote:Not The Board... The Answer Man Said So

sealy wrote:Man this board is so quick to jump to the conclusion that guys are done.

The "jump to conclusion" is based on watching Davis over the past two weeks, and watching him in person. He is so dreadfully slow bringing the ball upcourt that the offense accelerates once he gives it up.

That is not what one wants from a lead guard. More than anything, Davis must set the tempo.

Whether it is his tender hamstring, or the fear of Mike Woodson's wrath after a way too-casual turnover, Davis is only a few clicks better than Toney Douglas, and Toney Douglas is a ball of confusion.

I cringe at the ridiculousness of this statement. You sure you're the "answer man"? I've also watched TD pretty closely in person and on the tube over the past 2 years and I've come to my own simple conclusion that he isn't a smart basketball player and that's why he doesn't play. Have you seen him attempt to run a PnR or even a basic offense? Of course you have, so you saying Baron is only slightly better is pretty unusual to me.

Agreed that Baron's decision making has been poor, but, as I said in my original response and what you seem to be overlooking (as many did w/ Amar'e earlier this season and what I was referencing), he's not 100% healthy (back, thigh, calf, etc...), still doesn't have his legs under him and has been thrust into heavy minutes, which obviously hasn't helped him. But even with all of this, he is still better than TD.

I hope Baron can get it together because, while I agree he's not gonna be the 07' Baron, he will be more than serviceable as the PG. TD should stick playing his man at half court for no reason and jacking shots w/ 23 on the shot clock in garbage time. Dude just doesn't get it.

Click 1. Davis has more experience running an offense, but is limited physically due to injury.
Click 2. Davis' endurance limits him to no more than 20 effective minutes a game. Anything more invites further erosion to his fragile body
Click 3. Douglas, as limited a decision maker as he is on offense, is the superior defender
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Unfortunately, we are not.

Click 1: agreed
Click 2: I think he can handle more minutes than that.
Click 3: Couldn't disagree more here and I think TD is one of the most overrated defenders the Knicks have had in some time. Baron gets burnt because he's hurt and slow, like you saw personally against Teague. What's TD's excuse for getting blown past all the time? Baron, being the more heady and veteran player, is a much better help defender and on ball defender against bigger guards who try to use their size.