sealy wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:If you can get a rotation guy in the back half of the NBA 1st round, then you've got to consider that a win.

I think it's a little early to decide if both players or one or the other is going to have the better career. Shump has room to develop offensively and build his reputation with the refs defensively. Faried is a young big man, and typically they take longer to develop than other positions, thought I can see why he fell in the draft, he's a 6'8 230 power forward who plays the low post, which many probably felt would turn him into a tweener at the NBA level.

I think also that folks have to consider that Faried and Shump might not be as successful if they were on different teams or lineups. Both teams have legitimate depth and some size, not all teams can say that.

But if this year is a flat line indicator, I would prefer the player with size. Positional value would make Faried the much more valuable asset for the long haul.

Good post and while I agree w/ generally preferring to draft a player with size (I was on the Faried bandwagon), Shumpert has dislayed some of the best on the ball d I've ever seen from a Knick guard.

And the more confidence and consistency he gains on the offensive can be brought along gradually, given the depth on this team.

When was the last time the Knicks hit on a draft pick? And we have 2!

Whose the second?

mrKnickShot wrote:

sealy wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:If you can get a rotation guy in the back half of the NBA 1st round, then you've got to consider that a win.

I think it's a little early to decide if both players or one or the other is going to have the better career. Shump has room to develop offensively and build his reputation with the refs defensively. Faried is a young big man, and typically they take longer to develop than other positions, thought I can see why he fell in the draft, he's a 6'8 230 power forward who plays the low post, which many probably felt would turn him into a tweener at the NBA level.

I think also that folks have to consider that Faried and Shump might not be as successful if they were on different teams or lineups. Both teams have legitimate depth and some size, not all teams can say that.

But if this year is a flat line indicator, I would prefer the player with size. Positional value would make Faried the much more valuable asset for the long haul.

Good post and while I agree w/ generally preferring to draft a player with size (I was on the Faried bandwagon), Shumpert has dislayed some of the best on the ball d I've ever seen from a Knick guard.

And the more confidence and consistency he gains on the offensive can be brought along gradually, given the depth on this team.

When was the last time the Knicks hit on a draft pick? And we have 2!

Whose the second?

Harrelson...

crzymdups wrote:the folks who wanted kenneth faried weren't wrong, but shumpert has been a fantastic pick. the kid has poise. when he can gain some consistency with his offensive game, he's going to be a force in this league.

he really does remind me of a young sprewell.

Been saying this from day 1..

LarrythaLeo wrote:I can see the Spree comparisons but if you really dissect his game i see a bigger Dwanye Wade. Dwade is more of a flat out scorer however but iman has similar skills athleticism, good midrange game. I'm willing to say at this point in their careers iman has better defensive prowess.

Dwayne Wade rookie year
03-04 MIA 61 56 34.9 0.465FG 0.3023P 0.747FT 1.4 2.7 4.0RPG 4.5Ast 1.4stl 0.6blk 3.21to 2.30pf 16.2ppg

Iman Shumpert rookie year
11-12 NYK 44 20 27.5 0.392FG 0.2873P 0.803FT 0.7 2.5 3.2RPG 2.8APG 1.7stl 0.2blk 2.0to 2.9pf 9.5ppg

Dwades numbers are better but he was given the keys when he joined the Miami team where Shumpert has played more of a role player with the knicks this season.

I agree, especially on the defensive end.