TheloniusMonk wrote:Every era has the best player and then the fan favorites. Ewing would have a 28 and 12 game and people would talk about how tough Oak was down low or how Starks shooting streak showed heart. But when they'd lose, it was always Ewing's fault. Ball stopper. Too slow etc. They even boo'd the guy. That was how it was. Ewing was the star so he got no love after a win and got all the blame during the loss. Nothing new. It's actually funny when you think about it. Not comparing Melo with Ewing but rather looking into how it has always been with Knicks "star" players. Ewing's era was the epitome of that.

Yup. Ewing was the classic example of a superstar who NY fans refused to fully love or really appreciate. It was always what he did not do -- missing key free throws down the stretch of a tight game were a fan favorite to get on him about. But the guy was truly one of the most consistently excellent players in NBA history. He played hard every single night, and you could pencil him in for 22 and 10, and of course he often surpassed that. But Oak, Mase and Starks were the fans' choices. Fans just did not relate well to Ewing. I think they knew he was a great player, but they just did not connect with him.

Erniecat wrote:

TheloniusMonk wrote:Every era has the best player and then the fan favorites. Ewing would have a 28 and 12 game and people would talk about how tough Oak was down low or how Starks shooting streak showed heart. But when they'd lose, it was always Ewing's fault. Ball stopper. Too slow etc. They even boo'd the guy. That was how it was. Ewing was the star so he got no love after a win and got all the blame during the loss. Nothing new. It's actually funny when you think about it. Not comparing Melo with Ewing but rather looking into how it has always been with Knicks "star" players. Ewing's era was the epitome of that.

Yup. Ewing was the classic example of a superstar who NY fans refused to fully love or really appreciate. It was always what he did not do -- missing key free throws down the stretch of a tight game were a fan favorite to get on him about. But the guy was truly one of the most consistently excellent players in NBA history. He played hard every single night, and you could pencil him in for 20 and 10, and of course he often surpassed that. But Oak, Mase and Starks were the fans' choices. Fans just did not relate well to Ewing. I think they knew he was a great player, but they just did not connect with him.

yep and he always played injured like when he missed the figure roll and did not have the legs to dunk the ball after carry the team.

ISOville.

Doesnt mean Im not happy about the win, but yea... when guys are hurt or your missing people you need to your big guns to dominate and he did. Good matchups for him and good job by Woodson putting him at the 4. I was suprised by that.

Chandler was big too... this team is garbage without him

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Melo needs the ball a TON just to score 30 points. That is not efficient. The offense looked horrible last night.

ISOville.

On offense, I saw more of the same from Melo. Some nights, the stat line will look good but I don't see any evidence that he actually now understands the difference between a good and a bad shot.

Another NBA player saying what they want to hear.

What he did was play thru injury but not tell even his staff how bad it was. He was a warrior but refused to either rest or accept a reduced role when injured. He demanded the ball and when he broke down, so did his game. Usually at the end of the season when it was on the line.

Love the guy for trying, but the arrogance was also tough to ignore.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Melo needs the ball a TON just to score 30 points. That is not efficient. The offense looked horrible last night.

ISOville.

The offense looked horrible because nobody, outside of Melo and Novak, could hit a shot. There was one stretch in the 3rd quarter where Knicks guards had something like six open looks in a row and couldn't get a shot to fall. If Landry, Baron, and JR (a combined 7-30) could hit an open jumper than we would've won running away. And they weren't, for the most part, trying to make something out of nothing, these were open shots that our guards just couldn't make.

That's the issue. Silenced what? That's what you're supposed to do. If you act like an elite level superstar you go out and play like one.

Does anyone enjoy watching this kid? It's the talented kid at the Y/Playground that doesn't pass and loves to score. If you're happy with a .500 record I don't know what to tell you.

I don't care if we beat crap teams with Lin everyone knew what their role is and where to be on the floor. When guys miss shots because one guy holds the ball and pounds it, it's very hard to keep a rythm.

Dude breaks down after one game in the spotlight and played up to his ability.

Spring is in the air.

Its been a good season, we are almost at April and the team is still watchable!

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Syniko wrote:Melo is fat.

hey, can we ban this kid?

Seriously. Anyway, it should be noted that Melo does wear a rib guard under his jersey.

How am I being called for a Ban when everyone was pretty much talking about how he was fat and overweight in the game thread. Don't talk out of both sides of your mouth.

i wasn't in the game thread, i was at the game. he's not fat. next question.

You need to learn how to read. I was talking about a discussion from the game thread. And enough with the rib-cage guard or whatever he's wearing under there. He looks out of shape tonight.

you said "don't talk out of both sides of your mouth"... i wasn't talking out of any side of my mouth in the game thread, as i wasn't in the game thread.

anyway, so i suppose you've answered my question and can't really find a fault with anything melo did on the floor.

How are you even going to start an argument over "Melo is fat". Deal with it.

maybe this would be an ideal moment to reflect and say to yourself, "gee, I just joined and people want me banned. why is that the case?"