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Olbrannon
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3/22/2012  8:04 PM
Michael6835 wrote:Personally,
I would like to avoid them for as long as we can.

Those 2 teams are scary good and we still need time. It took a lot of effort to beat philly last night. I'm glad we did, but Miami just destroys them each time they play. If I had to choose which team I would face to get the the finals, I would choose the Bulls.
They are good, but I think we match up well with them. They are essentially philly, with Derrick Rose...
The Heat with their big three and other parts clicking are just nothing to be messed with.
Not saying we wouldn't hold our own, I just think we need to win a few more games against +.500 teams for me to be convinced that we are trending in the right direction. So far we have beat toronto, a pacer team on the down swing, a good philly team thats coming back down to reality.

We'll definitely know where we stand by the time the season ends.
bulls twice, boston, miami, orlando, bucks,atlanta
all playoff teams.


it's like a boot camp, in many ways if nyk can start clicking, they may be able to ride that through the playoffs. chemistry is king, and its clicking right now. staying healthy will be the big test...


Well said. I remember reading how Woodson went on a tear in Atlanta when he first took over. The effort and energy look good out there. There is room for improvement. Another Heat-Knicks finals as in the last strike shortened season? At least what is on the floor (league wide) doesn't look like hot garbage like it did the first month of this season.

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crzymdups
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3/22/2012  8:17 PM
let's not go crazy here.

last year we said no one wanted to face the knicks in the first round and we got swept.

i agree with Michael, i'd like to avoid chicago and miami in the first round. if we get to the second round, we're pretty much going to have play one or the other.

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3/22/2012  9:00 PM
crzymdups wrote:let's not go crazy here.

last year we said no one wanted to face the knicks in the first round and we got swept.

i agree with Michael, i'd like to avoid chicago and miami in the first round. if we get to the second round, we're pretty much going to have play one or the other.


maybe you forgot, but we didn't have 2 of our best players, and had douglas running the point, that roster wouldn't won 25 games last yr.

I want nothing more then to play the heat in the 1st or 2nd round..NY and Heat in the playoffs,

Bron, wade, bosh, melo, amare, lin, 1st seed meets 8th seed...pricless

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3/23/2012  8:19 AM
RoyBatty wrote:Just some devil's advocate thinking.

Wouldn't it be better if we met Miami or the Heat in the first round. The deeper into the playoffs the higher the chance we lose JJ or BDiddy to injuries again. So I'd rather meet these two teams when we have our full complement (on the assumption that JJ is ready for the playoffs) and they don't fully know what to expect (since Woodson will likely put in a couple of new plays) while we already know how the Heat and Bulls work, rather than later.

Just a thought.

You need to take health issues into consideration. Melo just got back, and does not look like he's playing anywhere near 100%. Jeremy Lin can play for long, but his defense still needs a bit work so if you play him too long, he might be drained for next game. Baron Davis cannot help him on this but could only lighten the load for 10 minutes or so. Amar'e is getting back to old form and hopefully stays this way. If we face Bulls or Heat or Magic, we might be in trouble even if we win the first of 5. The only thing we got is a stronger bench than all 3 teams. If we drain our bench as well, we might be saying good bye to second round. I personally think if we get to #5 or #4 seed, with a bit luck, we will be able to handle second round better. I'm kinda glad Woodson is rotating players heavily throughout his interim coaching. Keep our starters legs fresh for playoffs.

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3/23/2012  9:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/23/2012  9:29 AM
Its nice to be able to at least talk some trash again with friends who are fans of other teams, like the Bulls. Haven't won anything yet, but the notion of the Knicks contending doesn't seem so preposterous anymore.
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3/23/2012  10:05 AM
JamesLin wrote:
RoyBatty wrote:Just some devil's advocate thinking.

Wouldn't it be better if we met Miami or the Heat in the first round. The deeper into the playoffs the higher the chance we lose JJ or BDiddy to injuries again. So I'd rather meet these two teams when we have our full complement (on the assumption that JJ is ready for the playoffs) and they don't fully know what to expect (since Woodson will likely put in a couple of new plays) while we already know how the Heat and Bulls work, rather than later.

Just a thought.

You need to take health issues into consideration. Melo just got back, and does not look like he's playing anywhere near 100%. Jeremy Lin can play for long, but his defense still needs a bit work so if you play him too long, he might be drained for next game. Baron Davis cannot help him on this but could only lighten the load for 10 minutes or so. Amar'e is getting back to old form and hopefully stays this way. If we face Bulls or Heat or Magic, we might be in trouble even if we win the first of 5. The only thing we got is a stronger bench than all 3 teams. If we drain our bench as well, we might be saying good bye to second round. I personally think if we get to #5 or #4 seed, with a bit luck, we will be able to handle second round better. I'm kinda glad Woodson is rotating players heavily throughout his interim coaching. Keep our starters legs fresh for playoffs.

Agreed, we gotta get out of the 7th or 8th seed at all costs. By the way, the playoff format is now 7 game series now, even in the first round.

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3/25/2012  11:02 PM
FeltonandAmare wrote:Collins: CHI, MIA don't want to see NYK
March, 21, 2012
Mar 21 9:02 PM ET

By Ian Begley

Make no mistake, the Knicks are going to do whatever they can over the final 20 games of the season to avoid facing Chicago and Miami in the playoffs.

But if they do end up in the bottom of the playoff picture and are forced to face the Bulls or Heat, Doug Collins believes the higher seed won't necessarily be happy.

"When you start looking at it, the cream of the crop is Miami and Chicago and I guarantee you Miami and Chicago sure doesn’t want to see the New York Knicks at 7 or 8, I can tell you that," the Sixers coach said before tip-off of the Knicks-Sixers game on Wednesday.

Entering play Wednesday, the Knicks had won four straight and were a half-game ahead of Milwaukee for the eighth and final playoff spot in the East. They were four games behind Philadelphia for first place in the Atlantic Division and four games back of Atlanta for sixth place in the division.

"There are teams out there saying, I don’t want to play that team," Collins said of the Knicks. "They’re loaded. You look at their frontlline, you’ve got shot blocking in Tyson Chandler, and you’ve got Amare (Stoudemire) and Carmelo (Anthony), and you’ve got Jeremy Lin now playing, and you’ve got guys coming off the bench."

The Sixers blew the Knicks out at Madison Square Garden on March 11. New York trailed by as many as 21 points in the second half of Philly's 106-94 loss. Afterward, then-head coach Mike D'Antoni said that his team didn't have the heart to comeback against Philadelphia.

According Collins, plenty has changed for the Knicks since that Sunday afternoon in Madison Square Garden.

"What I’m seeing is more energy, more tenacity," Collins said before Wednesday's game. "I'm seeing guys up the floor defending, I'm seeing trapping at half court."

Indeed, the Knicks have relied on defense to win each of their four games since Mike Woodson took over as interim head coach. They held opponents to 39 percent shooting in Woodson's first three games on the bench and out rebounded Toronto, 16-4, on the offensive glass in Tuesday's win.

"Woody's teams always played good defense in Atlanta, they always did. So I would expect for him to put those kind of demands on them," Collins said. "When they defend, they can score, there’s no question about that."

I respect D.Collins as a player with Dr J 76ers and as a coach he can coach my team anytime

However one should not get ahead of themselves. He says the obvious when NY defends the fact is they can do alot
but to cite HEAT or BULLs dont want to see Knicks is absurd,

These things perhaps posted by the news columnist to show some respect to NY by teams noticing the changes in Knicks

All in all both Chicago and Miami know how to beat Knicks,
despite the road be harder for BULLs if Derrick Rose aint 100% fact of matter only 1 person can beat them with
Knicks team is Carmelo Anthony and unless he gets his late act together there is NO way Amare or J.Lin are even
beating HEAT or BULLs at end of games even if NY plays well defensively

Stars win those tight playoff games, calls from refs are different. Lin and Amare can lead the knicks
But only MELO can make a difference in a game win OR playoff series & everyone on this forum board knows it!

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3/26/2012  6:36 AM
TripleThreat wrote:If any team in the NBA, in the first round, faces

- The Clippers
- The Bulls
- The Thunder
- The Heat

They will lose. Doesn't matter how well they play, they will lose. Advertisers and sponsors and the NBA has made a huge investment in the Rose, Griffin, Durant, Paul and James/Wade brands. These are the teams Stern has anointed as contenders who his refs will cheat for and whom he thinks will draw the biggest ratings.

If the Knicks face any of these teams, the Knicks will lose in the max number of games possible. If the Knicks face any other team, the refs are on their side. Jeremy Lin brings a HUGE audience to the NBA playoffs. Any series he is in becomes the highest rated NBA playoffs in the world. Stern will not miss out on that. Stern would probably like Lin and the Knicks to win one series, then lose the second at the max number of games. This helps builds the Lin hype for the long haul and still promotes the teams he has anointed already.

The Heat will probably win this year. A ring will push the James brand over the top, which is profit for the NBA, but the short season will asterisk it, which is what Stern wants, to split up that super team. Next in line will be Rose or Griffin. The Knicks can contend in 3 years, if , if Lin continues to be a major brand and generates a giant international audience.

It doesn't matter how talented your team is if the game is 8 on 5 ( 3 refs plus your squad versus another team that can't make Stern as much money)

The Knicks contention possibilities ride on Lin's marketing possibilities. No more and no less than Jordan's rings were dependent on ref help/non interference because Stern saw the dollar signs.

Funny nobody is answering to this. Is it because we dont want to see that the NBA is in a way not that different to WWF? A big circus thats here for making money first, and sports second?

As a sidenote, I noticed the constant Knicks bashing has vanished the moment MDA left. Suddenly all the "experts" seem to like the Knicks. Is it because noone likes MDA? Is it because everybody likes Woodson? Or is it because the inherent laws of nature (NBA) had been inforced and the strong (Melo) extinct the weak (MDA)?

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3/26/2012  8:34 AM
SteveSmith wrote:
TripleThreat wrote:If any team in the NBA, in the first round, faces

- The Clippers
- The Bulls
- The Thunder
- The Heat

They will lose. Doesn't matter how well they play, they will lose. Advertisers and sponsors and the NBA has made a huge investment in the Rose, Griffin, Durant, Paul and James/Wade brands. These are the teams Stern has anointed as contenders who his refs will cheat for and whom he thinks will draw the biggest ratings.

If the Knicks face any of these teams, the Knicks will lose in the max number of games possible. If the Knicks face any other team, the refs are on their side. Jeremy Lin brings a HUGE audience to the NBA playoffs. Any series he is in becomes the highest rated NBA playoffs in the world. Stern will not miss out on that. Stern would probably like Lin and the Knicks to win one series, then lose the second at the max number of games. This helps builds the Lin hype for the long haul and still promotes the teams he has anointed already.

The Heat will probably win this year. A ring will push the James brand over the top, which is profit for the NBA, but the short season will asterisk it, which is what Stern wants, to split up that super team. Next in line will be Rose or Griffin. The Knicks can contend in 3 years, if , if Lin continues to be a major brand and generates a giant international audience.

It doesn't matter how talented your team is if the game is 8 on 5 ( 3 refs plus your squad versus another team that can't make Stern as much money)

The Knicks contention possibilities ride on Lin's marketing possibilities. No more and no less than Jordan's rings were dependent on ref help/non interference because Stern saw the dollar signs.

Funny nobody is answering to this. Is it because we dont want to see that the NBA is in a way not that different to WWF? A big circus thats here for making money first, and sports second?

As a sidenote, I noticed the constant Knicks bashing has vanished the moment MDA left. Suddenly all the "experts" seem to like the Knicks. Is it because noone likes MDA? Is it because everybody likes Woodson? Or is it because the inherent laws of nature (NBA) had been inforced and the strong (Melo) extinct the weak (MDA)?

Nobody will respond to it because it blows the delusion up.

Yea, NBA is influenced.

It's why you have to keep in mind that it is entertainment and do not get too tangled!

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3/26/2012  9:24 AM
I dont get all your baseball analogies, but as sad as it is: I think your pretty much spot on.

A55hole Stern or stupid fans? I guess some of both

And now: shut up and let us enjoy the beautiful game of basketball unbiased! Go Knicks, beat them Bucks!

Chicago and Miami are worried!

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