mrKnickShot wrote:Nixluva, the second article by Dave from wagesofwins (very famous writer and site ) is cute. Who the hell are these guys and why are they only comparing him to Lebron? I coulda told them not to waste their time comparing the two. Lebron is much better but just the article should be flattering enough to Melo.

Here is another article from them wagesofwins saying that Kobe can learn from Melo to be less selfish (and they both are inefficient scorers - SMFH):
http://wagesofwins.com/tag/carmelo-anthony/

This is a really good one:
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/is-melo-mad-that-amare-stole-his-playbook/
As the Nuggets are doing well without Melo and the Knicks are doing poorly with him, the blame seems to be pointing at Melo. The truth is that Melo is actually playing at an above average level in New York. The real person that both New Yorkers and Melo should be mad at is Amaré Stoudemire, and it turns out he is beating Melo at his own game.
Amaré tricks people into thinking he’s good by shooting a lot

The Espn article you posted, did you by any chance catch this?

It's worth noting that as Anthony has been a fairly inefficient scorer in Denver all these years, the team has averaged an impressive 48 wins per season, after winning just 17 the season before he arrived. (Worth noting that the Lakers have been winning plenty with another "inefficient" player in Bryant.) There's also another statistic befuddling the idea that Anthony's teams can't win: One. As in, the number of NCAA championships he won in a single year at Syracuse.

At least it was worth noting.

Anyway ...

A NY TIMES article stating that you need to dig deeper than simply looking at advanced stats when judging Carmelo Anthony and that he is the ultimate team player (just continuing your trend of digging deeper than stats)

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/why-carmelo-anthony-is-the-ultimate-team-player-and-what-advanced-stats-miss-about-him/?ref=sports

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:Nixluva, the second article by Dave from wagesofwins (very famous writer and site ) is cute. Who the hell are these guys and why are they only comparing him to Lebron? I coulda told them not to waste their time comparing the two. Lebron is much better but just the article should be flattering enough to Melo.

Here is another article from them wagesofwins saying that Kobe can learn from Melo to be less selfish (and they both are inefficient scorers - SMFH):
http://wagesofwins.com/tag/carmelo-anthony/

This is a really good one:
http://wagesofwins.com/2012/01/18/is-melo-mad-that-amare-stole-his-playbook/
As the Nuggets are doing well without Melo and the Knicks are doing poorly with him, the blame seems to be pointing at Melo. The truth is that Melo is actually playing at an above average level in New York. The real person that both New Yorkers and Melo should be mad at is Amaré Stoudemire, and it turns out he is beating Melo at his own game.
Amaré tricks people into thinking he’s good by shooting a lot

The Espn article you posted, did you by any chance catch this?

It's worth noting that as Anthony has been a fairly inefficient scorer in Denver all these years, the team has averaged an impressive 48 wins per season, after winning just 17 the season before he arrived. (Worth noting that the Lakers have been winning plenty with another "inefficient" player in Bryant.) There's also another statistic befuddling the idea that Anthony's teams can't win: One. As in, the number of NCAA championships he won in a single year at Syracuse.

At least it was worth noting.

Anyway ...

A NY TIMES article stating that you need to dig deeper than simply looking at advanced stats when judging Carmelo Anthony and that he is the ultimate team player (just continuing your trend of digging deeper than stats)

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/15/why-carmelo-anthony-is-the-ultimate-team-player-and-what-advanced-stats-miss-about-him/?ref=sports

The problem with that analysis is that the improvement is more traceable to the Nuggets offensive system than to Carmelo Anthony. It was posted last year that those players shooting percentages were actually higher with Melo on the bench than in the game! (The note at the bottom of the chart indicates that the percentages are including minutes where Anthony is on the bench, which is ridiculous. And now we're seeing with our own eyes that he doesn't make teammates better.)

BTW, Dave Berri does the wins produced statistic which is completely different from win shares. I'm not sure if you were getting them confused when you said "familiar site." I used to get them confused. In statistical circles, Berri's not well-respected and this sloppy analysis is one more example of why he shouldn't be.

Bonn1997 wrote:
Whatever. I'm not going to address inferior statistics. Melo's regular season play didn't impress me in Denver and his teams perennially lost in the first round. What's happened here is what I expected. I hope he'll stop proving me right because it sucks to have no NBA team to be excited about.

Negative bashing.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
Whatever. I'm not going to address inferior statistics. Melo's regular season play didn't impress me in Denver and his teams perennially lost in the first round. What's happened here is what I expected. I hope he'll stop proving me right because it sucks to have no NBA team to be excited about.

Negative bashing.

Bonn1997 wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:
Whatever. I'm not going to address inferior statistics. Melo's regular season play didn't impress me in Denver and his teams perennially lost in the first round. What's happened here is what I expected. I hope he'll stop proving me right because it sucks to have no NBA team to be excited about.

Negative bashing.

Wrong again.

Bashing = prejudicial attack on a person, group or subject

This is your life.

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:This is all just small sample size nonsense. You're talking about a total of 44 shots! It's crazy to reach conclusions about a player based on a sample of 44 shots. There's also a misconception that baskets in the final few seconds are more important than baskets throughout the rest of the game.

riiiiight. i'm sure everyone would hit 47% of late game shots with defenses keying on them as the number one option.

You may be sure of that but I am not and never said I was.

you're saying it's all small sample size. let's see what every other player in the league shoots with late game defenses keying on them in late game situations over 44 shots. i'd really love to see it. because that whole chart is small sample sizes and melo is number 1 in the league.

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:This is all just small sample size nonsense. You're talking about a total of 44 shots! It's crazy to reach conclusions about a player based on a sample of 44 shots. There's also a misconception that baskets in the final few seconds are more important than baskets throughout the rest of the game.

riiiiight. i'm sure everyone would hit 47% of late game shots with defenses keying on them as the number one option.

You may be sure of that but I am not and never said I was.

you're saying it's all small sample size. let's see what every other player in the league shoots with late game defenses keying on them in late game situations over 44 shots. i'd really love to see it. because that whole chart is small sample sizes and melo is number 1 in the league.

Why? Looking at a sample of 44 shots is boring

looking at who has shot the best in late game situations over the past ten years in the nba is boring to you? LOL. why do you even bother watching then.

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:This is all just small sample size nonsense. You're talking about a total of 44 shots! It's crazy to reach conclusions about a player based on a sample of 44 shots. There's also a misconception that baskets in the final few seconds are more important than baskets throughout the rest of the game.

riiiiight. i'm sure everyone would hit 47% of late game shots with defenses keying on them as the number one option.

You may be sure of that but I am not and never said I was.

you're saying it's all small sample size. let's see what every other player in the league shoots with late game defenses keying on them in late game situations over 44 shots. i'd really love to see it. because that whole chart is small sample sizes and melo is number 1 in the league.

Why? Looking at a sample of 44 shots is boring

looking at who has shot the best in late game situations over the past ten years in the nba is boring to you? LOL. why do you even bother watching then.

because the game is exciting.

are late game shots exciting? i wonder who has shot the best percentage at those exciting late game shots?

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:This is all just small sample size nonsense. You're talking about a total of 44 shots! It's crazy to reach conclusions about a player based on a sample of 44 shots. There's also a misconception that baskets in the final few seconds are more important than baskets throughout the rest of the game.

riiiiight. i'm sure everyone would hit 47% of late game shots with defenses keying on them as the number one option.

You may be sure of that but I am not and never said I was.

you're saying it's all small sample size. let's see what every other player in the league shoots with late game defenses keying on them in late game situations over 44 shots. i'd really love to see it. because that whole chart is small sample sizes and melo is number 1 in the league.

Why? Looking at a sample of 44 shots is boring

looking at who has shot the best in late game situations over the past ten years in the nba is boring to you? LOL. why do you even bother watching then.

because the game is exciting.

are late game shots exciting? i wonder who has shot the best percentage at those exciting late game shots?

mrKnickShot wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:This is all just small sample size nonsense. You're talking about a total of 44 shots! It's crazy to reach conclusions about a player based on a sample of 44 shots. There's also a misconception that baskets in the final few seconds are more important than baskets throughout the rest of the game.

riiiiight. i'm sure everyone would hit 47% of late game shots with defenses keying on them as the number one option.

You may be sure of that but I am not and never said I was.

you're saying it's all small sample size. let's see what every other player in the league shoots with late game defenses keying on them in late game situations over 44 shots. i'd really love to see it. because that whole chart is small sample sizes and melo is number 1 in the league.

Why? Looking at a sample of 44 shots is boring

Way to respond! LOL