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nixluva
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3/15/2012  12:42 AM
I look forward to this team hopefully coming together. They seemed to bond tonight in a way that they really need in order to get that playoff birth and actually do something in the playoffs. The road ahead is tough, but they have the talent to actually win games and if they get in the playoffs make some noise.

I'm actually curious to see how Woodson takes advantage of this chance. He's got very little time, but he also inherits a team that only needs to fix the effort level issues. He won't have to reinvent the wheel here. He just needs to tweak some things and as he says hold players accountable. I wonder what that will look like when we play good teams. Will he be able to make the right calls in crunchtime? Will he be able to hold this team together when things go wrong? It's gonna interesting to see. He could secure his job with a great run.

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3/15/2012  12:46 AM
tkf wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
tkf wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:I will look forward to following the team D'Antoni is coaching next year. His Suns were a blast and Knicks could have had something similar if the owner was not so impulsive. I love the way D'Antoni wants to play and I think he will have no trouble implementing this system on some team where ownership and management will work with him.

I will look forward to Carmelo getting his wish and the Knicks moving forward with isolation basketball. Always I have maintained that it will be either D'Antoni or Carmelo, that they cannot coexist, and that the franchise must choose between team basketball or Carmelo isolation; the franchise has chosen.

I will look forward to following Danilo Gallinari in his career but I will not look forward to crying myself to sleep after watching Nuggets games; it is hard to forget what our Knicks could have been with Gallinari, Amar'e, and a point guard.

Now some predictions: Knicks finish below .500 this year, win 46 games next year. Never advance past First Round during Carmelo's big fat contract. D'Antoni reaches Finals before Knicks.

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3/15/2012  10:14 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:I will look forward to following the team D'Antoni is coaching next year. His Suns were a blast and Knicks could have had something similar if the owner was not so impulsive. I love the way D'Antoni wants to play and I think he will have no trouble implementing this system on some team where ownership and management will work with him.

I will look forward to Carmelo getting his wish and the Knicks moving forward with isolation basketball. Always I have maintained that it will be either D'Antoni or Carmelo, that they cannot coexist, and that the franchise must choose between team basketball or Carmelo isolation; the franchise has chosen.

I will look forward to following Danilo Gallinari in his career but I will not look forward to crying myself to sleep after watching Nuggets games; it is hard to forget what our Knicks could have been with Gallinari, Amar'e, and a point guard.

Now some predictions: Knicks finish below .500 this year, win 46 games next year. Never advance past First Round during Carmelo's big fat contract. D'Antoni reaches Finals before Knicks.

Ahh how sweeeeet! Im getting emotional. ok ok Im going to cry now... G T F O H

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3/15/2012  10:32 AM
I'm lookin forward to you posting exclusively on another messageboard next season
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3/15/2012  11:44 AM
You know SC, and this is not "hyperbole" that you seem to attribute to anyone who disagrees --

The Knicks for a major market team (NY, LA, Chicago, Boston) clearly suck (and it is the biggest market of the four). And the reason?? Fans like yourself who don't know caca, but believe they're the smartest dude north of Battery Park.

Again, mark my words. The Knicks will be a below .500 team for the next three years unless there is another coaching change or both Melo and Stat leave for other teams. And they probably will lose Lin at the end of the season.

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm lookin forward to you posting exclusively on another messageboard next season
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3/15/2012  11:48 AM
nehemiah wrote:And the reason?? Fans like yourself who don't know caca, but believe they're the smartest dude north of Battery Park.

more hyperbole

Again, mark my words. The Knicks will be a below .500 team for the next three years unless there is another coaching change or both Melo and Stat leave for other teams. And they probably will lose Lin at the end of the season.

don't worry, I will

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3/15/2012  11:54 AM
nehemiah wrote:You know SC, and this is not "hyperbole" that you seem to attribute to anyone who disagrees --

The Knicks for a major market team (NY, LA, Chicago, Boston) clearly suck (and it is the biggest market of the four). And the reason?? Fans like yourself who don't know caca, but believe they're the smartest dude north of Battery Park.

Again, mark my words. The Knicks will be a below .500 team for the next three years unless there is another coaching change or both Melo and Stat leave for other teams. And they probably will lose Lin at the end of the season.

SupremeCommander wrote:I'm lookin forward to you posting exclusively on another messageboard next season

yea, when you back guys like melo, and that type of behavior, you are doomed to fail... I guess for some fans, watching melo jack up shots while the knicks win 42 games a year is good enough for them.. well after 35 years of rooting for this team, I have set my standards high.. i want more... unfortunately, this organization never learns..

it is amazing teams like the pacers and sixers can put together a good team without so called "star" players, while we have chubby and declining stars sucking the life force out of this organization!!!

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/15/2012  11:57 AM
And from the last 10+ years, I know how it works -- there will be reason after reason given after each loss (because in each loss, there are multiple areas of blame -- from Tyson's wrist to Lin's TO to MDA lack of timeouts, etc.)

But I doubt I'll see comments from you like, "Maybe I was overjazzed about the Woodson/Melo thing" (after Melo keeps shucking it about 40-45% and continued subpar seasons). Don't worry though SC, there are millions of people like you in the world -- and how ideal is it in your world?

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3/15/2012  12:18 PM
you are one hostile dude
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3/15/2012  12:20 PM
nehemiah wrote:And from the last 10+ years, I know how it works -- there will be reason after reason given after each loss (because in each loss, there are multiple areas of blame -- from Tyson's wrist to Lin's TO to MDA lack of timeouts, etc.)

But I doubt I'll see comments from you like, "Maybe I was overjazzed about the Woodson/Melo thing" (after Melo keeps shucking it about 40-45% and continued subpar seasons). Don't worry though SC, there are millions of people like you in the world -- and how ideal is it in your world?

Come say it with me Nehemiah...WOOO SAHHHH WOOOO SAAHHH

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3/15/2012  1:41 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:I'm lookin forward to you posting exclusively on another messageboard next season

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3/16/2012  6:22 AM
Nice! Woodson already has his Just for Men emoticon! We're ahead of times, guys!
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3/16/2012  2:33 PM
I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.
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3/16/2012  2:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

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3/16/2012  2:53 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

I think D'Antoni had tremendous support from Walsh for his first three years and I think they were on the same page. Dolan obviously wanted two superstars very badly and pushed the Melo trade through. Up until then I think everyone was on the same page. Grunwald has interim status so I don't think he was going to stick his neck out like Walsh.
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3/16/2012  3:12 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

I think D'Antoni had tremendous support from Walsh for his first three years and I think they were on the same page. Dolan obviously wanted two superstars very badly and pushed the Melo trade through. Up until then I think everyone was on the same page. Grunwald has interim status so I don't think he was going to stick his neck out like Walsh.

You're confusing the situation. I don't know what it's gonna take for you to actually recognize what everyone else has long accepted. The Knicks weren't really doing everything they could to win in MDA's 1st 2 years. They weren't looking for legit solutions to the roster issues, they were gearing down for the Summer of Lebron. I mean at least be honest when posting about the situation MDA was in for much of his time here. The 1st 2 years were nothing more than a draw down to 2010.

I can guarantee you that MDA will not be in a similar situation again. Things didn't work out here with this Organization but MDA will be a good option for another franchise looking for an identity and direction and to play good TEAM BB.

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3/16/2012  3:35 PM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

I think D'Antoni had tremendous support from Walsh for his first three years and I think they were on the same page. Dolan obviously wanted two superstars very badly and pushed the Melo trade through. Up until then I think everyone was on the same page. Grunwald has interim status so I don't think he was going to stick his neck out like Walsh.

You're confusing the situation. I don't know what it's gonna take for you to actually recognize what everyone else has long accepted. The Knicks weren't really doing everything they could to win in MDA's 1st 2 years. They weren't looking for legit solutions to the roster issues, they were gearing down for the Summer of Lebron. I mean at least be honest when posting about the situation MDA was in for much of his time here. The 1st 2 years were nothing more than a draw down to 2010.

I can guarantee you that MDA will not be in a similar situation again. Things didn't work out here with this Organization but MDA will be a good option for another franchise looking for an identity and direction and to play good TEAM BB.


I am not confusing things but as you said in another post I am a fan of this team not a coach. I never thought the Knicks could win with D'Antoni and thought the hire was a mistake. We have rehashed our opinions on how he handled the first two years and we disagree on a lot of things. Personally I think he should have been let go after the 09-10 season for the reasons I have posted many times. I personally do not see D'Antoni getting a job anytime soon but I could be way off on that. I am not wishing the man any ill will just glad that he isn't the guy in charge of the team that I root for anymore.
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3/16/2012  11:33 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:I will look forward to following the team D'Antoni is coaching next year. His Suns were a blast and Knicks could have had something similar if the owner was not so impulsive. I love the way D'Antoni wants to play and I think he will have no trouble implementing this system on some team where ownership and management will work with him.

I will look forward to Carmelo getting his wish and the Knicks moving forward with isolation basketball. Always I have maintained that it will be either D'Antoni or Carmelo, that they cannot coexist, and that the franchise must choose between team basketball or Carmelo isolation; the franchise has chosen.

I will look forward to following Danilo Gallinari in his career but I will not look forward to crying myself to sleep after watching Nuggets games; it is hard to forget what our Knicks could have been with Gallinari, Amar'e, and a point guard.

Now some predictions: Knicks finish below .500 this year, win 46 games next year. Never advance past First Round during Carmelo's big fat contract. D'Antoni reaches Finals before Knicks.

I'm sure you didn't believe these words would come back to haunt you this fast! Of course haters are incapable of making accurate predictions since their predictions are based on hate and emotion rather than pure logic. MDA made his own grave and then decided to lay in it! Just like you created these words which will continue to come back and haunt you!

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3/16/2012  11:41 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

I think D'Antoni had tremendous support from Walsh for his first three years and I think they were on the same page. Dolan obviously wanted two superstars very badly and pushed the Melo trade through. Up until then I think everyone was on the same page. Grunwald has interim status so I don't think he was going to stick his neck out like Walsh.

You're confusing the situation. I don't know what it's gonna take for you to actually recognize what everyone else has long accepted. The Knicks weren't really doing everything they could to win in MDA's 1st 2 years. They weren't looking for legit solutions to the roster issues, they were gearing down for the Summer of Lebron. I mean at least be honest when posting about the situation MDA was in for much of his time here. The 1st 2 years were nothing more than a draw down to 2010.

I can guarantee you that MDA will not be in a similar situation again. Things didn't work out here with this Organization but MDA will be a good option for another franchise looking for an identity and direction and to play good TEAM BB.


I am not confusing things but as you said in another post I am a fan of this team not a coach. I never thought the Knicks could win with D'Antoni and thought the hire was a mistake. We have rehashed our opinions on how he handled the first two years and we disagree on a lot of things. Personally I think he should have been let go after the 09-10 season for the reasons I have posted many times. I personally do not see D'Antoni getting a job anytime soon but I could be way off on that. I am not wishing the man any ill will just glad that he isn't the guy in charge of the team that I root for anymore.

It's OK to have a bias against MDA. All he was trying to do is get the team to play like they've played the last 2 games. Nothing has really changed except that STAT and Melo are giving a Max effort and the drama has been removed that was hurting the team. This team could've been playing like this the previous 6 losses. It's not like they went and changed up everything they were doing. This is all about effort and the lack of it in the previous 6 losses. We never saw STAT and Melo play with this much effort in the 1st and 3rd qtr. of games!!! What was MDA asking but for Melo to buy in and now look at him! He's catching and shooting and defending like he always should have been. All this did was prove he was not giving his all. Even if it was more subconscious than deliberate. STAT and Melo have played harder the last 2 games. That's been the key difference.

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3/17/2012  12:52 AM
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I am looking forward to the Woodson era. I also am looking forward to seeing what team takes the plunge and embraces the 'system' coach and how long it takes before he has a job again. I will definitely follow his team and I don't anticipate another run of 3+years being given to him to get his offense going.

I don't anticipate anything like that either, because that's not what he got here anyway.

I think he will step into a situation where the management, ownership, and the coaching staff will be on the same page and this will be a good opportunity for him to strengthen his legacy by applying the lessons from New York into his already successful, battle-tested approach.

I am looking forward to Woodson coaching Melo, but I see Knicks burning through at least two more coaches before Melo's time as a Knicks player is done.

I think D'Antoni had tremendous support from Walsh for his first three years and I think they were on the same page. Dolan obviously wanted two superstars very badly and pushed the Melo trade through. Up until then I think everyone was on the same page. Grunwald has interim status so I don't think he was going to stick his neck out like Walsh.

You're confusing the situation. I don't know what it's gonna take for you to actually recognize what everyone else has long accepted. The Knicks weren't really doing everything they could to win in MDA's 1st 2 years. They weren't looking for legit solutions to the roster issues, they were gearing down for the Summer of Lebron. I mean at least be honest when posting about the situation MDA was in for much of his time here. The 1st 2 years were nothing more than a draw down to 2010.

I can guarantee you that MDA will not be in a similar situation again. Things didn't work out here with this Organization but MDA will be a good option for another franchise looking for an identity and direction and to play good TEAM BB.


I am not confusing things but as you said in another post I am a fan of this team not a coach. I never thought the Knicks could win with D'Antoni and thought the hire was a mistake. We have rehashed our opinions on how he handled the first two years and we disagree on a lot of things. Personally I think he should have been let go after the 09-10 season for the reasons I have posted many times. I personally do not see D'Antoni getting a job anytime soon but I could be way off on that. I am not wishing the man any ill will just glad that he isn't the guy in charge of the team that I root for anymore.

It's OK to have a bias against MDA. All he was trying to do is get the team to play like they've played the last 2 games. Nothing has really changed except that STAT and Melo are giving a Max effort and the drama has been removed that was hurting the team. This team could've been playing like this the previous 6 losses. It's not like they went and changed up everything they were doing. This is all about effort and the lack of it in the previous 6 losses. We never saw STAT and Melo play with this much effort in the 1st and 3rd qtr. of games!!! What was MDA asking but for Melo to buy in and now look at him! He's catching and shooting and defending like he always should have been. All this did was prove he was not giving his all. Even if it was more subconscious than deliberate. STAT and Melo have played harder the last 2 games. That's been the key difference.

I didn't like the hire and never thought he could win based on what I knew about his style, preperation and commitment to a system. If you want to call an educated opinion biased be my guest. Nothing he did over 4 years changed my opinion. In the past I have been very negative about trades (i.e. Oak for Camby, Starks and Cummings for Spree) and later found that the new guys were my favorite players. However those guys worked hard and won.
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