TymeLessKnicks wrote:Teams that fire their coach in-season don't win championships.

Damn!! We were so damn close!

TymeLessKnicks wrote:Teams that fire their coach in-season don't win championships.

TymeLessKnicks wrote:Teams that fire their coach in-season don't win championships.

MAybe you are right but 1999 was close.

ChuckBuck wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:Goodbye..you will not be missed by me. Besides Linsanity your teams never overachieved or out worked other teams. Lets get a coach in here that practices hard and gets his team to play hard from jump for 48 minutes ala Doug Collins. That roster is the same roster that underachieved with a different coach. Coaches matter. Don't care what anyone says.

Why is it so hard for other people to see this?

So are we to expect that STAT and Melo will now defend and board harder under Woodson? Why did the team defend at a high level minus those guys? Why do our defensive stats go down with Melo on the floor? It's not just about a coach yelling or demanding things. This is a fallacy. This team has a lot of issues and they don't all get solved with a coaching change. Tho i'd be happy if it did.

ChuckBuck wrote:

nixluva wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:Goodbye..you will not be missed by me. Besides Linsanity your teams never overachieved or out worked other teams. Lets get a coach in here that practices hard and gets his team to play hard from jump for 48 minutes ala Doug Collins. That roster is the same roster that underachieved with a different coach. Coaches matter. Don't care what anyone says.

Why is it so hard for other people to see this?

So are we to expect that STAT and Melo will now defend and board harder under Woodson? Why did the team defend at a high level minus those guys? Why do our defensive stats go down with Melo on the floor? It's not just about a coach yelling or demanding things. This is a fallacy. This team has a lot of issues and they don't all get solved with a coaching change. Tho i'd be happy if it did.

It's not like D'Antoni preached defense anyways, there's a reason they brought in Woodson. Not saying the results will be significantly better, but under Woodson in can't get worse.

It seemed to get a lot worse with him here recently anyway. What's the real diff now?

MinsHeartsReezy wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

FoeDiddy wrote:Goodbye..you will not be missed by me. Besides Linsanity your teams never overachieved or out worked other teams. Lets get a coach in here that practices hard and gets his team to play hard from jump for 48 minutes ala Doug Collins. That roster is the same roster that underachieved with a different coach. Coaches matter. Don't care what anyone says.

Why is it so hard for other people to see this?

Coaches do matter, but the responsibility for the bad performance can't be placed solely on MDA. The accountability for this season needs to be shared by every single player on the team including the coaching staff.

As the saying goes, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Coaching can only go so far if the players are not willing to buy in and play as a team and implement the philosophy being taught. You can't make anyone do anything they are unwilling to do without the proper authority and making it known there is something to be lost. I've done quite a bit of teaching so I know how this works. MDA clearly had no authority regarding the personnel and to what extent he could reward or punish (benching) his players.

Frankly, MDA leaving will do nothing to fix this situation, but I respect both him and Donnie for leaving on their own terms. I wouldn't want to remain in a situation where it was my job lead a group of people if my efforts and authority were constantly being undermined. You end up with none of the respect and most of the blame. AND THANK YOU COACH MIKE FOR NOT AIRING OUT EVERY DAMN BIT OF DISCONTENT, AND NOT FALLING INTO THE TRAPS THE REPORTERS SET. THANK YOU FOR NOT ADDING TO THE DRAMA. Larry Brown did more than enough of that bs.

This year and last we finally had a chance to see some exciting ball in NY if only in spurts due to personnel roulette/lockouts etc. but those short streaks were fun while the lasted, if not a glimpse of what could have been if all the pieces had fallen in place.

Good luck Mike! I hope you find a position on a team that's willing to play your game, where you'll be allowed to be a Coach without the meddling.

Take a look at the first half effort tonight...where was that during the losing streak?

gunsnewing wrote:Dantoni's biggest flaw...Encouraging Fields, jeffries, td, walker, Jorts to keep shooting and alienating Amare & Melo!

He's my boy, but remember the Shumpert chucking 20 shots against Memphis game. A rookie "point guard" out-shooting Amare and Melo without so much as a word from D'Antoni. D'Anton's a players coach, an enabler basically, just couldn't say No to him...

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Dantoni's biggest flaw...Encouraging Fields, jeffries, td, walker, Jorts to keep shooting and alienating Amare & Melo!

He's my boy, but remember the Shumpert chucking 20 shots against Memphis game. A rookie "point guard" out-shooting Amare and Melo without so much as a word from D'Antoni. D'Anton's a players coach, an enabler basically, just couldn't say No to him...

um, you mean the game melo barely played in because of injury? i would hope shumpert took more shots than him.

If you watched that game..they weren't 20 shots within the flow of the offense..he was forcing bad shot after bad shot.

ChuckBuck wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:Dantoni's biggest flaw...Encouraging Fields, jeffries, td, walker, Jorts to keep shooting and alienating Amare & Melo!

He's my boy, but remember the Shumpert chucking 20 shots against Memphis game. A rookie "point guard" out-shooting Amare and Melo without so much as a word from D'Antoni. D'Anton's a players coach, an enabler basically, just couldn't say No to him...

um, you mean the game melo barely played in because of injury? i would hope shumpert took more shots than him.

Nah, Melo and Amare both played 20 minutes, they just got blown out to kingdom come so they sat, but during the time the starters played, Shumpert had 15 shots in the first half alone. No intervention or anything by MDA. Well a little, because Shumps only had 5 shots in the 2nd half LOL.

Funny how people forget that when Douglass was played before being sent to exile, he was leading the league in 3 point attempts at a whopping 26 percent.

PHILOSOPHY!

Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot Just shoot

Said in every huddle.