ramtour420 wrote:

Rookie wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

Rookie wrote:wow, bermen managed to make national headlines two days in a row. Can't wait for tomorrow to see what he writes next

my money is on him having an unnamed source who can identify JFK's true assassin

k...got his source now...bermen always writes "According to a source familiar with the situation" ...k, so that's that guy from Jersey Shore...and it's someone close to him so...his source is Snookie!

Rofl, almost spilled my coffee

according to sources close to the situation...bermen is father of the Jersey spore...Snookie's love child

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Maybe we need a 10 game stretch where MDA takes some time off.

See how the team does.

Then we see who goes?

We got samples with and without Melo.

Don't worry. MDA will be in Portland next year.

So a 121 and 167 is not a big enough sample size for MDA?

I hear you and we can debate this all day long.

I really don't feel the roster stability was ever there.

If you had buy in with those players, MDA could have done better.

The first two years to me are throw away years. Sure mistakes are made, but all teams make them.

Team under walsh was to open space for Lebron.

Dolan is like a kid who is given money to go buy their favorite toy. When at the toy store he finds the toy is sold out. Rather than wait for a new shipment, he has to buy a toy that day. In a few weeks, he regrets not having the toy he really wanted.

Melo is not Lebron but he paid max money for Melo.

Back to your question about sample size being enough? I just think he did a lousy job with a lousy team.

Take out the first 13 games last year and the last few weeks when Gallo-Mozzy-Felton-Chandler were kind of staring down a trade and became nervous you have a good team getting better and better. Look at Linsanity and how good a guy like Fields gets when ball movment. Then look at Melos skill set which is very high but it stops the ball too many times.

This is not about x's and O's, this is about buy in. AMare does look quick again and playing better the last 5 games. Baron and JR can't shoot at the moment. JJ is not in to play defense.

These are the issues. Its all doable but Melo is a big factor. Its really simple, catch the ball and either shoot it, pass it, or put the ball on the floor, move yoru ass to pass or shoot. Stopping and squaring up is a killer. It a killer for amare and for Melo.

It has its time and place.

Nalod wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Maybe we need a 10 game stretch where MDA takes some time off.

See how the team does.

Then we see who goes?

We got samples with and without Melo.

Don't worry. MDA will be in Portland next year.

So a 121 and 167 is not a big enough sample size for MDA?

I hear you and we can debate this all day long.

I really don't feel the roster stability was ever there. WILL THERE EVER BE A STABLE ROSTER HERE? I'D SAY NO - SO WHO MDA THE BEST COACH FOR AN UNSTABLE ROSTER?

If you had buy in with those players, MDA could have done better. THIS IS CHICKEN OR EGG - PERHAPS IF PLAYER FIT INTO SYSTEM THEY WOULD BUY IN

The first two years to me are throw away years. Sure mistakes are made, but all teams make them. FAIR ENOUGH - IF FOLLOWING YEARS DID NOT HAVE FOLLOW UP EXCUSES

Team under walsh was to open space for Lebron. DEFINITELY TRUE. SUX HOW THAT TURNED OUT - I WILL HATE HIS TALENTS FOREVER!!

Dolan is like a kid who is given money to go buy their favorite toy. When at the toy store he finds the toy is sold out. Rather than wait for a new shipment, he has to buy a toy that day. In a few weeks, he regrets not having the toy he really wanted. REALLY? YOU THING DOLAN IS BAD - JUST KIDDING!!

Melo is not Lebron but he paid max money for Melo. TRUE - WE GOT SCREWED WITH MELO/STAT VS LEBRON/ANYONE

Back to your question about sample size being enough? I just think he did a lousy job with a lousy team. TELL THAT TO PAUL WETPHAL OR ANY COACH THAT GETS FIRED THAT HAS A WEAK SQUAD - ALOT WEAKER THAN OUR SQUAD!!

Take out the first 13 games last year and the last few weeks when Gallo-Mozzy-Felton-Chandler were kind of staring down a trade and became nervous THIS EXCUSE CAN BE USED FOR MELO AS WELL - YOU DON'T THINK HE FEELS THE PRESSURE OF NOT FITTING INTO THE SYSTEM AND PLAYING WORSE BECAUSE OF IT?

you have a good team getting better and better. Look at Linsanity and how good a guy like Fields gets when ball movment. Then look at Melos skill set which is very high but it stops the ball too many times. WATCH KOBE - THE BALL STOPS ALL THE TIME IN ISO LAND - IT JUST DOES NOT FIT HERE

This is not about x's and O's, this is about buy in. AMare does look quick again and playing better the last 5 games. Baron and JR can't shoot at the moment. JJ is not in to play defense. WOULD BE NICE BUT IT WILL BE HARD TO GET MELO TO BUY INTO A SYSTEM THAT DOES NOT SUIT HIM - AS IT WOULD KOBE/DURANT/ETC ...

These are the issues. Its all doable but Melo is a big factor. Its really simple, catch the ball and either shoot it, pass it, or put the ball on the floor, move yoru ass to pass or shoot. Stopping and squaring up is a killer. It a killer for amare and for Melo. YOU ARE TRYING TO ASK MELO TO PLAY OUT OF HIS ELEMENT - SAME POINT AS BEFORE

It has its time and place.

Basically, I agree that Melo is a horrible fit here. So, what is easier trading him or not resigning MDA? I am all for trading him but it won't happen. I want to see PJax coach this team and I think he will get the most out of all of them. I love how all the MDAers are saying "I am not that impressed with PJAx he had all the great players" - that is complete ignorance and quite comical. If Pjax fails with this crew - than I eat crow.

Thats just my opinion.

mase14 wrote:So nalod why doesn't melo get a pass,he hasn't even been here a full season,is it because of gallo?

Naw, Im over Gallo. Denver and the knicks have made way too many changes to compare Knuggs and Knicks. Too much time.

Melo not here a year? Its now about a full season. I don't really harp on last season. That boston series was not winnable given our roster. Melo gets a pass.

Actually I have thought melo is really trying and to me its not his stats that are telling. Its just not working.

I suspect melo lasts longer than MDA.

Good point about "roster ever being stable". If thats true as hit has been for 10 years, we'll just keep grinding down good coach's into stumps and bringing in new ones.

but the grass is always greener. Skills was the darling two years ago. Who's next, we gonna pine over Vinnie Del Negro next?

Don't laugh, but you know Flip Saunders is gonna be mentioned.

Why? Cuz the dude can coach. He can't coach morons. Nobody can.

Uptown wrote:

Nalod wrote:funny, I really think if Nate was in NY with the job he did in pOrtland with all those expecations we have run him out of town as we are with MDA. Idiot owner, bad luck injuries all get him a pass.

but the grass is always greener. Skills was the darling two years ago. Who's next, we gonna pine over Vinnie Del Negro next?

Don't laugh, but you know Flip Saunders is gonna be mentioned.

Why? Cuz the dude can coach. He can't coach morons. Nobody can.

The difference with Nate is that despite the bad-luck injuries, he still mnanaged to overachieve and get his teams into the playoffs in a much tougher western conference.

Knicks made playoffs last year. MDA has a brain dead owner. POrtland likes to burn thru Gm's.

Maybe Nate is a better coach for a dysfunctional owner! If so, bring him!

mrKnickShot wrote:

Uptown wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Nalod wrote:
Maybe we need a 10 game stretch where MDA takes some time off.

See how the team does.

Then we see who goes?

We got samples with and without Melo.

Don't worry. MDA will be in Portland next year.

I have heard some talk about Nate coming to NY. The Knicks keep the clout that goes along with having an Olympic assistant.

Whats ironic is Nate was hired as the defacto-defensive coach for the olympic team while MDA is suppsed to be the offensive guru/Euro guy. A coach like Nate would be a great fit here as he would put defense at the top of the priority list and he plays to his stars strengths. It was Brandon Roys team before the injuries now the offense goes through Aldridge. This is also a coach he gets the most out of his players in a tough western conference. Those teams was always riddled with injuries and he still keeps them afloat.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?id=4989056

While the Portland Trail Blazers coach is not the Hollywood type, the show his team is putting on -- despite 14 starting lineups because of injuries -- is pretty impressive. That's why, when the NBA hands out its Oscars at the end of the season, McMillan should win coach of the year.

And MDA defenders keep talking about all the changes the poor guy had to deal with.

You think that mention of 14 starting lineups compares to the over 65 actual ROSTER changes MDA has had? You can play a ton of starting lineup combinations and still have the same roster or many of the key guys still playing. Just ask Larry Brown. Besides that really isn't the issue anyway. The Western Conference was tougher when D'Antoni was winning 60 games and getting to the WCF's twice!!! Nate is a good coach, but I see no real advantage he has over MDA for his career.