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mrKnickShot
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3/11/2012  3:36 PM
nixluva wrote:There are so many parts to this thing that there is never one culprit! Today Sixers shot lights out and Knicks didn't. No need to call for the coaches head. What can be done about that right now anyway. It's too late in the season to change the coach.

Knicks will come out of this slump eventually and probably make another run. They can't panic and neither should we. Why can't NY fans ever be reasonable?

You are right. Can't change the coach now - at least I don't see any more extend MDA threads.

Reasonable is to believe that this thing is going anywhere but I watch every game and am hopeful (which is in disregard to any REASON)

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3/11/2012  3:36 PM
nixluva wrote:There are so many parts to this thing that there is never one culprit! Today Sixers shot lights out and Knicks didn't. No need to call for the coaches head. What can be done about that right now anyway. It's too late in the season to change the coach.

Knicks will come out of this slump eventually and probably make another run. They can't panic and neither should we. Why can't NY fans ever be reasonable?

Nix, to the point of the topic. How do you compare Westphal to MDA?

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3/11/2012  3:37 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:MDA brought this team to the first winning record in over a decade.

He dealt with 85 different players, with the Diva Bitch Carmelo being the nail in the coffin.

The Front Office doesn't work with Coach, it works AGAINST him.

Wherever MDA goes, that team will win a ton of games.

The Knicks? They will suck for the next 25 years, at least.

Yeah - it was all peaches for Westphal in Sacramento. He would have given his left NUT for the knicks roster.

BLAME BLAME BLAME BLAME = deflection

DEFLECTION IS RIGHT! BLAME COACH BECAUSE MELOBURY IS A CODDLED DIVA we sold the farm and the dogs and the chickens for!!!

LINSANITY 8-1 BABY, Melo? 2-7 now, and even worse if you will consider the days before Lindawg.

BTW, how did Gallo taste?

You are under the nutsack of Melo, it is keeping you warm at night like a furry coat.

I am not bigger Melo fan than a Lin fan. Or, a knick fan. Melo happens to be a superstar who has offensive number almost exactly equal to Kobe for his career. Sad that we can't find a way to use that to our advantage. Keep kicking him like you probably did Ewing. Thats what NY anti-superstars do.

You really don't say much else on this board. Do you have any other thoughts? Opinions?

What do you say other than blindly hype up a bum scorer in Melo?

Big points != success.

You know how many guys have come and gone through this league that were AWESOME SCORERS??

I watch this team go to **** since that trade and you have the balls to spit on me like this while you toe Dolan's company line.

Give. Break. To. Me.


Have a critical thought for once.

I post/troll about everything. You just spew your Melo hate.

BORING! Makes me dumber just reading them.

Yes. There are so many scorers that come and go and have Melo's career numbers. Sure. And Kobe too.

Gtfo. It's true that I hate Melo. The guy killed the Knicks, not only once, but two times; first with the trade and now by butchering Linsanity.

But you're throwing mud at MDA and skirting the issue: this team was 'working' before Melo came back and it was 'working' before the Melo trade.

Coach D'Antoni has WORKED, he has had the team functioning at a high level. Melo has had no such stretch of healthy function in New York. Periods.

Really? Why don't you take a look at Melo's/Knicks stats last year for the 25ish games he played and tell me how the knicks were so much better in the 25 games prior to him coming?

8-1 means nothing in this league. They played nobody on the road and nobody heard of Lin or adjusted to him at that point!

8-1 is not a championship! Lin can't hit a jumper if he is wide open now or play defense YOU GTFO

You either refuse or are unable to appreciate anything other than numbers in a box score.

Your approach would be best suited for a Robot League, but since basketball is still played by humans, your insights are severly limited.

Carmelo Anthony is ANTI-BASKETBALL
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3/11/2012  3:38 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:MDA brought this team to the first winning record in over a decade.

He dealt with 85 different players, with the Diva Bitch Carmelo being the nail in the coffin.

The Front Office doesn't work with Coach, it works AGAINST him.

Wherever MDA goes, that team will win a ton of games.

The Knicks? They will suck for the next 25 years, at least.

Yeah - it was all peaches for Westphal in Sacramento. He would have given his left NUT for the knicks roster.

BLAME BLAME BLAME BLAME = deflection

DEFLECTION IS RIGHT! BLAME COACH BECAUSE MELOBURY IS A CODDLED DIVA we sold the farm and the dogs and the chickens for!!!

LINSANITY 8-1 BABY, Melo? 2-7 now, and even worse if you will consider the days before Lindawg.

BTW, how did Gallo taste?

You are under the nutsack of Melo, it is keeping you warm at night like a furry coat.

I am not bigger Melo fan than a Lin fan. Or, a knick fan. Melo happens to be a superstar who has offensive number almost exactly equal to Kobe for his career. Sad that we can't find a way to use that to our advantage. Keep kicking him like you probably did Ewing. Thats what NY anti-superstars do.

You really don't say much else on this board. Do you have any other thoughts? Opinions?

What do you say other than blindly hype up a bum scorer in Melo?

Big points != success.

You know how many guys have come and gone through this league that were AWESOME SCORERS??

I watch this team go to **** since that trade and you have the balls to spit on me like this while you toe Dolan's company line.

Give. Break. To. Me.


Have a critical thought for once.

I post/troll about everything. You just spew your Melo hate.

BORING! Makes me dumber just reading them.

Yes. There are so many scorers that come and go and have Melo's career numbers. Sure. And Kobe too.

Gtfo. It's true that I hate Melo. The guy killed the Knicks, not only once, but two times; first with the trade and now by butchering Linsanity.

But you're throwing mud at MDA and skirting the issue: this team was 'working' before Melo came back and it was 'working' before the Melo trade.

Coach D'Antoni has WORKED, he has had the team functioning at a high level. Melo has had no such stretch of healthy function in New York. Periods.

Really? Why don't you take a look at Melo's/Knicks stats last year for the 25ish games he played and tell me how the knicks were so much better in the 25 games prior to him coming?

8-1 means nothing in this league. They played nobody on the road and nobody heard of Lin or adjusted to him at that point!

8-1 is not a championship! Lin can't hit a jumper if he is wide open now or play defense YOU GTFO

You either refuse or are unable to appreciate anything other than numbers in a box score.

Your approach would be best suited for a Robot League, but since basketball is still played by humans, your insights are severly limited.

That was a very strong response about ... NOTHING - thanks for contributing.

At least do your MELO SUCKS rant. At least its not Nothing ... or maybe, nah ... you are betting off saying nothing or not posting NOTHING as usual

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3/11/2012  3:39 PM
And to put Kobe and Melo in the same sentence is a spit on Kobe.

Guys like Kobe give a **** and they play hard on both ends, at all times.

Melo loafs around on D and thinks the World owes him something.

That's the difference and that's why, yes, it is ALL on Melo.

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Whats a Robot League??? and Does electric football count???
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3/11/2012  3:41 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:MDA brought this team to the first winning record in over a decade.

He dealt with 85 different players, with the Diva Bitch Carmelo being the nail in the coffin.

The Front Office doesn't work with Coach, it works AGAINST him.

Wherever MDA goes, that team will win a ton of games.

The Knicks? They will suck for the next 25 years, at least.

Yeah - it was all peaches for Westphal in Sacramento. He would have given his left NUT for the knicks roster.

BLAME BLAME BLAME BLAME = deflection

DEFLECTION IS RIGHT! BLAME COACH BECAUSE MELOBURY IS A CODDLED DIVA we sold the farm and the dogs and the chickens for!!!

LINSANITY 8-1 BABY, Melo? 2-7 now, and even worse if you will consider the days before Lindawg.

BTW, how did Gallo taste?

You are under the nutsack of Melo, it is keeping you warm at night like a furry coat.

I am not bigger Melo fan than a Lin fan. Or, a knick fan. Melo happens to be a superstar who has offensive number almost exactly equal to Kobe for his career. Sad that we can't find a way to use that to our advantage. Keep kicking him like you probably did Ewing. Thats what NY anti-superstars do.

You really don't say much else on this board. Do you have any other thoughts? Opinions?

What do you say other than blindly hype up a bum scorer in Melo?

Big points != success.

You know how many guys have come and gone through this league that were AWESOME SCORERS??

I watch this team go to **** since that trade and you have the balls to spit on me like this while you toe Dolan's company line.

Give. Break. To. Me.


Have a critical thought for once.

I post/troll about everything. You just spew your Melo hate.

BORING! Makes me dumber just reading them.

Yes. There are so many scorers that come and go and have Melo's career numbers. Sure. And Kobe too.

Gtfo. It's true that I hate Melo. The guy killed the Knicks, not only once, but two times; first with the trade and now by butchering Linsanity.

But you're throwing mud at MDA and skirting the issue: this team was 'working' before Melo came back and it was 'working' before the Melo trade.

Coach D'Antoni has WORKED, he has had the team functioning at a high level. Melo has had no such stretch of healthy function in New York. Periods.

Really? Why don't you take a look at Melo's/Knicks stats last year for the 25ish games he played and tell me how the knicks were so much better in the 25 games prior to him coming?

8-1 means nothing in this league. They played nobody on the road and nobody heard of Lin or adjusted to him at that point!

8-1 is not a championship! Lin can't hit a jumper if he is wide open now or play defense YOU GTFO

You either refuse or are unable to appreciate anything other than numbers in a box score.

Your approach would be best suited for a Robot League, but since basketball is still played by humans, your insights are severly limited.

That was a very strong response about ... NOTHING - thanks for contributing.

At least do your MELO SUCKS rant. At least its not Nothing ... or maybe, nah ... you are betting off saying nothing or not posting NOTHING as usual

To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

Carmelo Anthony is ANTI-BASKETBALL
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3/11/2012  3:41 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:And to put Kobe and Melo in the same sentence is a spit on Kobe.

Guys like Kobe give a **** and they play hard on both ends, at all times.

Melo loafs around on D and thinks the World owes him something.

That's the difference and that's why, yes, it is ALL on Melo.

Again, Melo is definitely NOT KOBE!!

But, let me just enlighten your close-mindedness a bit. Do you remember what they were saying about Kobe before he won - WITH PHIL JACKSON????@!@??

Probably not ... what was I thinking!

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3/11/2012  3:43 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:And to put Kobe and Melo in the same sentence is a spit on Kobe.

Guys like Kobe give a **** and they play hard on both ends, at all times.

Melo loafs around on D and thinks the World owes him something.

That's the difference and that's why, yes, it is ALL on Melo.

Again, Melo is definitely NOT KOBE!!

But, let me just enlighten your close-mindedness a bit. Do you remember what they were saying about Kobe before he won - WITH PHIL JACKSON????@!@??

Probably not ... what was I thinking!

They were not saying what they always said about Melo.

Was Kobe ever considered a smiley loafer?

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3/11/2012  3:43 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

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3/11/2012  3:44 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Carmelo Anthony is ANTI-BASKETBALL
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3/11/2012  3:45 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

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3/11/2012  3:48 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

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3/11/2012  3:49 PM
nixluva wrote:There are so many parts to this thing that there is never one culprit! Today Sixers shot lights out and Knicks didn't. No need to call for the coaches head. What can be done about that right now anyway. It's too late in the season to change the coach.

Knicks will come out of this slump eventually and probably make another run. They can't panic and neither should we. Why can't NY fans ever be reasonable?

Sixers simply shot the lights out and the Knicks didn't? Thats what happened today? You really sound like MDA.

Though I admit its too late to change coach unless you give up on the team and start a firesale (which wouldn't exactly be a bad idea).

Why can't NY fans be reasonable? What's being reasonable? Finding beauty in this pathetic mess of a team? We should simply admire the furniture while the roof starts falling over us? Come on now!

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3/11/2012  3:54 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

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3/11/2012  3:58 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

Hey. You put a perfect storm together, and this is what happens.

You put Melo on D'Antoni's team. Melo is probably the worst possible fit for a D'Antoni team.

MDA's philosophy is made for selfless, team-play. 'Selfless' and 'team-play' are two terms that don't exist in Carmelo's brain.

Then add an owner like Dolan and his butt-buddy Isiah, a combination that is itself antithetical to MDA's basketball philosophy, and you go out of your way to undermine your coach and GM, this is what you get.

It's short-sighted to blame D'Antoni. The blame is squarely on Melo, all of it, every single ounce of blame.

I'll see you later.

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3/11/2012  4:05 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

Hey. You put a perfect storm together, and this is what happens.

You put Melo on D'Antoni's team. Melo is probably the worst possible fit for a D'Antoni team.

MDA's philosophy is made for selfless, team-play. 'Selfless' and 'team-play' are two terms that don't exist in Carmelo's brain.

Then add an owner like Dolan and his butt-buddy Isiah, a combination that is itself antithetical to MDA's basketball philosophy, and you go out of your way to undermine your coach and GM, this is what you get.

It's short-sighted to blame D'Antoni. The blame is squarely on Melo, all of it, every single ounce of blame.

I'll see you later.

Sounds like everything they said about Kobe before PJax. Then came PJax and voila! We did not here that anymore.

Its bee fun ...

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3/11/2012  4:14 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

Hey. You put a perfect storm together, and this is what happens.

You put Melo on D'Antoni's team. Melo is probably the worst possible fit for a D'Antoni team.

MDA's philosophy is made for selfless, team-play. 'Selfless' and 'team-play' are two terms that don't exist in Carmelo's brain.

Then add an owner like Dolan and his butt-buddy Isiah, a combination that is itself antithetical to MDA's basketball philosophy, and you go out of your way to undermine your coach and GM, this is what you get.

It's short-sighted to blame D'Antoni. The blame is squarely on Melo, all of it, every single ounce of blame.

I'll see you later.

Sounds like everything they said about Kobe before PJax. Then came PJax and voila! We did not here that anymore.

Its bee fun ...

he won 3 titles before PJAX came back so its a different situation clearly lol
mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157
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Joined: 5/3/2011
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3/11/2012  4:33 PM
JCrusher wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

Hey. You put a perfect storm together, and this is what happens.

You put Melo on D'Antoni's team. Melo is probably the worst possible fit for a D'Antoni team.

MDA's philosophy is made for selfless, team-play. 'Selfless' and 'team-play' are two terms that don't exist in Carmelo's brain.

Then add an owner like Dolan and his butt-buddy Isiah, a combination that is itself antithetical to MDA's basketball philosophy, and you go out of your way to undermine your coach and GM, this is what you get.

It's short-sighted to blame D'Antoni. The blame is squarely on Melo, all of it, every single ounce of blame.

I'll see you later.

Sounds like everything they said about Kobe before PJax. Then came PJax and voila! We did not here that anymore.

Its bee fun ...

he won 3 titles before PJAX came back so its a different situation clearly lol

Really??? Interesting revisionist history moment. I am embarrassed for you.

mrKnickShot
Posts: 28157
Alba Posts: 16
Joined: 5/3/2011
Member: #3553

3/11/2012  4:54 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  5:17 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:To you it may be nothing because you lack the ability to understand it.

But it's not 'nothing'.

To analyze the game and the team, you have to have a keen sensititivy to the human relationships that drive the action on the floor. You can't just read numbers from basketball-reference and say "MDA SUCKS".

It also helps to step on the basektball court once in a while and see what it actually feels like to play the game.

I have been playing PG in a professional league for 20 years GTFO with your BS.

8-1 blah blah blah is the blind observationless stupidity that is your problem instead of seeing that there are many issues contributing to this.

There are many interpersonal issues between the players. Not everyone can get along with everyone else. The pill for that is not out yet (though it's in the works).

Back to the point, please explain why MDA gets a PHX pass and Westphal does not?

You were around for Westphal. It's curious that he didn't get another coaching job after Phoenix for something like three or four years. I don't know what his deal is.

Westphal is not MDA. MDA is coach that has won, that has turned all-star players into MVPs, that has gotten marginal scrubs big money contracts.

Unlike Westphal, MDA has won with his next team after Phoenix. 42-40 last year and the first winning record Knicks have had in 10 years. In 10 years. And he did this with a roster turnover that no other team in any sport anywhere in the world has experienced.

MDA has proven himself WITH THE KNICKS as well as the Suns.

Westphal did better in Seatle than MDA did with the Knicks. Westphal got further with PHX than MDA. Westphal had a much worse Sacramento team than the Knicks by Leaps AND BOUNDS.

They are both good coaches but not great and had spurts in their careers. They both should be/have been fired this year. MDA more than Wetphal because he had a much better team. And if Melo is a Diva than Cousins is Bobby Brown!

Hey. You put a perfect storm together, and this is what happens.

You put Melo on D'Antoni's team. Melo is probably the worst possible fit for a D'Antoni team.

MDA's philosophy is made for selfless, team-play. 'Selfless' and 'team-play' are two terms that don't exist in Carmelo's brain.

Then add an owner like Dolan and his butt-buddy Isiah, a combination that is itself antithetical to MDA's basketball philosophy, and you go out of your way to undermine your coach and GM, this is what you get.

It's short-sighted to blame D'Antoni. The blame is squarely on Melo, all of it, every single ounce of blame.

I'll see you later.

Sounds like everything they said about Kobe before PJax. Then came PJax and voila! We did not here that anymore.

Its bee fun ...

he won 3 titles before PJAX came back so its a different situation clearly lol

Really??? Interesting revisionist history moment. I am embarrassed for you.

Doug Collins is not just coaching great now but he was great in his first 3 championships with MJ - before PJax took over - hahahaha

MDA vs Paul Westphal

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