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3/11/2012  5:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  5:03 PM
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

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3/11/2012  5:20 PM
Mike had lost the team and is a dead man walking. Guys already know this.
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3/11/2012  5:25 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Mike had lost the team and is a dead man walking. Guys already know this.

So, so true. These players aren't playing hard for him, and he looks like he couldn't care less, even when in ANOTHER downward spiral like WTF is going on right now...

Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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3/11/2012  5:35 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  5:40 PM
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.

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3/11/2012  5:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  5:52 PM
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!
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3/11/2012  5:52 PM
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are talking about. Nothing you said is applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!

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3/11/2012  5:54 PM
arkrud wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Mike Dantoni didn't have stars, so we brought them in.

Mike Dantoni didn't have defensive players, so we brought them in.

Mike Dantoni didn't have a point guard, so we got one.

Mike Dantoni didn't have depth, so brought some in.

Mike Dantoni has failed miserably with this team.

Fire Dantoni.

Actually this is scary proposition...
If we will fire Mike and team will still failed miserably... then what?

You don't think someone else could do as well as 18-23 with this roster?
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3/11/2012  5:56 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
arkrud wrote:
JrZyHuStLa wrote:Mike Dantoni didn't have stars, so we brought them in.

Mike Dantoni didn't have defensive players, so we brought them in.

Mike Dantoni didn't have a point guard, so we got one.

Mike Dantoni didn't have depth, so brought some in.

Mike Dantoni has failed miserably with this team.

Fire Dantoni.

Actually this is scary proposition...
If we will fire Mike and team will still failed miserably... then what?

You don't think someone else could do as well as 18-23 with this roster?

If MDA can't then nobody can. Who is better than MDA? Answer nobody! Did I mention that he won in Europe?

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3/11/2012  5:57 PM
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.

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3/11/2012  6:00 PM
lin isnt a FA that has a choice in the matter of where he goes at this point.
GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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3/11/2012  6:01 PM
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.

Develop under a coach not named MDA? Not possible. Go with MDA in the offseason? Possible. Will he win with MDA somewhere else? If MDA wins somewhere else.

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3/11/2012  6:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  6:09 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.

Develop under a coach not named MDA? Not possible. Go with MDA in the offseason? Possible. Will he win with MDA somewhere else? If MDA wins somewhere else.

I believe Lin can strive under MDA but there's a 2 ton elephant in the room and nobody wants to do something about it. Look, Knicks keep playing out of sync and there is always someone injured, or missing on a game-to-game basis.

Lin is doing all he can with his high assists and his point contribution. How many time are we going to watch Amare and Melo stand around and watch players fly by them for a easy hoop? Melo only wants to play on one side of the court.

Yes, Lin is also weak defensively but when PG blows by him, I don't see any other Knicks coming in to help close up the lane. They all just stand and watch Lin get scorched. It was as if Knicks themselves are against Linsanity.

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3/11/2012  6:10 PM
Syniko wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.

Develop under a coach not named MDA? Not possible. Go with MDA in the offseason? Possible. Will he win with MDA somewhere else? If MDA wins somewhere else.

I believe Lin can strive under MDA but there's a 2 ton elephant in the room and nobody wants to do something about it. Look, Knicks keep playing out of sync and there is always someone injured, or missing on a game-to-game basis.

Lin is doing all he can with his high assists and his point contribution. How many time are we going to watch Amare and Melo stand around and watch players fly by them for a easy hoop? Melo only wants to play on one side of the court.

Yes, Lin is also weak defensively but when PG blows by him, I don't see any other Knicks coming in to help close up the lane. They all just stand and watch Lin get scorched. It was as if Knicks themselves are against Linsanity.

Yes. Big Elephant in room = Knicks Defense sucks and Baby Elephant = MDA can't coach defense too well.

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3/11/2012  6:26 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
Syniko wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.

Develop under a coach not named MDA? Not possible. Go with MDA in the offseason? Possible. Will he win with MDA somewhere else? If MDA wins somewhere else.

I believe Lin can strive under MDA but there's a 2 ton elephant in the room and nobody wants to do something about it. Look, Knicks keep playing out of sync and there is always someone injured, or missing on a game-to-game basis.

Lin is doing all he can with his high assists and his point contribution. How many time are we going to watch Amare and Melo stand around and watch players fly by them for a easy hoop? Melo only wants to play on one side of the court.

Yes, Lin is also weak defensively but when PG blows by him, I don't see any other Knicks coming in to help close up the lane. They all just stand and watch Lin get scorched. It was as if Knicks themselves are against Linsanity.

Yes. Big Elephant in room = Knicks Defense sucks and Baby Elephant = MDA can't coach defense too well.

And mother Elephant plays his guitar and sings:
"Knicks Sucks but I suck in a lot of money
Linsanity, insanity, StatoMelodramity... "

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3/11/2012  6:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  6:33 PM
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.


With or without a qualifier, the content is laughable. It would be a reach if you were talking about a pretty good young player, but to think that a guy who was sleeping on his brother coach should be thinking about:

Where he plays
His legacy to the game
Whether he has a chance at a title
Will he be stuck as the star of a franchise
Dealing with Front office demanding trades

LOL, wtf are you talking about??? Jeremy is still worried about his NBA career at this point, it hasn't gotten to a point where he isn't looking to trying to show he belongs in the league.

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3/11/2012  6:35 PM
I have to say, I've been of the mind that it's pointless to fire D'Antoni before the season ends. But I really do think they'd play better under Woodson. Not to say I like Woodson or want him to be here after Mike. But at least we'd get a half court set, some play calling, some set plays out of timeouts. I think we'd play better only because any coach other than Dantoni would coach to the strengths of our best players.

We have to make the post season if only to save ourselves the embarrassment of giving up ANOTHER lottery pick.

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3/11/2012  6:45 PM
IMO I don't think it's a good idea to fire MDA during the season. I think any chance of this team correcting itself and making the playoffs dies with a coaching change. These players have already had way too much change to deal with this season. They need some kind of stability so they can fix what's wrong and make a playoff run. They owe it to the coaches and the players to let them fight their way out of this.
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3/11/2012  6:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2012  6:50 PM
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
Anji wrote:
Syniko wrote:
arkrud wrote:
Syniko wrote:Actually if I were Lin, I'd find a quick exit out to another team. The Los Angeles Lakers looks like a good place to start.

Lin is just started his NBA carer and NY is a perfect place for him losing or winning.
He may think about it if MDA will be let go and we will get some triangle/isolation coach for Melo/Stat to run up their stats.
That's why I think MDA will stay. Dolan don't give a sht about winning.

Lin knows he doesn't want to end up stuck and beloved on a team similar to Steve Nash. If Knicks Lin is heralded from here on out, then he's going to be stuck with a mediocre team forever until the end of his career. So the best way out of this is to make a quick exit before he end up stuck for good.

After this season, Lin should demand a trade and go play for the L.A Lakers. L.A is a team that is still a contender and in dire need of a PG. Besides Lin won't come with a hefty price tag so it is a win scenario for the Lakers all around. Lakers get a tremendous player that will be leaps and bounds above Fisher.


But I have a feeling if Lin had a choice to go somewhere, he would probably not make the move and stay with the Knicks. He knows how important it is to be a Knicks player. Lin only needs one championship and he'll be a hero forever in N.Y city.


WTF are you talking about??!!! Nothing you said applies to a kid who thought he was never going to get his shot a month ago. Not Nash, not LA, not demanding a trade...............LOL!!!!!


That is why I said he should leave BEFORE he becomes an ever bigger deal. What part of "BEFORE" do you not understand? Right now, he's basically a rookie and cost teams peanut compare to the overpaid clowns like Amare and Melo.

You think Lin is going to stay at $800K figure salary forever with the way he's playing? Get Lin while he is still cheap and watch him develop even further.


With or without a qualifier, the content is laughable. It would be a reach if you were talking about a pretty good young player, but to think that a guy who was sleeping on his brother coach should be thinking about:

Where he plays
His legacy to the game
Whether he has a chance at a title
Will he be stuck as the star of a franchise
Dealing with Front office demanding trades

LOL, wtf are you talking about??? Jeremy is still worried about his NBA career at this point, it hasn't gotten to a point where he isn't looking to trying to show he belongs in the league.


Well then, if Lakers called up Knicks front office tomorrow and say "Give us Lin" before the trade deadline, do you think Knicks are going to say "Sure, here he is, give us Luke Walton & Steve Blake for him.

Are you still going to say this guy slept on his brother's couch and still hasn't proven himself? otherwise why would you care where Lin end up if you think he's still worrying about his NBA careers. Maybe if he continues to play for the Knicks but it isn't even the end of the world if Knicks lose another season. What does that have to do with Lin not fitting in the NBA (yet)?

You sound ridiculous. The way you're talking, it was as if you're arguing me about Kwame brown.

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3/11/2012  6:49 PM
nixluva wrote:IMO I don't think it's a good idea to fire MDA during the season. I think any chance of this team correcting itself and making the playoffs dies with a coaching change. These players have already had way too much change to deal with this season. They need some kind of stability so they can fix what's wrong and make a playoff run. They owe it to the coaches and the players to let them fight their way out of this.

+10000

Can't fire coach now. Let the season play out and let the chips fall where they may.

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3/11/2012  6:57 PM
You also have to remember we have another coach on the bench already.

Won't be hard to adopt ssol to "help" the team moving forward.

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