Bippity10 wrote: ... He only plays a four man rotation. ...

Hilarious!

martin wrote:

Anji wrote:Again this is Specious reasoning at it's best.

The brain trust that alot people say "forced" Melo on MDA also made the Chandler move at the cost of dumping the only point guard on the team. So threw those "forcible" means because the only center on the team offense starts 8 feet from the basket and plays at the rim proves that if a center with a jump shot like Brook Lopez was a knick that he wouldn't be taking more shots from further out???

Did TD starting at point guard almost derail the entire season.....did the perceived cost of his job motivate MDA to play LIN Lin??

The league is in a five month season were players are dropping to injuries too often, so this is proof that MDA likes 11 man rotation or does he have no real choice??? In a regular season does the lower profile players ever get off the bench??? Does Shump play if some garbage vet shooting is on the roster with fields???

Nobody knows either way, but to say in this situation where the coaches hand is being force is proof of what he would do giving another choice, his past or future is a terrible reach.

What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???

i don't even understand this. When you play a center, it certainly is validation that you will indeed play a center. The rest of what you posted is gibberish.

I might be confused, but the opening post is how many threes has TC taking.

My rebuttal is how many threes has TC taking ever in his life. Junior highschool included.

I don't think it's too convoluted to ask what other choice is there???

MDA likes to play a small rotation but in a season were you have to play back to backs every week, is there really a choice to not play more players???

So how am suppose take any of these puffed out chest claims in a season were the coach basically has had one of arms broken??? Was he not going to play TC when the knicks just Amnesty Billups and signed him for 45 million dollars??? You're going to tell me that, there is a choice there??? I gave three or four situations of were the coaches hand was forced, shouldn't be too hard to follow the reasoning.

"What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???"

Anji wrote:

martin wrote:

Anji wrote:Again this is Specious reasoning at it's best.

The brain trust that alot people say "forced" Melo on MDA also made the Chandler move at the cost of dumping the only point guard on the team. So threw those "forcible" means because the only center on the team offense starts 8 feet from the basket and plays at the rim proves that if a center with a jump shot like Brook Lopez was a knick that he wouldn't be taking more shots from further out???

Did TD starting at point guard almost derail the entire season.....did the perceived cost of his job motivate MDA to play LIN Lin??

The league is in a five month season were players are dropping to injuries too often, so this is proof that MDA likes 11 man rotation or does he have no real choice??? In a regular season does the lower profile players ever get off the bench??? Does Shump play if some garbage vet shooting is on the roster with fields???

Nobody knows either way, but to say in this situation where the coaches hand is being force is proof of what he would do giving another choice, his past or future is a terrible reach.

What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???

i don't even understand this. When you play a center, it certainly is validation that you will indeed play a center. The rest of what you posted is gibberish.

I might be confused, but the opening post is how many threes has TC taking.

My rebuttal is how many threes has TC taking ever in his life. Junior highschool included.

I don't think it's too convoluted to ask what other choice is there???

MDA likes to play a small rotation but in a season were you have to play back to backs every week, is there really a choice to not play more players???

So how am suppose take any of these puffed out chest claims in a season were the coach basically has had one of arms broken??? Was he not going to play TC when the knicks just Amnesty Billups and signed him for 45 million dollars??? You're going to tell me that, there is a choice there???

"What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???"

1. MDA likes to help players expand their game if he feels they can. So guys like Jared will be encouraged to shoot more. Even taking 3's. Guys like Jorts who really weren't called upon to do that in college. It's MDA's way of getting a player to have full confidence and it does get results. Jared is much more confident and finding more success, despite not really being a great offensive player.

2. MDA really had not choice but to go with small teams and short rotations because he had small teams and teams lacking depth. You have to realize that he was adjusting to the realities of his rosters. People think they know better than him what he is working with and so they assume he should be playing more guys even when those teams weren't deep. This team is really deep with talent now.

MDA actually knows what he's doing. He's not just being forced to do things as it seems to fans. Even when it came to Lin, it's not like he just had him languishing on the bench. They spent a lot of time working with the kid and looking for a way to help him learn the system despite Lin not being here for Camp and not having any practices. They sent him to the D league and he figured things out. He practiced on game days and when he got his shot, he was ready. If they hadn't done all of that prep work Lin would never have been able to play with confidence and succeed when he got his shot.

It's been proven that this isn't an easy system to learn. It only looks easy to the fans. The reads are much harder than they look. That's why Lin looked shaky when he played early in the season. Now he's got it and we're all happy.

Anji wrote:

martin wrote:

Anji wrote:Again this is Specious reasoning at it's best.

The brain trust that alot people say "forced" Melo on MDA also made the Chandler move at the cost of dumping the only point guard on the team. So threw those "forcible" means because the only center on the team offense starts 8 feet from the basket and plays at the rim proves that if a center with a jump shot like Brook Lopez was a knick that he wouldn't be taking more shots from further out???

Did TD starting at point guard almost derail the entire season.....did the perceived cost of his job motivate MDA to play LIN Lin??

The league is in a five month season were players are dropping to injuries too often, so this is proof that MDA likes 11 man rotation or does he have no real choice??? In a regular season does the lower profile players ever get off the bench??? Does Shump play if some garbage vet shooting is on the roster with fields???

Nobody knows either way, but to say in this situation where the coaches hand is being force is proof of what he would do giving another choice, his past or future is a terrible reach.

What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???

i don't even understand this. When you play a center, it certainly is validation that you will indeed play a center. The rest of what you posted is gibberish.

I might be confused, but the opening post is how many threes has TC taking.

My rebuttal is how many threes has TC taking ever in his life. Junior highschool included.

I don't think it's too convoluted to ask what other choice is there???

MDA likes to play a small rotation but in a season were you have to play back to backs every week, is there really a choice to not play more players???

So how am suppose take any of these puffed out chest claims in a season were the coach basically has had one of arms broken??? Was he not going to play TC when the knicks just Amnesty Billups and signed him for 45 million dollars??? You're going to tell me that, there is a choice there??? I gave three or four situations of were the coaches hand was forced, shouldn't be too hard to follow the reasoning.

"What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???"

Arguably one of the worst arguments I've seen on this site.

Bippity10 wrote:

Anji wrote:

martin wrote:

Anji wrote:Again this is Specious reasoning at it's best.

The brain trust that alot people say "forced" Melo on MDA also made the Chandler move at the cost of dumping the only point guard on the team. So threw those "forcible" means because the only center on the team offense starts 8 feet from the basket and plays at the rim proves that if a center with a jump shot like Brook Lopez was a knick that he wouldn't be taking more shots from further out???

Did TD starting at point guard almost derail the entire season.....did the perceived cost of his job motivate MDA to play LIN Lin??

The league is in a five month season were players are dropping to injuries too often, so this is proof that MDA likes 11 man rotation or does he have no real choice??? In a regular season does the lower profile players ever get off the bench??? Does Shump play if some garbage vet shooting is on the roster with fields???

Nobody knows either way, but to say in this situation where the coaches hand is being force is proof of what he would do giving another choice, his past or future is a terrible reach.

What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???

i don't even understand this. When you play a center, it certainly is validation that you will indeed play a center. The rest of what you posted is gibberish.

I might be confused, but the opening post is how many threes has TC taking.

My rebuttal is how many threes has TC taking ever in his life. Junior highschool included.

I don't think it's too convoluted to ask what other choice is there???

MDA likes to play a small rotation but in a season were you have to play back to backs every week, is there really a choice to not play more players???

So how am suppose take any of these puffed out chest claims in a season were the coach basically has had one of arms broken??? Was he not going to play TC when the knicks just Amnesty Billups and signed him for 45 million dollars??? You're going to tell me that, there is a choice there??? I gave three or four situations of were the coaches hand was forced, shouldn't be too hard to follow the reasoning.

"What kinda of idiot claims situations were there is only one option as some kind of validification???"

Arguably one of the worst arguments I've seen on this site.

It might be, but I still think when it all clears MDA will be fired for being the stubborn coach he is. He was half away from doing it about a month ago.

Another stubborn myth in your eyes though, so this probably is now the worst argument ever. LOL

I look at Rick Carlisle with and without TC, there is definitely a cased to be made that coaching plays a part in how these players perform. And just because with good defensive players we are 7th in the league doesn't mean with a coach that cared we couldn't be number 1.

Anji wrote:Also, there is the Woodson factor and how much is he involved......... too many variables to claim this guy get's it IMO.

Anji wrote:I wouldn't blame Woodson............so that is another one choice situation MDA has to deal with.

This coach still has to prove he get's it. His system is not infallible.(checks dictionary to make sure im not using some ghetto spelling throwing in stuff so Jrodmc doesn't call me out.............pirck)

Players want to come here to play specifically in this system
His system will maximize the career of our new phenom PG
The players are playing hard and executing on both ends of the floor

When its clear a coaches systems isnt the right fit for the roster, or the players stop playing hard its time for a change. Now aint it