EnySpree wrote:Just the fact we're talking about a power forward just shows how much a liability A'mare has been this year. He was a beat last year. All of a sudden the dude is Hakim warrick

for me he's Kurt Thomas of '99 without the defense.

Bonn1997 wrote:I'd like to get Lin, Smith, Novak, Melo, and Chandler on the court together. I think at PF Melo could really capitalize on his strengths. He could get a lot of open jump-shots and drive to the basket at will. I bet he'd play better defense than Amare does. This wouldn't always work - he can't guard someone tall like Pau but I think it would work against most PFs.

I would like that too. It will never happen. Problem is that conventional thinking dictates you can't pay a guy $100 M over 5 years to be a bench player. So we have to justify his salary by starting him.

holfresh wrote:Do you guys really watch the games??? I'm truly amazed at this board ...Noval had zero rebounds and plays zero defense yet be his loved by all on this board.. Do you guys understand basketball???

Novak had 0 rebounds in 19 minutes..Not one poster questioned this ???

Melo had 7-8. Which is exactly why he is better suited to play PF.

But Lin/JR/Novak/Melo/Chandler is lethal on offense and can manage on defense.

airchibundo507 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Do you guys really watch the games??? I'm truly amazed at this board ...Noval had zero rebounds and plays zero defense yet be his loved by all on this board.. Do you guys understand basketball???

Novak had 0 rebounds in 19 minutes..Not one poster questioned this ???

Melo had 7-8. Which is exactly why he is better suited to play PF.

But Lin/JR/Novak/Melo/Chandler is lethal on offense and can manage on defense.

Our PF should be pulling down 12 boards a game not shooting threes..I hate Mike D Antonio ..

holfresh wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Do you guys really watch the games??? I'm truly amazed at this board ...Noval had zero rebounds and plays zero defense yet be his loved by all on this board.. Do you guys understand basketball???

Novak had 0 rebounds in 19 minutes..Not one poster questioned this ???

Melo had 7-8. Which is exactly why he is better suited to play PF.

But Lin/JR/Novak/Melo/Chandler is lethal on offense and can manage on defense.

Our PF should be pulling down 12 boards a game not shooting threes..I hate Mike D Antonio ..

holfresh wrote:You guys do not watch the games at all...Do you know how many put backs Miami had when Novak entered the game???No you don't ..You don't care because all u guys now care about is threes..Novak was hitting threes on one end and Miami was getting second chance points on the other..No one on this board sees this..I get questioned constantly if I watch the games..Stupid freaking Thread by Bonn

hol, you are utterly and completely missing the whole entire context and meaning of this thread. Perhaps you should re-read the OP:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'd like to get Lin, Smith, Novak, Melo, and Chandler on the court together. I think at PF Melo could really capitalize on his strengths. He could get a lot of open jump-shots and drive to the basket at will. I bet he'd play better defense than Amare does. This wouldn't always work - he can't guard someone tall like Pau but I think it would work against most PFs.

This is not to suggest Novak replaces Amare in the starting line, as you suggest here:

holfresh wrote:Do you guys really watch the games??? I'm truly amazed at this board ...Noval had zero rebounds and plays zero defense yet be his loved by all on this board.. Do you guys understand basketball???

Novak had 0 rebounds in 19 minutes..Not one poster questioned this ???

Nor does it suggest that our PF should be shooting 3's, as you suggest here:

holfresh wrote:

airchibundo507 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Do you guys really watch the games??? I'm truly amazed at this board ...Noval had zero rebounds and plays zero defense yet be his loved by all on this board.. Do you guys understand basketball???

Novak had 0 rebounds in 19 minutes..Not one poster questioned this ???

Melo had 7-8. Which is exactly why he is better suited to play PF.

But Lin/JR/Novak/Melo/Chandler is lethal on offense and can manage on defense.

Our PF should be pulling down 12 boards a game not shooting threes..I hate Mike D Antonio ..

Did you bother to read anything or respond in a way that makes sense?

DJMUSIC wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:I'd like to get Lin, Smith, Novak, Melo, and Chandler on the court together. I think at PF Melo could really capitalize on his strengths. He could get a lot of open jump-shots and drive to the basket at will. I bet he'd play better defense than Amare does. This wouldn't always work - he can't guard someone tall like Pau but I think it would work against most PFs.

I dont like the idea BUT
I see your point

Melo is a post player with offensive perimeter skills
Melo would not be worst than Amare in PF

Amare may get 2-3 boards more but its not like Amare is getting tons of his pts. in the paint.
Amare cannot go the other way though SF,

He seriously needs to get serious about what Knicks needs are before its too late

plugging in Novak vs Iman in the starting lineup while taking Amare and Fields makes sense to me.
Iman is a lock down defender in the making, he is missed on the court.
Westbrook, Rose, and Durant didn't have all star numbers or lead their teams anywhere, their rookie season.
However, they took off within the 2nd and 3rd years, especially with this shortened season, its hard to learn without practice.
BUT I has a high ceiling and is a hard worker off the court, I believe he will come back, next year, with a much better feel of the game, while being much more complete and improved.
Our current starting lineup just doesn't work, Amare's role is taken by TC. He is the much better defender, and much efficient.
TC when played with players that spread the floor, helped his game, and he did lots of work on both ends, during this LinSane streak.
Amare needs to go to the bench for the better of the team, I am not blaming him, but he just doesn't fit well with the other players.
These are the lineups I would tweak up, as I feel they mesh much better than Amare not fitting in.

David Lee would fit much better at PF than Amare at this point, while Amare could play the undersized Center better than Lee.
Lee has the ability to penetrate, finish with both hands, can hit the 12 footer, and can post up as well.

Lin
Iman
Smith
Melo
TC

Lin
Smith
Melo
Novak
TC

Lin
Smith
Fields
Melo
TC

Lin
Iman
Melo
Novak
TC

Knixkik wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Novak is a PF, why do people keep saying he's a SF. Novak and Melo and Lin and Tyson have been on the floor a fair amount together.

I think I'd want to see:

Lin
Shump
Melo
Novak
Chandler

Shump and Lin together have been really really good. Shump picks up the tough cover in the backcourt and creates transition opportunities for Lin.

I think Shump being in the Miami game changes it completely. and I think Shump would've held Deron Williams to way fewer open looks

Novak is a PF defensively and a SF on offense. Melo should be just the opposite in this system. They fit very well together, especially alongside a defensive presence like Chandler. I agree that this team with either Shump or Smith at SG (because they are our natural SGs) offers the most balanced lineup. Fields can fit as well, but i really want more shooting in the lineup.

Novak can't defend the likes of Josh Smith, Pau or Love. He will try to keep them in front of him, but he is not very quick and speed matters in defense.