If the public relations department (the ministry of propoganda) was trying to spin it to help Melo and his image and MDA was being cast in bad light how could you not blame the guy for not playing ball. Thats of course if you have an complete hard on to replace the guy with a mystical figure not yet known.

MDA has had the carpet yanked year after year and with little roster stability at all and we never hear a complaint. Fans get anxious and call for his head. This guy sees all the crap in the front office and knows all about the Isiah years. He has seen all the crap Walsh had to deal with, the Isiah influence with Dolan, and who knows what MSG management is capable of.

To me the team was having huge problems with the one key component MDA requires and thats a PG.

When we finally get a miracle of sorts with Lin no body is hailing Kenny Atkinson for the job he did, or the scouts, or the coach, but (if its true) we get a report Melo was the one? Hours of tape, conditioning and evaluation and MSG puts out something like that?

If they did, I think thats a load of crap and all MDA did was say "he don't remember". Pretty tame.

Basically Dolan usually buys propaganda loyalty when he grants you an extension. MDA don't have that.

I don't know too many coaches with the reputation as being an offensive genius available and has never lost his team except when it was full of Larry hughes and Marbury.

Im under the impression if MDA can't weave Melo into this then perhaps its the players and not the coach.

I want this to work. I think the players want it to work. Keep changing is fun and exciting but starphuching ticket sales schemes don't last.

Of course, maybe the coach don't want to extend and he is done here?

martin wrote:i love the fact that MDA is being called a drama queen or whatever.... and yet he is the one that is not quoted or not the one who at all brought this topic up. not once.

Notice at all that there is no direct quote?

Here's the scenario: MDA was asked and all he said was that he didn't remember.

You guys actually fell for this ****? mrKicksShot, you seem so confident that MDA is at fault here, and yet none of it is true. MDA same guy who put his foot down for JJ.

+1...that is worse then a berman article

If everyone agreed on things, there would be no topic.

Plus, anger sells!

I still don't get this whole scenario. The guy was undrafted, cut by 3 teams, passed over by 17 teams once waived. And the coach that is finally playing him and getting the most out of his game is being attacked because he hesitated for a few weeks? Lunacy

eViL wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:We still haven't learned that to win a title you have to do things as a team and as an organization, not as a bunch of individuals who need to get blamed or credited for stuff. None of us know what happened but who cares. Let's say Melo did ask the coach to play Lin. What does that mean? The front office signed him. Melo vouched for him. D'Antoni played him when he didn't have to. Everyone made a good decision here. Why are we looking for a bad guy.

I still don't get this whole scenario. The guy was undrafted, cut by 3 teams, passed over by 17 teams once waived. And the coach that is finally playing him and getting the most out of his game is being attacked because he hesitated for a few weeks? Lunacy

+1

lol. well put.

my sentiments exactly eVil. Good post Bip.

I mentioned it the other day, but this is the problem with NY fans. we are always looking to proclaim someone a hero or a villain instead of letting things play out. it's stupidity really.

holfresh wrote:Well put Bip..The media is reading this all wrong ..They think fans want the drama that owned the Isiah years..Fans want a team that wins..I don't care who did what..I care about how the Knicks gel going into the playoffs..Talk radio is gossip radio..I heard Berman on Sunday night talk radio trying to stir the pot and I won't post it here..Let them talk about how this team can come together..No one is biting on this nonsense..It doesnt matter how Lin got here the Knicks are better for it..I watch the games and I don't need talking heads to tell me how to interpret the outcome..Go Knicks!!!!!

Word.

I'm sick and tired of all that stuff. I just want to see a team together for a few months before we gut it again. See how they gel. Root like hell. Enjoy the ride. When the dust clears if we aren't good enough then we do as all good organizations do. We don't point fingers. We don't blame. We all sit down together, work together to find the "tweaks and changes" that will get us in position the following year. I don't care who's idea it was too draft Shumpert, or who wanted Lin to play or who's boy D'Antoni is. We are all part of the same team so who cares.

And yes I did say "we" and I will continue to use "we" until they begin to lose again.

Bippity10 wrote:We still haven't learned that to win a title you have to do things as a team and as an organization, not as a bunch of individuals who need to get blamed or credited for stuff. None of us know what happened but who cares. Let's say Melo did ask the coach to play Lin. What does that mean? The front office signed him. Melo vouched for him. D'Antoni played him when he didn't have to. Everyone made a good decision here. Why are we looking for a bad guy.

I still don't get this whole scenario. The guy was undrafted, cut by 3 teams, passed over by 17 teams once waived. And the coach that is finally playing him and getting the most out of his game is being attacked because he hesitated for a few weeks? Lunacy

Exactly! thank you.
Why is it so hard to just appreciate a good thing when it happens? When something good happens, it only detracts from the situation when everybody & their mother tries to take credit for it. Fact is, Melo didn't take credit, D'Antoni didn't take credit, and even Lin doesn't take credit for the linsanity. The selflessness is actually a good thing people. If the reporters want to stir things up for a story, let them, I'm just gonna enjoy this run and ignore the BS.

Bippity10 wrote:

holfresh wrote:Well put Bip..The media is reading this all wrong ..They think fans want the drama that owned the Isiah years..Fans want a team that wins..I don't care who did what..I care about how the Knicks gel going into the playoffs..Talk radio is gossip radio..I heard Berman on Sunday night talk radio trying to stir the pot and I won't post it here..Let them talk about how this team can come together..No one is biting on this nonsense..It doesnt matter how Lin got here the Knicks are better for it..I watch the games and I don't need talking heads to tell me how to interpret the outcome..Go Knicks!!!!!

Word.

I'm sick and tired of all that stuff. I just want to see a team together for a few months before we gut it again. See how they gel. Root like hell. Enjoy the ride. When the dust clears if we aren't good enough then we do as all good organizations do. We don't point fingers. We don't blame. We all sit down together, work together to find the "tweaks and changes" that will get us in position the following year. I don't care who's idea it was too draft Shumpert, or who wanted Lin to play or who's boy D'Antoni is. We are all part of the same team so who cares.

And yes I did say "we" and I will continue to use "we" until they begin to lose again.

+10000000

Could not agree more!! People seem to care more about being right about their stance (ala Partisan Politics) then the damn team. AND WINS!! This goes for the prom Coach/anti coach people, the pro Melo/anit Melo people etc ... Everyone is guilty.

If you win here, you are loved (don't care who you are or if you smell bad). If you lose, (eventually) you gotta go and don't care why. This goes for the Coach, the Players or the GM (would be nice if we could ship out the owner as well if they don't produce). Even if your are dealt a crappy hand - that's life. Luck plays a big part.

People forget too how much Yankee fans hated George Steinbrener through the 80's and early 90's. Terrible trades, horrible signings, the Howie Spira/Winfield mess etc ... He was more hated than Dolan during those years - yes! he was! But eventually the sh1t actually hit the fan correctly, Mariano came out of nowhere, they actually did not trade their homegrowns and things fell into place and Voila! Everyone loved the owner.

Fans want wins - true fans. Thats all they care about. Everyone was calling for Coughlins job. If he loses to the Jets, he was probably gone. Now, he is our hero and we all love him. And trust me, nobody had bigger excuses than coughlin with all the Giant injuries. He won, we love him now - who cares!

And yes. Who the **** cares who's idea was what, who wanted to draft who and who was pro or against a trade. We want wins. Playoff wins. JVG took an over achieving team to the NBA finals - and lost! but we loved him for it. I will LOVE MDA if he wins for us just the same. No blind love or man-crush here without W's.

Just Win!!

mrKnickShot wrote:I work at a big tech giant. I have never seen someone promoted to Director because it was not their fault since they were given weak resources and kept doing reorgs because it was not working.

You gotta succeed with the hand you are dealt (eventually/at some point) to get paid/extended/promoted or someone else gets a turn. You can only hope to be lucky enough to be dealt the right hand during your tenure.

Here's the thing: your analogy doesn't work. MDA isn't being promoted. And you can't succeed in the NBA with weak resources, and it also wasn't MDA who was doing the reorgs.

I think most are suggesting to extend MDA because he is a good fit for what and who is on the team today and going forward, and also because of what is not out there in terms of replacements.