mrKnickShot wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't care what anyone says but if you put on 20 pounds in one off season you are going to get over bulked and the power and speed will suffer. That is the problem here he is playing at a weight he is not accustomed to. Amare needs to seriously consider dropping that 20 he put on.

I guess he thought that it will help him box out but he did not realized that you first have to put your ass on the guy.

Hahahhaa yea man. Boxing out is essentially establishing a stance geting low and sticking Ass out. Mo one cam move you then.

Amare stands straight and goes for boards.

It's a lost art.

mrKnickShot wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

mrKnickShot wrote:

Vmart wrote:I don't care what anyone says but if you put on 20 pounds in one off season you are going to get over bulked and the power and speed will suffer. That is the problem here he is playing at a weight he is not accustomed to. Amare needs to seriously consider dropping that 20 he put on.

I guess he thought that it will help him box out but he did not realized that you first have to put your ass on the guy.

Hahahhaa yea man. Boxing out is essentially establishing a stance geting low and sticking Ass out. Mo one cam move you then.

Amare stands straight and goes for boards.

It's a lost art.

Its funny - Novak does it and Amare can't. If he is actually jewish, he does not have a jewish brain

sad. To say novak is a better rebounder than amare and no way should this be.the case given the disparity in physical ability

eViL wrote:only remedy with Amare is patience. we have to wait for him to round back into shape. it'll happen. maybe he won't be as explosive, but he won't be getting his **** pushed in the way he is now.

agree 100 percent

The myth is that NBA guys don't use PED's because its not football or wrestling, there's no benefit. I believe they said that about baseball in the 90's when some folks started to grow suspicious. But nothing would've changed in baseball unless guys got caught. Then they started testing and everything changed. As long as no one in the NBA gets busted with anything, nothing will change, testing will not take place. People still like to believe that the NFL is clean. First problem is that HGH is not tested for. GH is better than most other steroids anyway, plus the only groups that test for it is the Olympics. And despite GH being basically "legal", NFL guys still use stuff. And occasionally they fail their tests. Steroids are taken in cycles and you try to time it out with your testing and sometimes you miscalculate. That's basically how the majority of UFC fighters get busted. People also can't fathom the idea that anyone other than 200 pounds could take PED's since people think steroids turns you into the Incredible Hulk.

It is reasonable to suspect that any sport that requires speed, strength, or size the athletes are going to use anything that isn't tested for, and if it is tested for a percentage of them will still try it. Sports are very competitive, and if GH isn't tested for, some athletes don't see it as "cheating". But the idea that anyone other than a WWE wrestler would take PED's is very shocking to most, and what's even more shocking is to think that its not just a handful of "cheaters" but a large percentage would blow people's minds. There's no doubt in my mind that the majority of NBA players are on GH at the least, and probably a lot more, simply because they have no testing. Not everybody of course, but I would guess a percentage that would surprise most. If sports leaders really cared about steroid use, then basically every sport would test. But its expensive and bigger, faster, stronger sells. So why rock the boat and add on additional costs if the general public isn't asking for it?

I expect a lot of doubt and backlash to this post, just like to the original post, but I would just try to be open to the concept, because it is a reality that most people aren't prepared to accept. But one day someone's going to get busted, and only then will people's perceptions will change and then testing can finally be implemented. I wouldn't call people that scoff at the idea of NBA players all being on GH naive, because that's a bit too harsh of a word. I think unfamilair might be more appropriate with a heavy sprinkle of denial.

mrKnickShot wrote:

Voltron wrote:I commend you for having the guts to post something like this. People unfamiliar with steroids base their knowledge of how its used and who uses it on what the news media says so when other commenters don't accept the idea that any NBA player is on the juice, I'm not too hard on them. The general public's knowledge of PED's is pretty minimal and is more rooted on 80's stereotypes of acne covered bodies, shrunken nuts,and "roid rage". The truth is there are MANY forms of steroids, and they all do different things, and most side effects can be countered to avoid suspicion to the average joe. The other myth is people think steroids are sold in the locker rooms of gyms in dirty paper bags, and could not fathom the idea that a doctor could write them a prescription that they can pick up at Walgreen's. Steroids are used to heal injuries which all athletes have. The idea is that when you are healed you are supposed to stop, but somehow so many athletes just keep getting prescriptions for low testosterone! Those familiar with PED's simply look at any NBA game from the 70's or 80's in comparison to nowadays and the physical differences are pretty obvious. While people like to think these guys are so huge is because of hi-tech supplements, that's being a bit optimistic.

The myth is that NBA guys don't use PED's because its not football or wrestling, there's no benefit. I believe they said that about baseball in the 90's when some folks started to grow suspicious. But nothing would've changed in baseball unless guys got caught. Then they started testing and everything changed. As long as no one in the NBA gets busted with anything, nothing will change, testing will not take place. People still like to believe that the NFL is clean. First problem is that HGH is not tested for. GH is better than most other steroids anyway, plus the only groups that test for it is the Olympics. And despite GH being basically "legal", NFL guys still use stuff. And occasionally they fail their tests. Steroids are taken in cycles and you try to time it out with your testing and sometimes you miscalculate. That's basically how the majority of UFC fighters get busted. People also can't fathom the idea that anyone other than 200 pounds could take PED's since people think steroids turns you into the Incredible Hulk.

It is reasonable to suspect that any sport that requires speed, strength, or size the athletes are going to use anything that isn't tested for, and if it is tested for a percentage of them will still try it. Sports are very competitive, and if GH isn't tested for, some athletes don't see it as "cheating". But the idea that anyone other than a WWE wrestler would take PED's is very shocking to most, and what's even more shocking is to think that its not just a handful of "cheaters" but a large percentage would blow people's minds. There's no doubt in my mind that the majority of NBA players are on GH at the least, and probably a lot more, simply because they have no testing. Not everybody of course, but I would guess a percentage that would surprise most. If sports leaders really cared about steroid use, then basically every sport would test. But its expensive and bigger, faster, stronger sells. So why rock the boat and add on additional costs if the general public isn't asking for it?

I expect a lot of doubt and backlash to this post, just like to the original post, but I would just try to be open to the concept, because it is a reality that most people aren't prepared to accept. But one day someone's going to get busted, and only then will people's perceptions will change and then testing can finally be implemented. I wouldn't call people that scoff at the idea of NBA players all being on GH naive, because that's a bit too harsh of a word. I think unfamilair might be more appropriate with a heavy sprinkle of denial.

Excellent post. I think people just don't want to entertain the thought seeing how it was such an ugly rash on baseball. People will always cheat if they can get away with it especially when there are millions of dollars at stake.

all the PED talk might be taken more seriously if the dude wasn't coming off a serious back injury that kept him off the basketball court for 5-6 months.

Marcala12 wrote:This is my first post, I'm probably going to get crushed for this but I want to explain:

I'm not trolling, I just don't know what other way to explain how a player goes from being one of the strongest and fiercest finishers in the game to a guy with no power or explosion in just 10 months. Amare also used to be ripped, and I don't see the same muscle tone anymore.

Utter utter c**p- are you blind?! He looks more jacked up than ever before- what is wrong with you?

They way some supposed fans are talking about Amar'e this season is a disgrace- I'm not talking about the people who are wondering why he's played poorly this year and not looked right- but those people who are making up baseless lies (ped's), demanding he be traded and outright insulting him when

a) he did a lot for us last year, AND without him they'd be no Melo, Tyson, BD or JR Smith, or even Lin)- we owe him.
b) His brother has just died- have some frickin class and compassion

For the last time, here are the answers to your mystery:

1) His recovery from the back injury meant he had to have complete rest- he could not play basketball in the offseason, then there was very little training camp. This makes you rusty.

2)He put on weight due to the lack of activity, changed it into muscle once cleared, but now is too heavy- 15lb+ is a lot of weight. This has slowed him down

3) Because of the above he lost some confidence in his jumper, and had no legs. He started to get his legs back the week before his brother died, we all saw the difference (looking like the Amar'e of old).

4) His brother died- aside from the huge mental and emotional impact, he didn't play basketball for over a week, and so lost his legs again

I'm hoping he uses the all star break to lose a bit of weight and sharpen up his shot- I'm not expecting a great year from him, but I'm not going to bash him for it after what he's done for the franchise and for the personal tragedy he has experienced.