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Five Wins In A Row? Bring Amar'e Off The Bench In Toronto
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misterearl
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2/12/2012  11:05 AM
franco12 wrote:I think you start Stat because he's proved to be able to thrive in this system.

Melo is the one I would argue should come off the bench when he returns.

franco - this opinion is NOT about the system. The is about how Amar'e deals with grieving and the instant toll on his body if he starts.

Patience.

This is larger than basketball. This is about allowing a person to heal.

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2/12/2012  11:08 AM
We have no idea If Stat was able to get a few work outs in.

Think its overly insensitive to ask Amare if he is interested in the name of staying healthy to have a trainer come buy for an hour or two a day and work him out? Think Amare might want to dedicate his season to his guardian angel? He is used to working out and perhaps the very thing that helps him feel better? I know when I am out of sorts A good workout makes me feel better!

Knicks, the trainers and Amare knows his body and what it can do and can't.

Amare knows the plan with Nash and what they did for 55 games with Felton last year.

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2/12/2012  11:36 AM
misterearl wrote:Forget the pick and roll.

Amar'e is dealing with an emotional loss that hit him hard. His focus is unpredictable and his physical conditioning is suspect. Hopefully, those emotions do not outpace his physical capacity. What would be the point of rushing him back into the lineup in a fragile emotional state?

Stoudemire will need basketball more than ever as an outlet for his emotions.

Ease him back into the starting lineup by next Wednesday or Friday.

Completely agree- the funeral was only yesterday, and he's planning on returning Monday- thats very very quick. He won't know if it's too soon until he's actually back.

Start him, but keep his minutes down the first few games. Also I'd look to try and cap his minutes at 30-32 per game to keep him fresh in this compressed schedule (same with Melo), now some of the other guys have proven their worth.

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2/12/2012  11:51 AM
I think the best way to go is to start him, let him soak in the Garden love with a nice standing ovation, and play him limited minutes to get settled in. Oh, and hope for a win to lift his spirits at least for a few minutes.
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2/12/2012  11:55 AM
Some good points regarding Amare's feelings after his loss. The thing is we can only speculate how that affects his ability to start and play. He'll talk to the coaches and they'll make a decision based on something stronger than speculation.
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2/12/2012  11:55 AM
misterearl wrote:
markvmc wrote:Newt has always been saner than Earl.

And Newt is a nut job.

Forget the pick and roll. And forget questioning The Answer Man's sanity. Everyone knows he is crazy.

Amar'e is dealing with an emotional loss that hit him hard. smackeddog nailed it when he cited that Amar'e lost a brother and a parent. Stoudemire's focus is unpredictable and his physical conditioning is suspect. Hopefully, those emotions do not outpace his physical capacity. What would be the point of rushing him back into the lineup in a fragile emotional state?

Stoudemire will need basketball more than ever as an outlet for his raw emotions.

Ease him back into the starting lineup by next Wednesday or Friday.

Fair points, all.

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2/12/2012  1:51 PM
The Adjustment Bureau (part 2)

smackeddog wrote:Start him, but keep his minutes down the first few games. Also I'd look to try and cap his minutes at 30-32 per game to keep him fresh in this compressed schedule (same with Melo), now some of the other guys have proven their worth.

Our so-called reserves, Lin included, have earned the respect of the fans and their opposition. Sending them all back to the bench is a sh#tty way to say thank you. They have created a winning playing personality and gutted out a huge win last night, on fumes.

Novak should stay in the rotation for significant minutes. Shump too. Same with Jeffries.

Just curious... would anyone instantly send Lin to the bench if Baron Davis is ready to go?

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2/12/2012  2:09 PM
nixluva wrote:Gotta start STAT!!! Dude is a major part of this team and a beast if you can get him the ball. Teams won't be able to double off of him cuz he's not Jared. STAT WILL SCORE!!! They need to get that chemistry down and no time like the present to get that going.

Not really. You don't "Gotta start STAT!" unless you are looking at his situation from a purely selfish (or one-dimensional) perspective.

Stoudemire should watch some video on how this team has played in his absence.

The chemistry you refer to must be considered on both ends. Not simply on offense.

Stat is more polished on offense but Jeffries is the superior defender. What we gain in Stoudemire's offense MUST be considered WITH what Jeffries has brought, flying around and defending next to Tyson Chandler.

Chemistry also must be considered with the superior defense that Shumpert has played. Don't overlook the boxing out, floor spacing and clutch shooting of Steve Novak. It is not just about scoring points. Will Stoudemire defend and rebound with passion?

If it ain't broke, don't be so quick fix it.

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2/12/2012  2:39 PM
misterearl wrote:
nixluva wrote:Gotta start STAT!!! Dude is a major part of this team and a beast if you can get him the ball. Teams won't be able to double off of him cuz he's not Jared. STAT WILL SCORE!!! They need to get that chemistry down and no time like the present to get that going.

Not really. You don't "Gotta start STAT!" unless you are looking at his situation from a purely selfish (or one-dimensional) perspective.

Stoudemire should watch some video on how this team has played in his absence.

The chemistry you refer to must be considered on both ends. Not simply on offense.

Stat is more polished on offense but Jeffries is the superior defender. What we gain in Stoudemire's offense MUST be considered WITH what Jeffries has brought, flying around and defending next to Tyson Chandler.

Chemistry also must be considered with the superior defense that Shumpert has played. Don't overlook the boxing out, floor spacing and clutch shooting of Steve Novak. It is not just about scoring points. Will Stoudemire defend and rebound with passion?

If it ain't broke, don't be so quick fix it.

It's only fixed when we win a ring...STAT will be at practice on Monday...STAT is our leader... Nuff said...

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2/12/2012  2:43 PM
holfresh wrote:
misterearl wrote:
nixluva wrote:Gotta start STAT!!! Dude is a major part of this team and a beast if you can get him the ball. Teams won't be able to double off of him cuz he's not Jared. STAT WILL SCORE!!! They need to get that chemistry down and no time like the present to get that going.

Not really. You don't "Gotta start STAT!" unless you are looking at his situation from a purely selfish (or one-dimensional) perspective.

Stoudemire should watch some video on how this team has played in his absence.

The chemistry you refer to must be considered on both ends. Not simply on offense.

Stat is more polished on offense but Jeffries is the superior defender. What we gain in Stoudemire's offense MUST be considered WITH what Jeffries has brought, flying around and defending next to Tyson Chandler.

Chemistry also must be considered with the superior defense that Shumpert has played. Don't overlook the boxing out, floor spacing and clutch shooting of Steve Novak. It is not just about scoring points. Will Stoudemire defend and rebound with passion?

If it ain't broke, don't be so quick fix it.

It's only fixed when we win a ring...STAT will be at practice on Monday...STAT is our leader... Nuff said...

as much as i love stat i think tyson is the real leader
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2/12/2012  2:44 PM
Not only will Amare start, He will be the featured Pick and Roll big with Lin. Chandler will be clean up after they double Amare.
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2/12/2012  2:50 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Not only will Amare start, He will be the featured Pick and Roll big with Lin. Chandler will be clean up after they double Amare.

Rumble, young man Rumble!!!

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2/12/2012  3:08 PM
misterearl wrote:The Adjustment Bureau (part 2)

smackeddog wrote:Start him, but keep his minutes down the first few games. Also I'd look to try and cap his minutes at 30-32 per game to keep him fresh in this compressed schedule (same with Melo), now some of the other guys have proven their worth.

Our so-called reserves, Lin included, have earned the respect of the fans and their opposition. Sending them all back to the bench is a sh#tty way to say thank you. They have created a winning playing personality and gutted out a huge win last night, on fumes.

Novak should stay in the rotation for significant minutes. Shump too. Same with Jeffries.

Just curious... would anyone instantly send Lin to the bench if Baron Davis is ready to go?

Umm, Lin is a better PG and has earned his starting role and major minutes. BDiddy should ride pine until he is 100%, then play 15-20 mins a night max.

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2/12/2012  3:14 PM
Lin is also playing without a backup pg which is what baron davis is to me at this point. I think once lin can get some rest in games it will help him even more
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2/12/2012  3:20 PM
What a beautiful dilemma to have...These things have a way of working themselves out....Stay tuned...
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2/12/2012  3:29 PM
Ira wrote:Some good points regarding Amare's feelings after his loss. The thing is we can only speculate how that affects his ability to start and play. He'll talk to the coaches and they'll make a decision based on something stronger than speculation.

Ira-sanity as usual! Rationality is good for our health- Good luck Amear-

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2/12/2012  3:30 PM
The beautiful thing is that this team is only going to get stronger. STAT, Melo, Jorts, Baron... This team is gonna be a team that NO ONE is gonna want to see in the playoffs. The top teams aren't going to want to see a team like NY that will be just as talented but more importantly have a little "Magic" going on with the whole LinSanity thing happening. It wasn't easy for the Heat, Bulls and Celtics to beat the Knicks when they were floundering. This team can use the remaining season to gain chemistry. It doesn't matter to me if we start STAT or not. The basic chemistry and direction of the team is set and these guys rally love each other. They went thru Hell together and stuck together.
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2/12/2012  9:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/12/2012  9:40 PM
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“@Amareisreal (Amar’e Stoudemire)
Another great game tonight Knicks!! It seems like everyone is buying into the system an playing team basketball. I can’t wait to join. GN”

The Answer Man hopes The Garden gives Amar'e an extended welcome when he introduced on Wednesday... and when he goes to the bench.

Regardless of what he does on the court.

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2/12/2012  10:26 PM
misterearl wrote:Forget the pick and roll.

Amar'e is dealing with an emotional loss that hit him hard. His focus is unpredictable and his physical conditioning is suspect. Hopefully, those emotions do not outpace his physical capacity. What would be the point of rushing him back into the lineup in a fragile emotional state?

Stoudemire will need basketball more than ever as an outlet for his emotions.

Ease him back into the starting lineup by next Wednesday or Friday.

Answerman- Amar'e is coming back for Monday's practice. There will be an assessment of his conditioning at that time. If he is deemed ready to go, then his insertion into the starting line-up is the way to go. He needs as much practice with Lin as possible BEFORE Melo rejoins the mix.

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2/13/2012  3:37 AM
Amare will beast to honor his brother.

Drops 36 in first game back, I guarantee this.

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Five Wins In A Row? Bring Amar'e Off The Bench In Toronto

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