jrodmc wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Nalod wrote:(JR) has a bad reputation.

So did Spree.

Yes, I see JR Smith and Spree being almost the same person.

Please stop.

Completely different players and personalities. If I could take back Spree I wouldn't. The guy turned out to be a complete jackass who threw Ewing under the bus and pulled a Stephon Marbury with his "I felt alone out there" act after we got beat by the Raptors. He was the epitome of a piss poor teammate.

Allanfan20 wrote:JR has the same playoff success as Melo, which is very little. He's not a necesity. You didn't answer my question either. Why do we need Smith, who doesn't really do much else besides shoot 3s, besides occasionally use his athleticism to drive and make a nice dunk, when we already have Iman and Novak? Are we really that much better off putting Smith on the floor as opposed to Iman, who plays good D and can score in different ways? Plus he's developing a midrange game.

Smith shoots threes, penetrates, finishes at the basket, runs pnrs, scores in iso... he has a complete offensive game. His jumpshot is wet from any range. He thrives off the ball, but he can also initiate the offense with the ball. It's asinine to compare Smith's offensive repetoire to Shumpert.

Novak and Melo play the same position, so Novak hardly gets any playing unless Melo is out. And Novak can't be our only reliable three-point threat. We need an elite shooter at the SG position to spread the floor for Melo iso and Lin pnr.

almost every NBA contender has some interest in JR. The Lakers, Clippers, Spurs, Bulls (former team), etc.

And we haven't even started talkin bout practice...

misterearl wrote:

Nalod wrote:(JR) has a bad reputation.

So did Spree.

Spree was motivated for while to restore his reputation.

Then he was not.

Nobody questions JR's talent. The guy could be incredible as our 2 guard.

Spree had a bad reputaion.

In the end he lived up to it.

Allanfan20 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

misterearl wrote:

Nalod wrote:(JR) has a bad reputation.

So did Spree.

Yes, I see JR Smith and Spree being almost the same person.

Please stop.

Completely different players and personalities. If I could take back Spree I wouldn't. The guy turned out to be a complete jackass who threw Ewing under the bus and pulled a Stephon Marbury with his "I felt alone out there" act after we got beat by the Raptors. He was the epitome of a piss poor teammate.

Yep, and in his seven years as a pro, JR has shown the propensity and maturity to be the poster child for the perfect teammate and a doctorate in team chemistry.

Spree's game was at both ends of the floor. Please don't compare JR to Spree as a total player.
Junior shoots and dances, when not getting arrested for various things. Please don't try to tell me Smith would not throw Ewing, Clyde, Melo, Tyson, Stat and Lin under the subway tracks.

I would not expect an AllanFan to have anything approaching objectivity to Spree.

When did Jr. Smith suddenly become John Starks reincarnated?

I really preferred the stupidity of the bring back Jamal Crawford movement to this.

nyvector16 wrote:This will probably get a lot of heat on here.. but in my opinion:
Sprewell did more as a player for the Knicks than Allan Houston ever did.

+1
Oh no, didn't you know H20 was the greatest thing to happen to NY Basketball since Ruckers park and Willis Reed?

Spree just gave us the best (and only) quarter of Finals basketball we've had to look back on in the post 70's era.

Houston gave us one running floater and set the standard for disappearing in the second half of games.

misterearl wrote:"Was Spree A Wise Signing By Ernie Grunfeld?"

my question to you misterearl: does Jr Smith + shooting - braindead attitude > Tony Douglas + bench level shooting? Does the baggage outweigh the j? Is Mr. Smith on the bench with Mr. sophomore Fields, and two essentially rookie guards who are just growing into their games going to be a good thing in your eyes? Would you let your daughters hang with Kimho Kardashian?

What evidence do we have to show that Jr Smith is going to mesh with MDA any better than Melo is? Don't we already have enough background psycho babble going on with this team already?

You've got statements from people going all the way back to Smiff's NO days that he's a self-centered, me-first waste of scoring ability.

Make Starbles 25 again. [misdirection to get the thread away from pointless spree comparisons] Do you bring him back from China into this mix right now?

No. I'd rather watch sick shot selection and bad threes coming from Toney D with no back page fodder, thank you.

Let JR stay in the giant island of misfit NBA toys permanently. He can score a million points at this rate. I will be cheering for him as long as he keeps that Shaolin uniform on.

and who the **** cares about chemistry with D'Antoni when dude is done after this season, anyway?

subzero0 wrote:I think that JR. Smiths personality is not a good match for this Knicks team. That said, we gave Spree a chance and didnt let us down. With that in mind I think we can give him a chance if he wants to come here for the minimum. The first instance of him having a personality clash with any of the other Knick players we tell him to clear out his locker and stay home.

That would be nice possible scenario in a world without NBA contracts and if the person in question was an NBDL scrub.
Hopefully this whole thing is just so he squeezes a better deal out of the Clips or Kobe & co.

It'd be nice to have Amar'e back healthy and with a clear mind, too.