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2/3/2012  12:55 AM
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JCrusher wrote:i would love felton and the others to come back but i doubt he would take cheap money from us again

So would you trade Melo and Chandler for Gallo (17.6), Moz (5.5) and Felton (fat) now?

Gallo drops 17.6 points on 6.1 free throw attempts plus only 12 shots per game and he turns the ball over only 1.6 times in 34 minutes per game. Plus 1.4 steals, 5 rebounds, 2.6 assists.

What?? Read that line, man. Gallinari I wouldn't trade straight up for Melo right now if I'm Denver, and the announcers on the game just mentioned the trade too.

So he will def get a max contract right? from any team. Gallo has a PG. The knicks don't. Enough with the Melo hate - he can average close to 30 a game. He is also a bit hurt and has no PG.

Gallo does not come to his jock strap.

Yea, he just SONS him every time they play and came into Melo's new home in New York and dropped 37 on his head.

So Melo could get a max from any team and so can Gallo The Great?

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2/3/2012  12:55 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:billups was a short term solution Felton could've been longterm

They had the same length contract. And, Billups is a much better player. Felton is fat now and sux. Shooting 20 pct from 3! woulda fit right in here.

His heart was ripped out of his body by the trade. The guy felt like he found a home, the team was improving and winning games, he would have been an All-Star this season with New York.

What's happened here with the Melo trade will go down as one of the worst trades in history of the NBA. When this luster wears off, forget it.

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2/3/2012  12:58 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:i would love felton and the others to come back but i doubt he would take cheap money from us again

So would you trade Melo and Chandler for Gallo (17.6), Moz (5.5) and Felton (fat) now?

Gallo drops 17.6 points on 6.1 free throw attempts plus only 12 shots per game and he turns the ball over only 1.6 times in 34 minutes per game. Plus 1.4 steals, 5 rebounds, 2.6 assists.

What?? Read that line, man. Gallinari I wouldn't trade straight up for Melo right now if I'm Denver, and the announcers on the game just mentioned the trade too.

So he will def get a max contract right? from any team. Gallo has a PG. The knicks don't. Enough with the Melo hate - he can average close to 30 a game. He is also a bit hurt and has no PG.

Gallo does not come to his jock strap.

Yea, he just SONS him every time they play and came into Melo's new home in New York and dropped 37 on his head.

So Melo could get a max from any team and so can Gallo The Great?

That has nothing to do with anything.

Gallo at Gallo money is a better buy than Melo at Melo money. And, in a vacuum, I feel I would have a better team paying Gallinari max than Melo max right now. I would still have two max players, but they would be a beast of a team. Amar'e and Gallinari were building something and it was torn down.

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2/3/2012  12:59 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:billups was a short term solution Felton could've been longterm

They had the same length contract. And, Billups is a much better player. Felton is fat now and sux. Shooting 20 pct from 3! woulda fit right in here.

His heart was ripped out of his body by the trade. The guy felt like he found a home, the team was improving and winning games, he would have been an All-Star this season with New York.

What's happened here with the Melo trade will go down as one of the worst trades in history of the NBA. When this luster wears off, forget it.

Easy to say that now when Denver has a good coach and a good team with PG's!!

Give Melo one good PG and see how the team does.

This trade cannot be judged for 3-4 more years.

Who says Felton would not have come in after the lockout a fatso like now? And Portland is a good team which gives him reason to play hard.

Look at Billups this year. He is a solid proffesional.

The chandler move will haunt them for years but you were probably for that so you won't complain.

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2/3/2012  1:01 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:billups was a short term solution Felton could've been longterm

They had the same length contract. And, Billups is a much better player. Felton is fat now and sux. Shooting 20 pct from 3! woulda fit right in here.

They could've resigned Felton if they were creative. Whatever numbers Felton puts up elsewhere is irrelevant because he is one of the few PGs who fit the Dantoni system or any run and gun system

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2/3/2012  1:02 AM
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gunsnewing wrote:billups was a short term solution Felton could've been longterm

They had the same length contract. And, Billups is a much better player. Felton is fat now and sux. Shooting 20 pct from 3! woulda fit right in here.

His heart was ripped out of his body by the trade. The guy felt like he found a home, the team was improving and winning games, he would have been an All-Star this season with New York.

What's happened here with the Melo trade will go down as one of the worst trades in history of the NBA. When this luster wears off, forget it.

Easy to say that now when Denver has a good coach and a good team with PG's!!

Give Melo one good PG and see how the team does.

This trade cannot be judged for 3-4 more years.

Who says Felton would not have come in after the lockout a fatso like now? And Portland is a good team which gives him reason to play hard.

Look at Billups this year. He is a solid professional.

The chandler move will haunt them for years but you were probably for that so you won't complain.

Yea right! If we put a value, Q, on the team that was torn down and compare it to 'X', the value of the second team that was torn down (with Billups), Q >> X.

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2/3/2012  1:03 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:i would love felton and the others to come back but i doubt he would take cheap money from us again

So would you trade Melo and Chandler for Gallo (17.6), Moz (5.5) and Felton (fat) now?

Gallo drops 17.6 points on 6.1 free throw attempts plus only 12 shots per game and he turns the ball over only 1.6 times in 34 minutes per game. Plus 1.4 steals, 5 rebounds, 2.6 assists.

What?? Read that line, man. Gallinari I wouldn't trade straight up for Melo right now if I'm Denver, and the announcers on the game just mentioned the trade too.

So he will def get a max contract right? from any team. Gallo has a PG. The knicks don't. Enough with the Melo hate - he can average close to 30 a game. He is also a bit hurt and has no PG.

Gallo does not come to his jock strap.

Yea, he just SONS him every time they play and came into Melo's new home in New York and dropped 37 on his head.

So Melo could get a max from any team and so can Gallo The Great?

That has nothing to do with anything.

Gallo at Gallo money is a better buy than Melo at Melo money. And, in a vacuum, I feel I would have a better team paying Gallinari max than Melo max right now. I would still have two max players, but they would be a beast of a team. Amar'e and Gallinari were building something and it was torn down.

He was the most overrated inconsistent player for us. His best quality is the crazy body jiration to draw fouls.

Don't get me wrong, he is a nice player but no superstar. He is also made better by a better team with a better coach.

Melo is hurt and he is playing with TD. This is typical Ewing type bashing.

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2/3/2012  1:04 AM
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:i would love felton and the others to come back but i doubt he would take cheap money from us again

So would you trade Melo and Chandler for Gallo (17.6), Moz (5.5) and Felton (fat) now?

Gallo drops 17.6 points on 6.1 free throw attempts plus only 12 shots per game and he turns the ball over only 1.6 times in 34 minutes per game. Plus 1.4 steals, 5 rebounds, 2.6 assists.

What?? Read that line, man. Gallinari I wouldn't trade straight up for Melo right now if I'm Denver, and the announcers on the game just mentioned the trade too.

So he will def get a max contract right? from any team. Gallo has a PG. The knicks don't. Enough with the Melo hate - he can average close to 30 a game. He is also a bit hurt and has no PG.

Gallo does not come to his jock strap.

Yea, he just SONS him every time they play and came into Melo's new home in New York and dropped 37 on his head.

So Melo could get a max from any team and so can Gallo The Great?

That has nothing to do with anything.

Gallo at Gallo money is a better buy than Melo at Melo money. And, in a vacuum, I feel I would have a better team paying Gallinari max than Melo max right now. I would still have two max players, but they would be a beast of a team. Amar'e and Gallinari were building something and it was torn down.

He was the most overrated inconsistent player for us. His best quality is the crazy body jiration to draw fouls.

Don't get me wrong, he is a nice player but no superstar. He is also made better by a better team with a better coach.

Melo is hurt and he is playing with TD. This is typical Ewing type bashing.

Ewing gave his balls to the Knicks. Don't you compare Melo to Ewing.

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2/3/2012  1:04 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:billups was a short term solution Felton could've been longterm

They had the same length contract. And, Billups is a much better player. Felton is fat now and sux. Shooting 20 pct from 3! woulda fit right in here.

His heart was ripped out of his body by the trade. The guy felt like he found a home, the team was improving and winning games, he would have been an All-Star this season with New York.

What's happened here with the Melo trade will go down as one of the worst trades in history of the NBA. When this luster wears off, forget it.

Easy to say that now when Denver has a good coach and a good team with PG's!!

Give Melo one good PG and see how the team does.

This trade cannot be judged for 3-4 more years.

Who says Felton would not have come in after the lockout a fatso like now? And Portland is a good team which gives him reason to play hard.

Look at Billups this year. He is a solid professional.

The chandler move will haunt them for years but you were probably for that so you won't complain.

Yea right! If we put a value, Q, on the team that was torn down and compare it to 'X', the value of the second team that was torn down (with Billups), Q >> X.

I might be dumb but I have no idea what the hell you said.

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2/3/2012  1:05 AM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
JCrusher wrote:i would love felton and the others to come back but i doubt he would take cheap money from us again

So would you trade Melo and Chandler for Gallo (17.6), Moz (5.5) and Felton (fat) now?

Gallo drops 17.6 points on 6.1 free throw attempts plus only 12 shots per game and he turns the ball over only 1.6 times in 34 minutes per game. Plus 1.4 steals, 5 rebounds, 2.6 assists.

What?? Read that line, man. Gallinari I wouldn't trade straight up for Melo right now if I'm Denver, and the announcers on the game just mentioned the trade too.

So he will def get a max contract right? from any team. Gallo has a PG. The knicks don't. Enough with the Melo hate - he can average close to 30 a game. He is also a bit hurt and has no PG.

Gallo does not come to his jock strap.

Yea, he just SONS him every time they play and came into Melo's new home in New York and dropped 37 on his head.

So Melo could get a max from any team and so can Gallo The Great?

That has nothing to do with anything.

Gallo at Gallo money is a better buy than Melo at Melo money. And, in a vacuum, I feel I would have a better team paying Gallinari max than Melo max right now. I would still have two max players, but they would be a beast of a team. Amar'e and Gallinari were building something and it was torn down.

He was the most overrated inconsistent player for us. His best quality is the crazy body jiration to draw fouls.

Don't get me wrong, he is a nice player but no superstar. He is also made better by a better team with a better coach.

Melo is hurt and he is playing with TD. This is typical Ewing type bashing.

Ewing gave his balls to the Knicks. Don't you compare Melo to Ewing.

Ewing was ripped day in and day out.

Give Melo a PG and a coach that suits HIM - then compare.

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2/3/2012  10:13 AM
I liked Felton while he was here, but you could see him physically and mentally fading after the half season point even before the trade. Out of the players Holfresh listed above, probably the most realistic candidates for Knicks MLE are:

Nash
Hinrich
Sessions
Davis(If he still has anything left)

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2/3/2012  10:16 AM
Fuck Melo. He's a bitch. Always has been always will be.

Now we have to give him a coach and a point guard. He made the decision to **** on his teammates and force a trade. We foolishly gutted the entire team for a guy that is an isolation player, a diva and a numbers guy.

The trade sucks. There is no judging. You don't subtract a superstar and get better. We are terrible. One of the worst teams in the NBA and that's a fact. We have had an easy schedule and it's hard for us to win games.

Gallo and Chandler together are better than Melo. Throw in Moz, AR, Felton and draft picks and you had a tremendous foundation. We were a few small pieces away from being extremely dangerous. I don't want to hear we weren't winning a title. We are so much further now.

Think about improvement from Gallo and Moz, TD lost all confidence, Fields not losing his way, Shumpert off the bench and additional player for 8-12MM in the offseason. We would be right there with the Bulls and the Heat.

Maybe you sign a Jamal Crawford and Kris Humpries for 13MM or add a Carl Landry. You beat teams with plans. We didn't have one and this is the team you get.

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2/3/2012  11:06 AM
No way Felton would ever sign with us- we screwed him over last season (he signed with us at a discount), plus next season we won't have D'Antoni as coach, so it's not like he'd even be attracted by our system even if he got over us screwing him.

Besides which, I think we saw the best Felton will ever play for a one or two month stretch last season, but he was already coming back down to earth before we traded him. He's a 40% FG guy, 30% 3pt- essentially just an average PG. Sure thats much better than anything we have now, but I worry about his weight issues- I know it was a lockout, but if a player can show up that over weight in a contract year, it's worrying.

I liked him, but it's not going to happen.

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2/3/2012  11:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2012  11:46 AM
MS wrote:Fuck Melo. He's a bitch. Always has been always will be.

Now we have to give him a coach and a point guard. He made the decision to **** on his teammates and force a trade. We foolishly gutted the entire team for a guy that is an isolation player, a diva and a numbers guy.

The trade sucks. There is no judging. You don't subtract a superstar and get better. We are terrible. One of the worst teams in the NBA and that's a fact. We have had an easy schedule and it's hard for us to win games.

Gallo and Chandler together are better than Melo. Throw in Moz, AR, Felton and draft picks and you had a tremendous foundation. We were a few small pieces away from being extremely dangerous. I don't want to hear we weren't winning a title. We are so much further now.

Think about improvement from Gallo and Moz, TD lost all confidence, Fields not losing his way, Shumpert off the bench and additional player for 8-12MM in the offseason. We would be right there with the Bulls and the Heat.
Maybe you sign a Jamal Crawford and Kris Humpries for 13MM or add a Carl Landry. You beat teams with plans. We didn't have one and this is the team you get.

Lol at you thinking Gallo, Chandler, and co were leading us to a championship. It's time to get over the trade and be realistic. Not saying this is a championship team now, but we were set up for perennial first round exits with a core of Stat, Gallo, and Chandler. And no offense to these players because i loved them, but they aren't leading anyone to a title. As knick fans we tend to overrate our own players, but overrating our previous players like this is just crazy. Felton, Gallo, Chandler, Stat, Fields, and Moz was not a team designed to beat the Heat and Bulls. And when forced to pay all of those players, there would have been zero flexibility to improve.

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2/3/2012  11:46 AM
MS wrote:Fuck Melo. He's a bitch. Always has been always will be.

Now we have to give him a coach and a point guard. He made the decision to **** on his teammates and force a trade. We foolishly gutted the entire team for a guy that is an isolation player, a diva and a numbers guy.

The trade sucks. There is no judging. You don't subtract a superstar and get better. We are terrible. One of the worst teams in the NBA and that's a fact. We have had an easy schedule and it's hard for us to win games.

Gallo and Chandler together are better than Melo. Throw in Moz, AR, Felton and draft picks and you had a tremendous foundation. We were a few small pieces away from being extremely dangerous. I don't want to hear we weren't winning a title. We are so much further now.

Think about improvement from Gallo and Moz, TD lost all confidence, Fields not losing his way, Shumpert off the bench and additional player for 8-12MM in the offseason. We would be right there with the Bulls and the Heat.

Maybe you sign a Jamal Crawford and Kris Humpries for 13MM or add a Carl Landry. You beat teams with plans. We didn't have one and this is the team you get.

go find a Nuggets forum

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2/3/2012  11:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/3/2012  11:57 AM
Felton slowed down because he was playing too minutes minutes same with Duhon. Both guys fit the Dantoni system so well that he overused them. If only they were freaks of nature like Nash
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2/3/2012  11:53 AM
gunsnewing wrote:Felton slowed down because he was playing too minutes minutes same with Duhon. Both guys fit the Dantoni system so well that he overused them

We should honestly look to bring back Duhon in a trade. He's a strong backup PG who we know can excel here if we need to give him starters minutes.
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2/3/2012  12:00 PM
It's just getting tired being a Knicks fan. Loyalty only goes so far when you're dealing with Dolan, Layden, Isiah, etc. The brand is pathetic, get stars to market no matter the cost if they don't fit it's ok because people will pay.

If you look at what the Clippers gave up for Paul it's not impressive. A pic in the 10-15 range, Eric Gordon who can't stay heathly, an expiring deal and and young unproven player. At this point I think you would rather have a Felton, Fields, Gallo or Chandler package. I think you would rather have Gallo at 11MM then Melo at 20MM.

Our assets were tradeable. There value would increase. We didn't need to sign them all to big contracts. Someone like Crawford although I didn't love his game would have fit the system and what we needed off the bench. And right now we have very little room to improve and one prospect in Iman.

You want team guys. Melo is not a team guy.

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2/3/2012  12:32 PM
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gunsnewing wrote:Felton slowed down because he was playing too minutes minutes same with Duhon. Both guys fit the Dantoni system so well that he overused them

We should honestly look to bring back Duhon in a trade. He's a strong backup PG who we know can excel here if we need to give him starters minutes.

Not sure if serious!

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2/3/2012  12:37 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
gunsnewing wrote:Felton slowed down because he was playing too minutes minutes same with Duhon. Both guys fit the Dantoni system so well that he overused them

We should honestly look to bring back Duhon in a trade. He's a strong backup PG who we know can excel here if we need to give him starters minutes.

Not sure if serious!

I'm very serious. Duhon was a solid stopgap then, why wouldn't he be a solid stopgap now? We would have a winning record with him running the point.

Not sure Knicks should try to get Felton in the offseason for Mid Level Exception

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