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D'Antoni nearing LOSING the Knickerbocker team: IF you listen to Tyson Chandler & Amare Stoudemire rants/rips
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mrKnickShot
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1/30/2012  12:38 PM
nixluva wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

couldn't agree more dude.

the posting on a whole here has taken a turn for the worse - alot of gimmick guys.

You guys actually have common sense and reading comprehension!!! I don't know what the other guys are talking about. They talk so much garbage and make up so much crap it's embarrassing. That's why I try to use logic and fully explain what I think the issues are. If someone disagrees based on FACTS or LOGIC then that's cool, but to just show bias and twist every news article to try and support that bias is lame. They can call me names like an 8 yr old, but in the end they're only embarrassing themselves.

Fans don't care about dirty words like "facts" and "logic". They just want to win and don't want to hear why its not working and who's fault it is.

If something is not working, they want to try something else. This is NY and this is the way it will always be in NY.

Try to explain "facts" and "logic" and "excuses" and "reasons" why its not someone fault to George Steinbrenner - I am sure he had no interest in hearing them. JUST WIN ...

Or Else ...

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nixluva
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1/30/2012  1:20 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

couldn't agree more dude.

the posting on a whole here has taken a turn for the worse - alot of gimmick guys.

You guys actually have common sense and reading comprehension!!! I don't know what the other guys are talking about. They talk so much garbage and make up so much crap it's embarrassing. That's why I try to use logic and fully explain what I think the issues are. If someone disagrees based on FACTS or LOGIC then that's cool, but to just show bias and twist every news article to try and support that bias is lame. They can call me names like an 8 yr old, but in the end they're only embarrassing themselves.

Fans don't care about dirty words like "facts" and "logic". They just want to win and don't want to hear why its not working and who's fault it is.

If something is not working, they want to try something else. This is NY and this is the way it will always be in NY.

Try to explain "facts" and "logic" and "excuses" and "reasons" why its not someone fault to George Steinbrenner - I am sure he had no interest in hearing them. JUST WIN ...

Or Else ...

Another word for mindless overreaction is stupidity. It's one thing for casual fans to not understand or care to understand the intricate details of what makes a team successful or not. This is a fan forum for the dedicated fan. We should be much more savvy and informed. When you read the forums and reactions to articles on the web it's amazing how many fans don't know a thing about what's really going on.

I don't believe in knee jerk reactions, which is why I always preach patience. It's better to look deeper when things aren't going well and try to see the real reason things aren't working. Knee Jerk is fire the coach! Knee Jerk is Melo is a cancer! Knee Jerk is STAT is overrated and overpaid! Knee Jerk is blow up the team or tank the season!

NO! How about we analyze and fix the real problem with a logical approach? The real needs are a real PG and at least one more legit Player to add to the depth. Those moves will bring better balance to the team and push role players down the rotation where they belong.

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1/30/2012  2:39 PM
Nalod wrote:TC played for MDA in the olympics, as did melo, and Amare for most of his career.

They looked forward to playing in this system.

He did more with less last season.

So why the problem?

Injuries? No point guard?

https:// It's not so hard.
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1/30/2012  3:09 PM
If Melo is a cancer, and Karl is in remisson, should MDA get checked for it?
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1/30/2012  7:09 PM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

couldn't agree more dude.

the posting on a whole here has taken a turn for the worse - alot of gimmick guys.

You guys actually have common sense and reading comprehension!!! I don't know what the other guys are talking about. They talk so much garbage and make up so much crap it's embarrassing. That's why I try to use logic and fully explain what I think the issues are. If someone disagrees based on FACTS or LOGIC then that's cool, but to just show bias and twist every news article to try and support that bias is lame. They can call me names like an 8 yr old, but in the end they're only embarrassing themselves.

Fans don't care about dirty words like "facts" and "logic". They just want to win and don't want to hear why its not working and who's fault it is.

If something is not working, they want to try something else. This is NY and this is the way it will always be in NY.

Try to explain "facts" and "logic" and "excuses" and "reasons" why its not someone fault to George Steinbrenner - I am sure he had no interest in hearing them. JUST WIN ...

Or Else ...

Another word for mindless overreaction is stupidity. It's one thing for casual fans to not understand or care to understand the intricate details of what makes a team successful or not. This is a fan forum for the dedicated fan. We should be much more savvy and informed. When you read the forums and reactions to articles on the web it's amazing how many fans don't know a thing about what's really going on.

I don't believe in knee jerk reactions, which is why I always preach patience. It's better to look deeper when things aren't going well and try to see the real reason things aren't working. Knee Jerk is fire the coach! Knee Jerk is Melo is a cancer! Knee Jerk is STAT is overrated and overpaid! Knee Jerk is blow up the team or tank the season!

NO! How about we analyze and fix the real problem with a logical approach? The real needs are a real PG and at least one more legit Player to add to the depth. Those moves will bring better balance to the team and push role players down the rotation where they belong.

Couldn't they have "analyzed and fixed the real problems" instead of firing Paul Westphal? Caldwell in Indy (NO PEYTON MANNING!!)?

You can say that for any or many coaches that get fired or need to get fired.

You need to win to keep your job. Numbers and Stats of old (eventually) won't help you keep it.

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1/30/2012  7:09 PM
Nalod wrote:If Melo is a cancer, and Karl is in remisson, should MDA get checked for it?

Haha - it is catchy

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1/30/2012  8:56 PM
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

couldn't agree more dude.

the posting on a whole here has taken a turn for the worse - alot of gimmick guys.

You guys actually have common sense and reading comprehension!!! I don't know what the other guys are talking about. They talk so much garbage and make up so much crap it's embarrassing. That's why I try to use logic and fully explain what I think the issues are. If someone disagrees based on FACTS or LOGIC then that's cool, but to just show bias and twist every news article to try and support that bias is lame. They can call me names like an 8 yr old, but in the end they're only embarrassing themselves.

Fans don't care about dirty words like "facts" and "logic". They just want to win and don't want to hear why its not working and who's fault it is.

If something is not working, they want to try something else. This is NY and this is the way it will always be in NY.

Try to explain "facts" and "logic" and "excuses" and "reasons" why its not someone fault to George Steinbrenner - I am sure he had no interest in hearing them. JUST WIN ...

Or Else ...

Another word for mindless overreaction is stupidity. It's one thing for casual fans to not understand or care to understand the intricate details of what makes a team successful or not. This is a fan forum for the dedicated fan. We should be much more savvy and informed. When you read the forums and reactions to articles on the web it's amazing how many fans don't know a thing about what's really going on.

I don't believe in knee jerk reactions, which is why I always preach patience. It's better to look deeper when things aren't going well and try to see the real reason things aren't working. Knee Jerk is fire the coach! Knee Jerk is Melo is a cancer! Knee Jerk is STAT is overrated and overpaid! Knee Jerk is blow up the team or tank the season!

NO! How about we analyze and fix the real problem with a logical approach? The real needs are a real PG and at least one more legit Player to add to the depth. Those moves will bring better balance to the team and push role players down the rotation where they belong.

Couldn't they have "analyzed and fixed the real problems" instead of firing Paul Westphal? Caldwell in Indy (NO PEYTON MANNING!!)?

You can say that for any or many coaches that get fired or need to get fired.

You need to win to keep your job. Numbers and Stats of old (eventually) won't help you keep it.


Bip has a now famous reaction to this kind of thinking.

Bippity10 wrote:hey I have an idea. Let's fire D'Antoni and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach.
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1/30/2012  9:56 PM
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mrKnickShot wrote:
nixluva wrote:
nyk4ever wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

couldn't agree more dude.

the posting on a whole here has taken a turn for the worse - alot of gimmick guys.

You guys actually have common sense and reading comprehension!!! I don't know what the other guys are talking about. They talk so much garbage and make up so much crap it's embarrassing. That's why I try to use logic and fully explain what I think the issues are. If someone disagrees based on FACTS or LOGIC then that's cool, but to just show bias and twist every news article to try and support that bias is lame. They can call me names like an 8 yr old, but in the end they're only embarrassing themselves.

Fans don't care about dirty words like "facts" and "logic". They just want to win and don't want to hear why its not working and who's fault it is.

If something is not working, they want to try something else. This is NY and this is the way it will always be in NY.

Try to explain "facts" and "logic" and "excuses" and "reasons" why its not someone fault to George Steinbrenner - I am sure he had no interest in hearing them. JUST WIN ...

Or Else ...

Another word for mindless overreaction is stupidity. It's one thing for casual fans to not understand or care to understand the intricate details of what makes a team successful or not. This is a fan forum for the dedicated fan. We should be much more savvy and informed. When you read the forums and reactions to articles on the web it's amazing how many fans don't know a thing about what's really going on.

I don't believe in knee jerk reactions, which is why I always preach patience. It's better to look deeper when things aren't going well and try to see the real reason things aren't working. Knee Jerk is fire the coach! Knee Jerk is Melo is a cancer! Knee Jerk is STAT is overrated and overpaid! Knee Jerk is blow up the team or tank the season!

NO! How about we analyze and fix the real problem with a logical approach? The real needs are a real PG and at least one more legit Player to add to the depth. Those moves will bring better balance to the team and push role players down the rotation where they belong.

Couldn't they have "analyzed and fixed the real problems" instead of firing Paul Westphal? Caldwell in Indy (NO PEYTON MANNING!!)?

You can say that for any or many coaches that get fired or need to get fired.

You need to win to keep your job. Numbers and Stats of old (eventually) won't help you keep it.


Bip has a now famous reaction to this kind of thinking.

Bippity10 wrote:hey I have an idea. Let's fire D'Antoni and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach. Then after that coach gets settled in we can gut the roster and then bring in new players that don't fit that coaches style. Then we can tell that coach to shut up and stop complaining and win with what we gave you. Then we can fire that coach and hire a new coach.

Funny, yet sad. But this is how sports (and the corporate world) work. It maybe unfair but it is a fact of life. Sometimes you are given the tools to win - and sometime you work for a TOOL who inhibit your chances of winning.

Moral of the story? Don't accept a job offer for 8 million per if it means you will have to work for a TOOL and get screwed.

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1/30/2012  11:09 PM
BigRedDog wrote:This thread is what is wrong with so many people on the forum. Twisting the words by players . Amare and Chandler were actually defending Dantoni. In the post today- "Stoudemire deflects heat from Knicks coach D'Antoni"
"At the very least, embattled Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni has the support of Amar’e Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler.
Those players’ cutting postgame remarks late Saturday night in Houston were aimed at their teammates, not at a coaching staff under fire."

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/hot_mike_seat_MHIml1AsgX9reKfLPjntdM

This isnt backwards at all

First of all the line that Baron and Melo don't want to play is hogwash
D'Antoni was touted at day before its known, to Give Melo that time off. I do not understand why D'Antoni is off hook here ?
whats going on ?

Do you really believe for a sec. of MDA wants MELO to play (hurt) and went to him and told Melo "he's needed"
Despite Melo poor play you think Melo gonna tell coach he aint OR cant play ?

That decision isnt Melo's alone.

2nd whether Tyson and Amare support coach in remarks is Irrelevant. Tyson gets 1st yr pass here as newbie
But this is same Amare whom ripped D'Antoni for NO D' when he left Phoenix to NY long before Amare decides
the $$$ and D'Antoni is a marriage for his future.

Sounds hippocritcal to me here man!
Your support for D'Antoni should be a LEADER.
I dont see Amare leading Squat calling or or Critiquing teammates whom NONE can walk in his shows Talentwise

You show by examples,
Melo poor play and all has done poor job also leading.

Which comes to D'Antoni. Whom's he leading ? this team ?
D'Antoni needs to keep this team together & simply FAILs

All of sudden Mr Amare opens up his mouth cause he finally has 1-2 decent/fair games in a row
compared to his NON-show squat diddly 0 performances and he hide on bench and in dark glasses.

Yep we know PG is needed to make Amare go.
One reason Amare can speak for MDA is cause MDA dont care if Amare dont PLAY D'
as long as Amare scores/rebounds ..as I see it Amare hasnt boarded OR Scored too well yet this season.

The team locker room is near fractured but can be fixed.
So the leaders here Amare and Tyson (no Melo) stood up

Lets see some WINS

There is no hope right now until you win! few games

To blame younger players in press is Garbage!

Lets see Amare OR his Star or Tyson
rip Iman or Douglas Or Walker on the court when they do Stupid Jumpers and throw the games away with selfish play

Let me and all of us see that eh ?
We dont see D'Antoni even ripping anyone else but Iman and Douglas which doesn nothing to them eh ?
When we going to see D'Antoni rip Melo or Amare during a winnable game eh ?

Sounds like a together team to fans eh ?
I dont know which we watching I dont & cant see it yet..

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1/30/2012  11:36 PM
Another thing
MELO been poor all season

But same folks whom many supported Melo carrying Knicks on his back last yr push to edge into playoffs

Same MELO whom lit fans heart and nearly DAGGERED CELTICs by himself in NBA Playoffs series when he had no help,
and played CELTs as tough as you can in a 4 Game sweep before Knicks crumbled

Yea Melo been poor
but if he turns it around and NY is relevant in March again (regardless of coach)
Same Melo these thrashers will be loving Anthony once again.

Flip flop back and forth.

Lets see Amare turn around his year as well. He's getting paid well & I dont know of any
Stoudemire injuries.

As far as Melo as his mates poor play as shown whom's Anthony gonna trust ? in game
if these guys (Fields, Amare, Toney, Shumpert..ect) shows lacking confidence in their offensive game

What kind of team is that ? At least MELO has guts to man up at times if Others ain't going to step up
in games and show some guts.

So far whether we wanna hear it or not
Melo & Tyson Chandler shows spurts of fire and toughness and also they don't like whats going down On court
and play.

The rest of Knicks seem to accepting to a BUTT whipping, to poor passes, to turnovers galore
to Smack talk and walk ( B.Jennings, A.Harrington) and rest of NBA laughing at their arr-sses as Knicks get whacked by the WEAK

At least Tyson C. knocks some BUTT on floor & gets T'. Its silly but shows emotionally into it.
Don't agree with Melo getting tossed in BUCKs whipping to Knicks ..at least some disgust at Jennings mocking NY Melo did not stand for it. Even the Injured Harrelson has guts to get up into face of opposition at times

Other Knicks need to get some attitude instead of feeling sorry for their offense, their coach and their game losses
as Amare, Toney, Fields, all look sorry for themselves when its going wrong.

Tired of it.

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D'Antoni nearing LOSING the Knickerbocker team: IF you listen to Tyson Chandler & Amare Stoudemire rants/rips

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