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Trade for a PG or make this year irrelevant
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misterearl
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1/21/2012  5:55 PM
There are NO NBA teams looking to part with quality guards. The only thing the Knicks can do is hope that Jeremy Lin gets in game shape.

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Lin
Landry
Shumpert (let Carmelo heal)
Amar'e
Tyson Chandler

Two years to build quality depth. Two Years. Get used to it.

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1/21/2012  5:58 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i agree that the need for a PG is glaring. but baron is, by most accounts, about 2 weeks away.

and they really have nothing to trade for a PG, unless they want to consider breaking up the core.

BUT, i will say if baron plays and doesn't work, you might have to think about trading amar'e or melo to make the roster more balanced.

I don't think we need to use the core (Melo, Amar'e, Tyson, even Shump if you consider him that important) in order to get an adequate PG for this team. As you say, Baron may be a few weeks away, but a big point in what I'm saying is that you can't put all your hopes in Baron, who remains a big question mark. This team already needs a PG and two or more weeks without one may make it impossible to make the playoffs in April. Even when Baron comes back, we will need a solid backup PG to spell Baron, who shouldn't see heavy minutes at first.

That is why I think this team should check on the availability of guys like Sessions, Rindour or the likes.

if you aren't trading melo, amar'e, tyson, shump... there is NO ONE on this roster to trade. no one.

the additions this team is making is a healthy baron davis and then possibly jr smith or kmart for the 2.5M exception. that's it. and that might well be enough. don't say wilson or aaron brooks, neither of those guys is happening.

be realistic. what team is going to look at our roster and want to trade SESSIONS OR RIDNOUR FOR OUR GARBAGE??!??! do you really think they don't watch this team play? come on. be realistic.

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misterearl
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1/21/2012  6:09 PM
what crzymdups said - be realistic

The Knicks need TWO guards not named Baron Davis.

Based on his medical charts, Baron Davis should NOT be considered as anything but a longshot. Not a solution.

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1/29/2012  7:48 AM
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Turmoil is at full speed and D'Antoni can't make it more obvious he has no point guard to play with than to play Lin for 20 minutes with the game on the line (sorta).

If the plan is to tank (doesn't seem farfetched anymore) then stay put or rest Amar'e and Chandler.

Since it isn't, yet, then management owes this team a chance with a true point guard. When the best and only answer at PG is Jeremy Lin, you KNOW a move for a point guard is a necessary move and not just for making any move.

The way Amar'e and Chandler talked yesterday, this season is on the verge of being irrelevant. A PG would probably not make us contenders, but right now I think everybody would settle on just being solid.

This isn't rock bottom only because this team still has potential to make it worse. But the truth is, the season has gone as terrible as it could.

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1/29/2012  8:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/29/2012  8:14 AM
Knicksfan wrote:7-13

Turmoil is at full speed and D'Antoni can't make it more obvious he has no point guard to play with than to play Lin for 20 minutes with the game on the line (sorta).

If the plan is to tank (doesn't seem farfetched anymore) then stay put or rest Amar'e and Chandler.

Since it isn't, yet, then management owes this team a chance with a true point guard. When the best and only answer at PG is Jeremy Lin, you KNOW a move for a point guard is a necessary move and not just for making any move.

The way Amar'e and Chandler talked yesterday, this season is on the verge of being irrelevant. A PG would probably not make us contenders, but right now I think everybody would settle on just being solid.

This isn't rock bottom only because this team still has potential to make it worse. But the truth is, the season has gone as terrible as it could.


The Knicks have never in Dolan's history tanked. It's not immediately profitable.

BTW, Read this thread for entertainment: http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=40277&page=1
Most predictions were that we'd go about 42-24.

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1/29/2012  9:02 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:7-13

Turmoil is at full speed and D'Antoni can't make it more obvious he has no point guard to play with than to play Lin for 20 minutes with the game on the line (sorta).

If the plan is to tank (doesn't seem farfetched anymore) then stay put or rest Amar'e and Chandler.

Since it isn't, yet, then management owes this team a chance with a true point guard. When the best and only answer at PG is Jeremy Lin, you KNOW a move for a point guard is a necessary move and not just for making any move.

The way Amar'e and Chandler talked yesterday, this season is on the verge of being irrelevant. A PG would probably not make us contenders, but right now I think everybody would settle on just being solid.

This isn't rock bottom only because this team still has potential to make it worse. But the truth is, the season has gone as terrible as it could.


The Knicks have never in Dolan's history tanked. It's not immediately profitable.

BTW, Read this thread for entertainment: http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=40277&page=1
Most predictions were that we'd go about 42-24.

Great Flashback... and oh so entertaining.

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"What Really Happens

December - Knicks defeat the Celtics on opening night, in double overtime. Josh Harrellson pops Kevin Garnett under the rim and the message has been sent. Carmelo smiles during the fracas because that is how he rolls. Some guys simply play relaxed, while others feel compelled to frown and grit their teeth. People misunderstood the gracefulness and approach of Duane Thomas, Jim Brown, Gary Templeton and Hank Aaron as well.

January - the games feel like pickup runs at the park, guys are getting acquainted, beat writers get nervous and try to stir controversy after a three game losing streak on the west coast swing. The rotation is an open audition."

The rotation is an open audition.

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1/29/2012  11:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/29/2012  11:39 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:7-13

Turmoil is at full speed and D'Antoni can't make it more obvious he has no point guard to play with than to play Lin for 20 minutes with the game on the line (sorta).

If the plan is to tank (doesn't seem farfetched anymore) then stay put or rest Amar'e and Chandler.

Since it isn't, yet, then management owes this team a chance with a true point guard. When the best and only answer at PG is Jeremy Lin, you KNOW a move for a point guard is a necessary move and not just for making any move.

The way Amar'e and Chandler talked yesterday, this season is on the verge of being irrelevant. A PG would probably not make us contenders, but right now I think everybody would settle on just being solid.

This isn't rock bottom only because this team still has potential to make it worse. But the truth is, the season has gone as terrible as it could.


The Knicks have never in Dolan's history tanked. It's not immediately profitable.

BTW, Read this thread for entertainment: http://ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=40277&page=1
Most predictions were that we'd go about 42-24.

You read how optimistic we all were at the start of the season, then you realised how much this team has crushed every last bit of hope we had- what an horrific season this is turning out to be. This is the story of how our season has gone:

Oh and for those, like me who were clinging to BD's imminent return:

Baron Davis probably will not make his Knicks debut for another week or two, according to people familiar with his rehabilitation. Davis, who is recovering from a herniated disk, is considered physically sound, but he is still working his way back into basketball shape after nine months of relative inactivity. Davis just began practicing last Monday, and he has been scrimmaging full court.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/sports/basketball/wheels-come-off-for-knicks-against-rockets.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

FFS! I agree with him taking his time, but in 2 weeks our season will be over if we keep losing at this kind of rate.

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4/3/2012  10:36 PM
The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Lin's injury has exposed the broken pieces we have left at PG that supposedly make a solid PG rotation.

With so few games remaining, the Bucks not losing against bad teams and our schedule, we can't expect to win consistently with breaking down Davis at starting PG, 5-minutes or less Bibby and Turnover Superstar Douglas.

Its late in the season, but you either waive Bibby and sign a healthy PG or concede the playoff position.

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4/3/2012  11:03 PM
Yes, Knicks need a PG that can score in the worst way, or there are going to be a lot nights that sting like tonight. Gotta have the vaseline ready, and not to tempt Marbury back here, either.
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4/3/2012  11:59 PM
Trade deadline has past and at the time the Knicks were fine at the point. I don't think the Knicks waive Bibby because he is a Woodson guy. The Knicks could sign a d-league guy and it might work out very well but I don't think they find a guy to fill Lin's role.
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4/4/2012  12:01 AM
CrushAlot wrote:Trade deadline has past and at the time the Knicks were fine at the point. I don't think the Knicks waive Bibby because he is a Woodson guy. The Knicks could sign a d-league guy and it might work out very well but I don't think they find a guy to fill Lin's role.

They either get a PG that has a bit of speed and maybe even a tiny brain or kaput!!

Trade for a PG or make this year irrelevant

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