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Carmelo calls Denver game 'must win', says teammates need to man up
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CashMoney
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1/21/2012  12:55 PM
nykshaknbake wrote:Only CHandler, Shump, Harrelson and Bibby have seen the court.

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JCrusher wrote:Well i agree that melo should look in the mirror. I mean if he wanted to be a knicks he could have waited without having dolan destroy this team. Now people see why Donnie didn't want to mkae this move and why he left

Melo didn't force the Knicks to do anything, Dolan did. If we waited longer we may have gotten him for less or maybe not at all. At the end of the day Melo is a premier player and one of the best in the game. He's playing like crap right now but so are others around the league. I for one don't like that 66 games are being crammed together. Things would be different with a full training camp and more than a damn practice per week.

It takes time to learn other players tendancies. Look at all the new players we have for god sakes! Bibby, Chandler, Jordan, Lin, Novak, Shumpert, Harrelson and Davis. 2 new players in the starting line up in Chandler & Shumpert along with STAT and Melo still trying to figure things out.

Chandler is our starting C and Shump is our starting PG. Just throw 2 new starters into the mix with no practice or camp and play at peak efficieny? Every player I named has seen court time this year, regardless of how much.

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1/21/2012  12:57 PM
CashMoney wrote:
JCrusher wrote:Well i agree that melo should look in the mirror. I mean if he wanted to be a knicks he could have waited without having dolan destroy this team. Now people see why Donnie didn't want to mkae this move and why he left

Melo didn't force the Knicks to do anything, Dolan did. If we waited longer we may have gotten him for less or maybe not at all. At the end of the day Melo is a premier player and one of the best in the game. He's playing like crap right now but so are others around the league. I for one don't like that 66 games are being crammed together. Things would be different with a full training camp and more than a damn practice per week.

It takes time to learn other players tendancies. Look at all the new players we have for god sakes! Bibby, Chandler, Jordan, Lin, Novak, Shumpert, Harrelson and Davis. 2 new players in the starting line up in Chandler & Shumpert along with STAT and Melo still trying to figure things out.

Well i did just say Dolan forced the trade. But melo could have said he just wanted to be a knick. jersey would have backed off and the nuggets would have been forced to either take less or let him walk
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1/21/2012  1:42 PM
Getting blown out 2night is very likely, Denver is one of the top teams this year. There 2nd unit might even destroy out 1st unit right now.
It is not fair to point the finger at any ONE player or coach.
We are simply missing talent, a starting PG, a starting SG, another athletic PF/C, a backup PG, a backup G/F, and production from out bench.
We can have a Starting caliber PG + SG when Baron returns but, its going to take awhile before he gets in shape.
Iman has to start, Fields doesn't have the quickness, speed on the defensive end to guard the position.
There are too many things that we have problems with but we still have to get whatever we can address.
SPEED/Quickness, ATM, has none, so it has to come from out PG and SG.


Baron Davis
Iman
Melo
Amare
Tyson Chandler

Lin
Green - Jr Smith* we are missing a scorer, cancer or not, at this point, we need a solid scorer to lead our 2nd unit*
Ariza *I think we have to package Fields with TD to New Orleans for Ariza, they save a lot of money and have many players that can play SG-SF*
Hunter think we should call him with Green back, with Amare playing horrible defense, I think we should even start Hunter, and have Amare lead our 2nd unit.
Jorts

JJ
Novak or Balkman

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1/21/2012  1:54 PM
We were fine last year even though when Billups was out.
Melo was hungry last year and right now he is in a huge funk.
He was on adrenaline last year and produced greatly. That is what a change of scenario through a trade can give a spark...
Amare took a big step back, not having efficient 3point shooters to spread the floor is hurting him as well.

We are missing Shawne Williams to spread the floor and to play PF.
TD isn't the same player as last year and not having Shawne and TD's production.
Tyson Chandler improved our defense a lot but is hurting our offense and spacing.
Carter, he wasn't a great scorer, but he was a great 3rd string PG, and played the best defense of PGs we had last year.
Turiaf was big for us as well, while he wasn't great on some nights.
When he played well, he was one our best defender, with rebounding, defense, and shot blocking.

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1/21/2012  3:18 PM
The words and actions of anything but a leader.
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1/21/2012  3:40 PM
RonRon

The Knicks are two years away from being a balanced team.

Baron Davis is not an answer because his rehabbed back is not built for this compressed schedule and will require extensive treatment and extra rest between games. We need two guards who can be trusted to initiate the offense and manage egos.

If Davis is able to play 20 minutes a night, consider it a blessing from the bandy-legged god of good hoops. Two guards needed.

Fields is showing signs of adapting and aggressing. Cool. Shumpert as sixth man.

Carmelo is Carmelo. He needs a stunt man. I miss Extra E.

Amar'e. See Carmelo. Josh Harrellson is learning, but raw. Need another quality big man not named Jared Jeffries.

Tyson Chandler. Need another quality big man, preferably with a polished post game.

The rest can take a hike.

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1/21/2012  4:36 PM
http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.

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1/21/2012  4:37 PM
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.

Plus plus, plus one. +1.

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1/21/2012  5:20 PM
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.


After watching the vid, I see nothing other than the fact that he was wearing a towel that reminds of anything remotely close to Marbury. Melo is/was a much more accomplished player and played on much more accomplished teams than Marbury did when he arrived.

Look on his face? He's upset, what do you expect? We just lost our 5th game in a row. Would you rather the stoic, stone face Amare along with the cliche'd responses? Since you never liked Melo, that tells me that your are nitpicking.

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1/21/2012  5:29 PM
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eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.


After watching the vid, I see nothing other than the fact that he was wearing a towel that reminds of anything remotely close to Marbury. Melo is/was a much more accomplished player and played on much more accomplished teams than Marbury did when he arrived.

Look on his face? He's upset, what do you expect? We just lost our 5th game in a row. Would you rather the stoic, stone face Amare along with the cliche'd responses? Since you never liked Melo, that tells me that your are nitpicking.

Is there anything Melo doesn't do right in your mind lol
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1/21/2012  5:37 PM
Uptown wrote:Look on his face? He's upset, what do you expect? We just lost our 5th game in a row. Would you rather the stoic, stone face Amare along with the cliche'd responses? Since you never liked Melo, that tells me that your are nitpicking.

he doesn't look upset. he looks amused.

and yes, i rather Amare give me every cliche in the book than Melo with a smirk on his face saying he can't put a finger on what's wrong when it's clear he doesn't care to score within the flow of the offense.

he's shaping up to be the SF version of Marbury. the good news is that Marbury was traded twice before anyone knew who he was. so we might have hope.

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1/21/2012  6:32 PM
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.

Plus plus, plus one. +1.

And I will top that with +1

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1/21/2012  6:57 PM
raven wrote:
MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.

Plus plus, plus one. +1.

And I will top that with +1

I guess I missed it. I wasn't a fan of the trade, and I am not a big Melo fan but I didn't see anything in that interview that made me angry with him or his attitude. The only time I saw him smile was when he talked about getting treatment until almost midnight and not liking getting punked on the court.
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1/21/2012  6:57 PM
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.


It is too early to call him that. Way too early. I am surprised you are blaming Melo for the NYK losing streak.
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1/21/2012  7:18 PM
I don't consider it a must win. The only thing they must do is play hard from start to finish. I wouldn't consider it a moral victory if they fought hard and lost but a necessary step towards turning things around.
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1/21/2012  7:25 PM
Man i'm watching al the former knicks on MSG and it makes me depressed. I knew the second it was announced that this would happen. Plus Wilson Chandler is gonna come back which will help them even more. Why couldn't Dolan just let Donnie do his damn job
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1/21/2012  11:42 PM
Silverfuel wrote:
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.


It is too early to call him that. Way too early. I am surprised you are blaming Melo for the NYK losing streak.

Especially when we all know the real problem is the voodoo curse.

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1/22/2012  12:50 AM
Silverfuel wrote:
eViL wrote:http://www.msg.com/carmelo-postgame-loss-to-bucks-120-1.81418

the look on his face during this interview has me ready to turn against him. i feel like it's a repeat of Marbury. a player i didn't like gets traded to the Knicks. i give him the benefit of the doubt, but he show me that he is exactly who i thought he was. even with my stance that this team needs more time, i'm finding it hard to root for this guy.


It is too early to call him that. Way too early. I am surprised you are blaming Melo for the NYK losing streak.

i'm sorry, but this guy can only score when the offense grinds to a halt and moves over and lets him dominate. his idea of facilitating an offense is going for his and dishing it off (MAYBE) if he needs a bail out. his game is uninspiring. the decisions he makes just leave me scratching my head. and i'm puzzled that anyone is saying otherwise.

i've been supportive of the team and i haven't given up yet, but i cannot fathom a situation with the Knicks being successful until Melo commits to playing team offense. i am not one of those people who thinks the coach is ****ing up. it's so clearly Melo. i would guess that almost all of his baskets come unassisted. that's not good. takes the rhythm right out of the team.

the crowd was screaming at him to "MOVE THE BALL!!" the reason Amare is not scoring is because he willingly moves the ball early in a possession only for it to stick with melo as soon as he gets it. you can hear the collective groans of the crowd every time it happens. it's not a called play. the dude is just trying to hard to be the man.

i was watching on a feed that somehow managed to capture some of Breen and Clyde talking off air and both guys were tearing into Melo's style of play. it's embarrassing to see this guy force as hard as he's forcing. at this point, i'll give him the benefit of the doubt. he's not a bad guy. he's just trying to do too much. he's pressing.

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1/22/2012  1:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/22/2012  1:11 AM
eViL wrote: i am not one of those people who thinks the coach is ****ing up. it's so clearly Melo. i would guess that almost all of his baskets come unassisted. that's not good. takes the rhythm right out of the team.

I agree & disagree. Melo should've looked to pass. The iso worked until they started triple/quadruple teaming him knowing that the ball was going up. You can't do the same thing over and over. They made it so easy on Denver. When the D collapsed Melo could've passed it to a wide open Fields. Hit or miss at least we would've got a shot attempt and no one would complain that Melo should take every shot down the stretch.

Thats where the coaching needs to step up and actually draw plays and earn his money.

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1/22/2012  7:37 AM
At least he backed up his statement on the court
Carmelo calls Denver game 'must win', says teammates need to man up

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