colombian0725 wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:Wait so when Melo is injured Amare only scores 20 points and like 8 rebounds IN TWO games??? Our team goes down by 25 both games? Or when it's the fourth quarter and Melo is on the bench and Amare is out there we start to fall behind and can't score than everyone is begging for Melo to come back in. Or when we are down by 5 with 2 mins left who is the only one on the team that plays bully ball? Melo or Amare?

Heroin is one hell of a drug and the team was suffering what they call the "dope sickness".

Give it 10 games without Melo and see how Amar'e rolls.

LOL 10 games without MELO and we would be lucky to win one game... If Amare was putting up 20/10 than I might say we might have a chance. But Amare with Melo out doesn't even look like the best player on our team... 14/6 one game and 6/2 another??? Are you kidding me?

The guy is affected. His brain is in turmoil, and this is because of the Melo intrusion.

No, I'm not kidding you, Amar'e would need some extended period of healing before he would regain his footing, before he would be clean and ready to ball like he used to.

The guy is human. They're all humans.

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:All I know is that I don't feel secure with anybody but Melo handling the ball, which is a problem. STAT will dribble on his foot, TD will do whatever, Field's has a feel of negative urgency, Shump is triggerhappy, Billy can shoot or charge, Bibby couldn't cover Rick Brunson, Lin is practicing. I don't think it's Melo's ill nasty numbers that are hurting chemistry, it's the general guard play.

But it sure is hard to root for this team right now.

So this is like the famous drug, heroin. You start doing the dope and you no longer feel secure making your music without it.

It's funny how I trusted these same guys before the heroin came to my life.

So Melo is like heroin now? The only guy, along with Tyson I suppose, to play up to expectations, if not better. The odd man out is STAT, and Melo isn't the one hurting his positioning, that's Tyson. When all is said and done, STAT has played horrendous this season. At least Melo tries on defense.

When we get a past first PG, I expect us to play coherently. Not when our PG's best qualities are shooting.

I desperately want STAT to succeed. When he starts doing so, Melo will pass the ball. This, I am 70% sure of.

I am trying to understand why an 8+ year veteran and an established All-Star baller would shrivel like a cold-water penis, out of the blue!

The numbers Four and Three are neighbors, and I can hardly fault an otherwise dope-nasty baller for his inability to make nice with such a big intruder in his hood.

You're not putting Amar'e into the mix with a guard, you're putting him into the mix with a fellow forward. I can't tell you he is garbage simply because he has so far been unable to coexist with a guy that, to an extent, he overlaps with.

If anything it is on the greater talent, this is Melo, to make it work. The impetus is on Carmelo to make this thing work, it's not on Amar'e.

I am trying to understand the shriveling penis too. But why should a 8+ year veteran allstar have so much trouble playing with Melo? Can't see why Melo is at fault here. Melo is assisting more too.

Because, which player out of the two is being asked to change his game?

Melo isn't being asked to change his game, Amar'e is the one being asked (or forced) to adjust.

This is the answer.

It's just that their talents, the way they ball, Melo is the dominant talent, so Amar'e is playing the role of the guy who is adjusting.

It's a natural hierarchy.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:All I know is that I don't feel secure with anybody but Melo handling the ball, which is a problem. STAT will dribble on his foot, TD will do whatever, Field's has a feel of negative urgency, Shump is triggerhappy, Billy can shoot or charge, Bibby couldn't cover Rick Brunson, Lin is practicing. I don't think it's Melo's ill nasty numbers that are hurting chemistry, it's the general guard play.

But it sure is hard to root for this team right now.

So this is like the famous drug, heroin. You start doing the dope and you no longer feel secure making your music without it.

It's funny how I trusted these same guys before the heroin came to my life.

So Melo is like heroin now? The only guy, along with Tyson I suppose, to play up to expectations, if not better. The odd man out is STAT, and Melo isn't the one hurting his positioning, that's Tyson. When all is said and done, STAT has played horrendous this season. At least Melo tries on defense.

When we get a past first PG, I expect us to play coherently. Not when our PG's best qualities are shooting.

I desperately want STAT to succeed. When he starts doing so, Melo will pass the ball. This, I am 70% sure of.

I am trying to understand why an 8+ year veteran and an established All-Star baller would shrivel like a cold-water penis, out of the blue!

The numbers Four and Three are neighbors, and I can hardly fault an otherwise dope-nasty baller for his inability to make nice with such a big intruder in his hood.

You're not putting Amar'e into the mix with a guard, you're putting him into the mix with a fellow forward. I can't tell you he is garbage simply because he has so far been unable to coexist with a guy that, to an extent, he overlaps with.

If anything it is on the greater talent, this is Melo, to make it work. The impetus is on Carmelo to make this thing work, it's not on Amar'e.

I am trying to understand the shriveling penis too. But why should a 8+ year veteran allstar have so much trouble playing with Melo? Can't see why Melo is at fault here. Melo is assisting more too.

Because, which player out of the two is being asked to change his game?

Melo isn't being asked to change his game, Amar'e is the one being asked (or forced) to adjust.

This is the answer.

Melo is being asked to be more of a point forward. Amare himself, demanded to not play the 5 anymore - which used to be his offensive advantage. It's just too sad that he's unwilling to commit in any other aspect of the game. Or doesn't know how to.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:And this isn't to say that one or the other is literally being asked to adjust.

It's just that their talents, the way they ball, Melo is the dominant talent, so Amar'e is playing the role of the guy who is adjusting.

It's a natural hierarchy.

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:All I know is that I don't feel secure with anybody but Melo handling the ball, which is a problem. STAT will dribble on his foot, TD will do whatever, Field's has a feel of negative urgency, Shump is triggerhappy, Billy can shoot or charge, Bibby couldn't cover Rick Brunson, Lin is practicing. I don't think it's Melo's ill nasty numbers that are hurting chemistry, it's the general guard play.

But it sure is hard to root for this team right now.

So this is like the famous drug, heroin. You start doing the dope and you no longer feel secure making your music without it.

It's funny how I trusted these same guys before the heroin came to my life.

So Melo is like heroin now? The only guy, along with Tyson I suppose, to play up to expectations, if not better. The odd man out is STAT, and Melo isn't the one hurting his positioning, that's Tyson. When all is said and done, STAT has played horrendous this season. At least Melo tries on defense.

When we get a past first PG, I expect us to play coherently. Not when our PG's best qualities are shooting.

I desperately want STAT to succeed. When he starts doing so, Melo will pass the ball. This, I am 70% sure of.

I am trying to understand why an 8+ year veteran and an established All-Star baller would shrivel like a cold-water penis, out of the blue!

The numbers Four and Three are neighbors, and I can hardly fault an otherwise dope-nasty baller for his inability to make nice with such a big intruder in his hood.

You're not putting Amar'e into the mix with a guard, you're putting him into the mix with a fellow forward. I can't tell you he is garbage simply because he has so far been unable to coexist with a guy that, to an extent, he overlaps with.

If anything it is on the greater talent, this is Melo, to make it work. The impetus is on Carmelo to make this thing work, it's not on Amar'e.

I am trying to understand the shriveling penis too. But why should a 8+ year veteran allstar have so much trouble playing with Melo? Can't see why Melo is at fault here. Melo is assisting more too.

Because, which player out of the two is being asked to change his game?

Melo isn't being asked to change his game, Amar'e is the one being asked (or forced) to adjust.

This is the answer.

Melo is being asked to be more of a point forward. Amare himself, demanded to not play the 5 anymore - which used to be his offensive advantage. It's just too sad that he's unwilling to commit in any other aspect of the game. Or doesn't know how to.

Melo being asked to be a "point-forward" was a political move, it was a superficial attempt to nudge Melo towards a more team-oriented mindset. It has had no bearing in reality thus far.

colombian0725 wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:And this isn't to say that one or the other is literally being asked to adjust.

It's just that their talents, the way they ball, Melo is the dominant talent, so Amar'e is playing the role of the guy who is adjusting.

It's a natural hierarchy.

What role? he is still trying to take his man off the dribble. Still shooting his 15-18 foot jump shoots. Not like he was a post up player that all of a sudden was asked to shoot jump shoots and take his man off the dribble. Was asked to play piss poor defense.

The role that his most inner being defines for him. We can't define it. It's what he feels comfortable with. This has been taken away from him.

A guy can't just revert back to his natural state after one or two games. He needs an extended period to settle on his baseline.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

martin wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:Wait so when Melo is injured Amare only scores 20 points and like 8 rebounds IN TWO games??? Our team goes down by 25 both games? Or when it's the fourth quarter and Melo is on the bench and Amare is out there we start to fall behind and can't score than everyone is begging for Melo to come back in. Or when we are down by 5 with 2 mins left who is the only one on the team that plays bully ball? Melo or Amare?

Heroin is one hell of a drug and the team was suffering what they call the "dope sickness".

Give it 10 games without Melo and see how Amar'e rolls.

Amare needs a PG more than anyone on the team, so why would 10 games without Melo amount to anything? Amare had plenty of games without Melo last year and he did fine.

It's true, Amar'e needs a PG more than anyone, but this is in the current context.

If things are given time to settle and Melo is out for an extended period, for example, my brain is 100% confident that Amar'e would regain some of his swag and find a comfortable zone to work in.

Plus, if you take Melo out for an extended period, the other guys would settle to their more natural roles.

All this would help Amar'e find his comfort zone in the offense.

But Marblob, we would be back to square 2010-11 pre melo. Minus everyone.

Which is the problem of this situation.

All I'm saying is, we can't blast Amar'e because the situation is out of his hands.

The guy isn't a garbage baller out of nowhere. He's still Amar'e.

Melo needs to make it happen if he will ever live up to his Very Special Max Contract Superstar billing.

Melo contributes more to this team than Amare at this point. Melo has set up his teammates more than Amare. Melo has made more play's on defense than Amare. Amare prefers to side step layups/dunks that he should contest. Melo has increased his steal's per game and has a career high. I've seen more effort on defense from Melo than Amare has shown this season.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

martin wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:Wait so when Melo is injured Amare only scores 20 points and like 8 rebounds IN TWO games??? Our team goes down by 25 both games? Or when it's the fourth quarter and Melo is on the bench and Amare is out there we start to fall behind and can't score than everyone is begging for Melo to come back in. Or when we are down by 5 with 2 mins left who is the only one on the team that plays bully ball? Melo or Amare?

Heroin is one hell of a drug and the team was suffering what they call the "dope sickness".

Give it 10 games without Melo and see how Amar'e rolls.

Amare needs a PG more than anyone on the team, so why would 10 games without Melo amount to anything? Amare had plenty of games without Melo last year and he did fine.

It's true, Amar'e needs a PG more than anyone, but this is in the current context.

If things are given time to settle and Melo is out for an extended period, for example, my brain is 100% confident that Amar'e would regain some of his swag and find a comfortable zone to work in.

Plus, if you take Melo out for an extended period, the other guys would settle to their more natural roles.

All this would help Amar'e find his comfort zone in the offense.

But Marblob, we would be back to square 2010-11 pre melo. Minus everyone.

Which is the problem of this situation.

All I'm saying is, we can't blast Amar'e because the situation is out of his hands.

The guy isn't a garbage baller out of nowhere. He's still Amar'e.

Melo needs to make it happen if he will ever live up to his Very Special Max Contract Superstar billing.

Amare has a very special Max Contract and he plays no defense and does not rebound the ball. He has shown zero effort on defense. His block total is down. He gives wide open lay ups and dunks!!!! What do you have to say about his lack of D with his very special Max contract?

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

skeng wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

martin wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

colombian0725 wrote:Wait so when Melo is injured Amare only scores 20 points and like 8 rebounds IN TWO games??? Our team goes down by 25 both games? Or when it's the fourth quarter and Melo is on the bench and Amare is out there we start to fall behind and can't score than everyone is begging for Melo to come back in. Or when we are down by 5 with 2 mins left who is the only one on the team that plays bully ball? Melo or Amare?

Heroin is one hell of a drug and the team was suffering what they call the "dope sickness".

Give it 10 games without Melo and see how Amar'e rolls.

Amare needs a PG more than anyone on the team, so why would 10 games without Melo amount to anything? Amare had plenty of games without Melo last year and he did fine.

It's true, Amar'e needs a PG more than anyone, but this is in the current context.

If things are given time to settle and Melo is out for an extended period, for example, my brain is 100% confident that Amar'e would regain some of his swag and find a comfortable zone to work in.

Plus, if you take Melo out for an extended period, the other guys would settle to their more natural roles.

All this would help Amar'e find his comfort zone in the offense.

But Marblob, we would be back to square 2010-11 pre melo. Minus everyone.

Which is the problem of this situation.

All I'm saying is, we can't blast Amar'e because the situation is out of his hands.

The guy isn't a garbage baller out of nowhere. He's still Amar'e.

Melo needs to make it happen if he will ever live up to his Very Special Max Contract Superstar billing.

It is out of his hands. It's out of everyone's hands. Which is why we need better rotation hands, preferably smaller hands playing the 1-2

A proper Floor General fixes many things. The problem is that, if BDiddy does not work out, where will our money come from to buy one?