Love could post up with Chandler patrolling the paint for any possible put backs. His D still needs improvement but its not like we would be giving up defense if Stat were traded. Rubio and Stat on the same squad might interest Khan.

I'd love to see Howard join the Knicks but I get the feeling that they would ask more than the Knicks can afford to give up for a title run in the next few years.

GustavBahler wrote:If the Knicks were exploring trade options involving Amare, I hope Kevin Love is on the list of potential players. A front court of Chandler and Love would dominate the paint against most teams. Love has the inside game that Stat doesn't and can shoot the three. Melo/Love would be a dangerous inside/outside combination.

Love could post up with Chandler patrolling the paint for any possible put backs. His D still needs improvement but its not like we would be giving up defense if Stat were traded. Rubio and Stat on the same squad might interest Khan.

I'd love to see Howard join the Knicks but I get the feeling that they would ask more than the Knicks can afford to give up for a title run in the next few years.

Orlando will want Stoudemire, Chandler, Shumpert, and Douglas and expect us to take back Turk, Duhon, and whatever else they can throw this way. It wouldn't be worth it at that price.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

CashMoney wrote:

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:

CashMoney wrote:Howard is overrated and I personally hopes he rots in Orlando this year goes out West next year. We don't need him!

This is Shaq-Howard comparison up to 8th season in league. Shaq has him on points per game, but Howard's first two years were low scoring.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=onealsh01&y1=2000&p2=howardw01&y2=2012#per_game::none

Shaq was a far superior player. Who in the hell does Dwight Howard play against at C? No one, he is the only true big man in the game right now. With this being the case the guy should be dropping 30 a game.

Howard feels filthy down there, his mind is not right. He comes here, got the lights, got the good smells, he will be motivated and start tearing new ones in the league.

14 boards a game and 20 points? Swatting shots like he's Manute Bol? You take that. Especially because you don't know what's going on with Amar'e and his knees, his eyeballs. Plus Hedo is a perfect Four for the Knicks. He's got laser vision.

CashMoney wrote:STAT and Chandler for Howard is not too much??? This team is better with STAT and Chandler then it would be with Howard.

No way. Howard clogs it up like Amar'e can't even dream of. In Amar'e's wildest dreams and nightmares, he cannot clog it like D-Howard.

Compared to Howard, Amar'e is a perimeter player.

Howard is a Center and STAT is a PF.

Howard doesn't want the lights. He can't handle being the man in Orlando he's going to be comfortable being the man in NYC? Heck, when the Magic lost in the finals to the Lakers Howard wasn't the guy carrying the team. The knock on STAT is that he can't play D. Well the knock on Howard is that all he plays is D.

I'm more than happy with Chandler clogging the middle.

Amare Chandler 33pts 17.5rbs 2.4blks
Dwight Howard 18.6pts 14.6rbs 2.8blocks

Keep these numbers in mind
Stat 7 games played (122 shots) (52fts)
Dwight 9 games played (110 shots) (82fts)

Boris Diaw with Amare guarding him (19pts, 10rbs 7ass - 27pts 6asst)
Boris Diaw in all other games (2pts, 10pts, 5pts, 0pts)

Again you build a team the right way. You do it with defense and mismatches. Tyson Chandler is an average big man, with average numbers and limited offensive skill. He's not effective when he has to play help defense.

And before someone tells me that the numbers above are greater so are the number of chandler, gallo, felton, moz, ar, first round picks and cash for a guy that is supposed to be elite. So elite that this team has lost to the warriors with curry, the lakers without bynum, blown out by the bobcats, embarrassed by the raptors, needs a 3 pointer with time running down vs the worst team in the league and barely beats the bobcats at home in a rematch. The Knicks were gifted a schedule. If you have two superstars you should be a lot better than 5-4 especially if you just signed an elite big man.

MS wrote:Dwight > Amare and Chandler
Let's go over this for the slow people.

Amare Chandler 33pts 17.5rbs 2.4blks
Dwight Howard 18.6pts 14.6rbs 2.8blocks

Keep these numbers in mind
Stat 7 games played (122 shots) (52fts)
Dwight 9 games played (110 shots) (82fts)

Boris Diaw with Amare guarding him (19pts, 10rbs 7ass - 27pts 6asst)
Boris Diaw in all other games (2pts, 10pts, 5pts, 0pts)

Again you build a team the right way. You do it with defense and mismatches. Tyson Chandler is an average big man, with average numbers and limited offensive skill. He's not effective when he has to play help defense.

And before someone tells me that the numbers above are greater so are the number of chandler, gallo, felton, moz, ar, first round picks and cash for a guy that is supposed to be elite. So elite that this team has lost to the warriors with curry, the lakers without bynum, blown out by the bobcats, embarrassed by the raptors, needs a 3 pointer with time running down vs the worst team in the league and barely beats the bobcats at home in a rematch. The Knicks were gifted a schedule. If you have two superstars you should be a lot better than 5-4 especially if you just signed an elite big man.

Holy crap!!!! What part of a 2 game pre season, limited to no practice and a crazy schedule is not understood? We finally have a team that is capable for contedning for a championship and most here want to blow up the damn team! 5-4 is not bad when considering we don't have our starting PG, didn't have our super rookie for 3 games and didn't have STAT for 2 games.

I'm telling you people have selective memories.

CashMoney wrote:

MS wrote:Dwight > Amare and Chandler
Let's go over this for the slow people.

Amare Chandler 33pts 17.5rbs 2.4blks
Dwight Howard 18.6pts 14.6rbs 2.8blocks

Keep these numbers in mind
Stat 7 games played (122 shots) (52fts)
Dwight 9 games played (110 shots) (82fts)

Boris Diaw with Amare guarding him (19pts, 10rbs 7ass - 27pts 6asst)
Boris Diaw in all other games (2pts, 10pts, 5pts, 0pts)

Again you build a team the right way. You do it with defense and mismatches. Tyson Chandler is an average big man, with average numbers and limited offensive skill. He's not effective when he has to play help defense.

And before someone tells me that the numbers above are greater so are the number of chandler, gallo, felton, moz, ar, first round picks and cash for a guy that is supposed to be elite. So elite that this team has lost to the warriors with curry, the lakers without bynum, blown out by the bobcats, embarrassed by the raptors, needs a 3 pointer with time running down vs the worst team in the league and barely beats the bobcats at home in a rematch. The Knicks were gifted a schedule. If you have two superstars you should be a lot better than 5-4 especially if you just signed an elite big man.

Holy crap!!!! What part of a 2 game pre season, limited to no practice and a crazy schedule is not understood? We finally have a team that is capable for contedning for a championship and most here want to blow up the damn team! 5-4 is not bad when considering we don't have our starting PG, didn't have our super rookie for 3 games and didn't have STAT for 2 games.

I'm telling you people have selective memories.

This is New York, you've gotta make it rain.

Same boat, the league is floating in. Howard also had two preseason games, he has garbage around him down there in Orlando, and they're 6-3 to our 5-4; roughly the same strength of schedule.

So this guy is making it happen with less around him.

MS brings strong points, but I take it one notch further: Dwight >> Amar'e-Tyson

Ryan Anderson is making it rain because of Dwight.

Which player around Howard compares to Melo?

Melo would make it rain. I'm talking 30 points per. Hedo is laser point and we can squeeze some time out of him. These guys, they're Finals-hardened. Dwight got smoked 4-1 by a Lakers team that was peaking. Lesson learned.

holfresh wrote:Screw DHoward the immature shet...STAT revived this franchise and for that I'll be loyal...STAT and Chandler are mature dudes...We all see how immature shets do in NY...We can win without DHoward and dumping down the ball to make him happy...Also with Turk's contact, it's like we have a big three with only two players for the next three years at least..Can't really add pieces...No thanks...We are a PG away from scaring the heck out of Miami...Stay the course...

Melo and Dwight complement each other, unlike Amar'e and Melo. This means that you get more bang for the buck from both Dwight and Melo.

You're suffocating both Melo and Amar'e right now with this combination; with Dwight-Melo, you're letting them breathe.

There is no loyalty here. We're not the Spurs or Mavericks; ask Little Ray Felton.

I seem to remember Shaq getting his ass handed to him 4-0 in his first NBA Finals vs. Houston. Ewing shooting 38% from the field in the NBA finals, and Robinson getting a gift in Tim Duncan. And none of those centers came straight from High School mind you.