CrushAlot wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

Awesome. The other video of the offensive guru that needs to be made is the, "Do what you do" coming out of time out.

lol i saw the post game interview

Nalod wrote:Problem: Depth.

4 back up: Jorts. Freaking Jorts!

Guy is not terrible, and its good MDA is playing a rookie, but dude took 4 shots tonite.

4.

0-4.

All of them 3's.

Melo is the best player on a injury depleted team.

some of you are indignant about hoisting up 3's?

Get indignant about the starphuck! This is what most of you wanted. This is what happens when injuries happen.

Melo is doing his impersonation of Bernard.

Its a work in progress. Keep watching and keep the faith.

In Jorts we trust!

Adding stars to the roster does not = hoisting 3's. Thats on the coach and his philosophy. The Heat starphucked as you like to call it and they do not stand around at the three point line.

MarburyAnd1Crossover wrote:Mike D'Antoni advocates taking the shot if you have it. But he can't control the players on the court. It's not his preference to shoot so many threes, but this is a sporadic consequence of the philosophy. As the guys adjust and become more comfortable, nights like these will become rarer.

This is the problem. MDA would have guys shoot their way out of a slump by continuing to jack 3s, open obviously preferable.

But a traditional coach (e.g., anyone not MDA) would have you drive to the hoop and either try for a lay up or get fouled.

There were several threes last night (actually, bricks) that were wide open, good looks. But they were taken with a clear path to the basket left un-attacked.

mrKnickShot wrote:Billy walker passed up a 3 and drove to the hoop (albeit made a dumb play after) and you can see MDA seething and yelling shoot the fu**in ball! Was pretty funny

Yep, exactly. We apparently would have won if only we took 40 3's !!!

eViL wrote:

Nalod wrote:Problem: Depth.

4 back up: Jorts. Freaking Jorts!

Guy is not terrible, and its good MDA is playing a rookie, but dude took 4 shots tonite.

4.

0-4.

All of them 3's.

Melo is the best player on a injury depleted team.

some of you are indignant about hoisting up 3's?

Get indignant about the starphuck! This is what most of you wanted. This is what happens when injuries happen.

Melo is doing his impersonation of Bernard.

Its a work in progress. Keep watching and keep the faith.

In Jorts we trust!

there was a certain comfort in the old squad. it was easy to follow knowing that players still needed to reach their potential. losses weren't so disappointing because it was a "learning" experience. now, the expectations are high and the team "is what it is." i'm surprised that no one is pointing to miami's start last season as an example that these things take time.

it's easy to take one star and put him in the center of a young supporting class. it's way more difficult to blend two superlative players together and make them greater than the sum of their parts. often, both players suffer and take a step back. does it have to stay that way? no.

neither melo nor amare ever played an NBA season with someone as skilled as the other. and for them to blend, it's going to take way more than 7 games. last season doesn't even count. this team has had a short training camp, two preseason games, and five regular season games. why can't the youth lovers embrace the potential of our star duo? sure, it's not showing itself now, but i think the jury is still out. there is no definitive evidence that they cannot make it work.

That is all true but why do we need to jack up so many 3's? is that part of the learning experience? That seems lile a philosophy issue to me.

mrKnickShot wrote:

eViL wrote:

Nalod wrote:Problem: Depth.

4 back up: Jorts. Freaking Jorts!

Guy is not terrible, and its good MDA is playing a rookie, but dude took 4 shots tonite.

4.

0-4.

All of them 3's.

Melo is the best player on a injury depleted team.

some of you are indignant about hoisting up 3's?

Get indignant about the starphuck! This is what most of you wanted. This is what happens when injuries happen.

Melo is doing his impersonation of Bernard.

Its a work in progress. Keep watching and keep the faith.

In Jorts we trust!

there was a certain comfort in the old squad. it was easy to follow knowing that players still needed to reach their potential. losses weren't so disappointing because it was a "learning" experience. now, the expectations are high and the team "is what it is." i'm surprised that no one is pointing to miami's start last season as an example that these things take time.

it's easy to take one star and put him in the center of a young supporting class. it's way more difficult to blend two superlative players together and make them greater than the sum of their parts. often, both players suffer and take a step back. does it have to stay that way? no.

neither melo nor amare ever played an NBA season with someone as skilled as the other. and for them to blend, it's going to take way more than 7 games. last season doesn't even count. this team has had a short training camp, two preseason games, and five regular season games. why can't the youth lovers embrace the potential of our star duo? sure, it's not showing itself now, but i think the jury is still out. there is no definitive evidence that they cannot make it work.

That is all true but why do we need to jack up so many 3's? is that part of the learning experience? That seems lile a philosophy issue to me.

yeah, i don't love the 3's. i think it's a product of the team struggling to reconcile the need to take good shots while also adhering D'Antoni's "if you're open, shoot it" philosophy. seems like when you give your players a lot of discretion, as D'Antoni appears to do, that it might take longer to "install the system" because guys are not just learning the plays and being told what to do, but rather, they are developing their judgment within the system. i could see it failing and i could see it working. i'm going to reserve judgement until at least halfway through the season.

nixluva wrote:Why is that everyone just assumes that the idea is to just hoist 3's? The fact that the players decided to take bad 3's doesn't mean that is the offense. Sometimes I wonder if any of you guys have ever watched any of the games that the Suns used to play or any of the games this team has played when they were truly playing the system!!! The offense isn't to take a million 3's just cuz you can. The shots we hit tended to be the GOOD 3's, meaning the ball went inside 1st and when that was overplayed by the defense then the ball went back out and they hit the shot.

BAD 3's are not what this offense is about. This offense was always about the PnR and good early offense off pushing the ball. For that you have to have at least a decent PG like Felton was. He's never been a great PG, but he was just good enough to actually run the offense. That's what we don't have now. You can't underestimate the impact of having BAD PG play verses even decent levels of PG play like Calderon gave the Raptors. He's not that good, but he was steady and did just enough to help his team. So far TD has actually HURT the team more than he's helped and that's not gonna work. TD has to play well for this team to get into it's rhythm.

If you doubt it then tell me who is gonna drive the ball on this team rather than take a bad shot? who has the kind of game where they can dribble drive and pull up for the midrange? Only guy left is Melo and the D is gonna key on him. that leaves almost no one that is healthy with that kind of talent. The 2 key players we need are Shump and B Diddy. Both are capable of breaking down the D and getting into the teeth of the D. More important we need B Diddy's decision making with the ball. Until then TD has to play smarter more consistently and setup his teammates.

There is a saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink". As noted by nixluva, PnR is what what is built by system but if you don't have a PG that can run it consistantly then nobody is going to follow it. Even Duhon was able to run this from time to time than TD.

Carmelo Anthony had no problem going to the whole and getting shots in close near the rim. The rest chose not too. Where I blame the coaching staff is not getting the guys off teh line but instead sticking with the offense and thinking the guys will figure it out. It's not the system it's the execution.