scoshin wrote:JCrusher wrote:martin wrote:JrZyHuStLa wrote:martin wrote:eViL wrote:is there something about the New York spotlight that makes players not want to move the ball? feels like forever since we've seen a free flowing, pass the ball offense. seems other teams, even with multiple stars, have no issues sharing. what gives?
guard play. That's where it starts. And then the pieces around that have to understand where to be.
We have Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony, and you think it starts with guard play? With all due respect Martin, how many more excuses will we have?
Happy new year to you btw.
Well, do you think we have adequate PG and SG capabilities with TD and Fields? Or do you think that the effectiveness of Melo and Amare have been partially due to TD's awful PG play?
Why do people keep asking about how many excuses will we have instead of watching what is happening on the court and trying to draw some conclusions?
Whenever I see the "how many excuses" line come out I tend to view that as a short-sighted way of pouting about not getting instant-win gratification.
a good pg does help a lot but melo and amare have been making some real dumb decisions. they both are chucking three pointers instead of drving to the basketball i mean thats why chandler is there.
Melo's actually driving to the basket a lot. Not sure what you've been watching. Amar'e has been taking more 3's than he normally does, but those have usually been in the flow of the offense, ie. in a Shawne Williams role where Amar'e is camped out at 3 and Tyson is the roll man.
The problem really is that we have zero dribble penetration from our guards, and no one capable of running the PnR. Because of that, we can't force the defense to collapse on dribble penetration, and we usually just end up doing nothing but passing the rock for 15 seconds, then giving the ball to Amar'e or Melo for an iso to bail us out. It's the ugliest offense I've seen since MDA's been here, and I've never been a fan of his from the getgo. Other systems usually make do without a PnR guard by running the triangle, or running post-up plays, or offensive sets that involve off-the-ball screens and curl plays to free up a sharpshooter like Rip Hamilton or Reggie Miller, etc. We're not doing any of those alternatives though and that part falls on the coach.
Also, whether it's cause Amar'e lifted weights over the lockout and gained more muscle, or he practiced too many 3's for D'Antoni's offense, he really needs to get his midrange elbow jumper again. Without that, his game is going to be broke. He was never a good driver to begin with and I cringe any time he puts the ball on the floor in iso situations.
Look man im not gonna live in a fantasy world lol. I said that we have no pg and that does make a difference however our two stars should be doing more on both sides and they are not. I mean im as big a fan as you are and i root for these guys but its ok to be critical if they aren't doing great. it doesn't make you a bad fan lol