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Dalembert signs with HOU for 2 years 13.7 Million (cheap) and it begs the question....
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Nalod
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12/23/2011  1:09 PM
Dalembart only has one year guarantee, he can be bought out for 2mil. He basically has a one year deal for 9 mil.

NOt bad work if you can get it.

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12/23/2011  3:30 PM
RonRon wrote:Stats are very misleading, if you look by the numbers, it would look as if production vs the money between Chandler/Dalembert is a huge favor to Dalembert.
Dalembert is a combination of length, athletic ability, and 6'11.
He isn't a defensive leader, hard worker, defensive specialist, and communicator that Chandler is.
Once his athleticism, age, and injuries add up, no one has an idea where Dalembert will be in the league.
His game is all made up of his physical skills and he has limited moves, BB IQ, and questionable work ethic.

Players like Keon Clark and Stromile Swift are 2 players that Dalembert could follow that undesirable foot steps of.
This 1 to 2 year team option is very smart, it ensures Houston, that if Dalembert falls of his game with his athleticism or stops working, they could cut him next year with a
little over 1m buyout. It reminds players and Dalembert, that contracts aren't given out and must be earned. It's a message that is clear, that the NBA has had problems
with cutting bad contracts, while hindering their ability to improve with the cap situation. Unlike the NFL, players are harder to cut and have guaranteed money that some
players take advantage for.

Chandler, although cost a lot more, he has the will, work ethic, and desire to play defense and win another championship.
In my opinion, there is simply no comparison between the 2. He came to New York because he knew they have been a poor defensive team.
He wants to prove to the league and himself, the importance of his defensive abilities, being our Bill Russel in New York.
With all the TV attention, media, analyst, and fans that questions NY's defense.
We lack a center that brings defense, rebounding, shot blocking, and toughness for a decade.

Sean Williams is a player that is similar and younger, to Dalembert, if you want to talk about cost efficiency.
The league is preventing the Jerome James/Eddy Curry like players, looking to seek a good contract and stop working for it.
Knowing their contracts will be payed, as long as they sit on their bench, and attend practice/games.
NBA isn't a charity or high school, no one is baby sitting a pro.
The way the league is offering many 1year/2year deals to Kris Humphries. Dalembert, West, Brown is a sign that the owners/Gm's got together, uniting to stop a problem that certain players took advantage off. The message is clear, EARN AND HONOR YOUR CONTRACTS, a vow by GM's that payed in advance for the potential, in which was taken advantage for.

I agree, if a Center like Dalembert is signed for us, we need to find a way to get Cp3 or Deron, to make up for it.
There is no comparison between Dalembert and Chandler, or CP3/Deron vs Baron Davis and any PGs that are attainable.
I prefer Cp3, even though there is a history of injuries, the way he uses his combination of speed, quickness, BB IQ, passing, screens, and his TO/Assist ratio is very unique.
For the amount of time he has the ball in his hands, he controls the temmpo, without many turnovers.
It's quite amazing what he does, unfortunately, there wasn't a realistic way in which we can add him to the Knick's and add a legit center/supporting cast.
Deandre Jordan is a great athletic center in which will excel with Cp3. The only realistic way we could have attained Cp3 is if we never pulled the Melo trade.
We can't look in the past, we have a solid team, and wait till we see how Baron Davis fits when he is back.
This team needs time for our players, to gel, build chemistry, and work as a team.
Our 2nd and 3rd units/lineups, needs the players to find their confidence and roles.
Leave the rest to our coaches to get the most of their players and Grunweld to finish the rest.

And that reminds me of a song....

Seriously, a real center with a ring or an overly-traveled walking stick with the singular ability to put the "offensive" in offensive skills?

Dalemfart should only be mentioned as the possible backup 5 who got away. Anything else is sphincter inctum.

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12/23/2011  7:44 PM
crzymdups wrote:No way to Dalembert. He loafs through games and is not a leader at all.

There's a reason Tyson Chandler commands double the money that Dalembert does - he has at least twice the impact on the game. Tyson will be worth every penny. He's like a defensive coach out there.

Great point. Could you even imagine Sammy telling Stat that he needs to cover his man or rebound harder?

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nykshaknbake
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12/24/2011  11:21 PM
Baron Davis may make this moot for this season and maybe the next. Hopefully in that time Douglas or Shump will learn how to play point competently.
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12/25/2011  1:19 AM
Tyson is a different level of player when it comes to intangibles! That's the difference the stats don't tell you. This team needs the infusion of winning DNA that Tyson brings. The Knicks need a player who will demand accountability and neither Dalembert nor Felton have the clout to do that.
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12/25/2011  2:36 AM
A PG like Felton wasn't available
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12/25/2011  3:24 AM
Dalembert is lazy and stupid.

Chandler is smart and always plays with effort.

Plus he has the respect of his teammates with the championship ring.

We overpaid for Chandler but I would take him 10 times out of 10 over Samuel "Contract Year" Dalembert.

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12/25/2011  5:40 AM
Dalembert stst's always look okay, but fans of the teams he has played for hate him- I'd say even more than some Knick fans hate Jared Jeffries! I haven't seen him play much, but he does have a bad reputation (lazy, selfish, shoots too many outside shopts, thinks he's better than he is, etc etc)- he doesn't care about winning at all. He also overplayed his hand this offseason- he was expecting to get a huge multi year deal like Chandler, Gasol, etc, when really his value is around the MLE. He could of signed for Miami for that and had a shot of winning, instead he's signed a 2 year deal with the Rockets, which only has one year guaranteed- could end up worse off in the long run.
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12/25/2011  9:53 AM
Originally, I wanted to sign Dalembert for the exception this year. I was talking to a friend of mine, who's a 76ers fan, and he said the same thing that a lot people here are saying. He's lazy, takes a lot of dumb shots, has a bad attitude, and generally doesn't give a **** about the team.
Now the joy of my world is in Zion How beautiful if nothing more Than to wait at Zion's door I've never been in love like this before Now let me pray to keep you from The perils that will surely come
Dalembert signs with HOU for 2 years 13.7 Million (cheap) and it begs the question....

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