Vmart wrote:Already on board Shump is no chump.

Nope but we can call him Gump. Run Iman run!.

Larry Hughes?

That's some shizzee, fo' sho'.

Larry Hughes?

The passion, physique and high pulse rate of the Iman separates him from the talented, frustrating and "play when I feel like it" Mr. Hughes

( and makes random observations from just one preseason game)

loweyecue - "He is a rookie and has a lot to prove."

No, he has absolutely nothing to prove. Yes he is a rookie. Yes, he looks tapered in his Knicks uni. Did he take it to a custom tailor?

loweyecue - "One thing I don't want to see him do is play PG"

If the Iman can advance the ball against token pressure it relieves Carmelo from imitating Anthony Mason as often as point forward. He don't care if he plays center, he has stated a willingness to do whatever it takes and I dig that about him.

loweyecue - "I think that (playing lead guard) would stunt his growth."

Stunt his growth? There is nothing wrong with pushing your limits and failing. No matter what playing lead guard does for Shumpert, stunting his growth is not one of them. The young man will learn and adapt.

loweyecue - "Guy is a natural SG with hardcore defensive skills"

Who you calling "guy", dude? "Natural" shooting guard or no, the mofo is a basketball player. Thank you Donnie Walsh.

loweyecue - "we need to stop pretending we don't need a starting PG."

Who is pretending? We need a starting point guard.

loweyecue - "We need to acknowledge that is our biggest gap and fill it by getting BD if possible."

See above. The rumor is that Cali homeys Baron Davis and Tyson Chandler have talked.

loweyecue - "Landry Fields doesn't know what he is doing out there."

Landry Fields knows what he is doing out there.

loweyecue - "Not everyone can do everything."

The Answer Man can do it all.

nixluva wrote:Iman is a Combo guard. There are MANY SG's that lack the talent to play the point at all. Iman is a combo guard and can slide easily between both positions. No need to limit his talent when he clearly can excel being a guard that can create for himself and for others. He's not an Allan Houston type of SG.

Totally agree. He is ideal combo guard, who is playing both ends of the court with equal energy and commitment.

crzymdups wrote:

nixluva wrote:Iman is a Combo guard. There are MANY SG's that lack the talent to play the point at all. Iman is a combo guard and can slide easily between both positions. No need to limit his talent when he clearly can excel being a guard that can create for himself and for others. He's not an Allan Houston type of SG.

what did you see to make you think he's a combo guard? he can pass, but so can melo. so could spree. he's not a sniper like houston was, but i think he is basically a true shooting guard.

look around the nba - there aren't many shooting guards who fit the prototypical mold like Shumpert does. this is a good thing.

and, if the knicks believed iman was a point guard - why did they sign bibby, bdiddy and give toney reps there in the first pre-season game? everything we've heard from the team is that he's a shooting guard. everything we've seen is that he is a shooting guard. i don't know why some are clinging to the idea that he's a PG. he's a SG. which is fine. it's actually great. name the prototypical SGs in the NBA right now - there aren't many. it's a very good thing to have a young guy like iman who can potentially play well above average at the position for years to come.

what sepperates a PG from a SG? The ability to score, shoot, size, ability to create for others, ability to pass?
What is a combo guard?
What is a scoring PG
Wht is a passing SG?

iverson
larry hughes
gilbert

wade
roy
rose
westbrook
wall

almost all these players were PG's at one point or will be SGs.
it depends on their team.
Brandon Roy had the size advantage over PG's but was asked to play SG because of his ability to score
They would lose their size advantage but sometimes SG's have a tough time guarding a player with that speed and handle.

Iman has the abilities of a PG and he has the ability to score.
He can defend both positions but he has a clear advantage on PGs.
So why would I want to lose that?
He has played PG his entire life...

his shot is the weaker part of his game right now, even though he shows he can shoot it as well.
I think a lot of people here view a position according to their size and not by their skill set.
all of these guys above could play either position.
But to call iverson a SG, telling him to guard Jordan is just not fair.
He came in the league as a PG and had assist, he was asked to play SG because he had the ability to score.

We have our offense generated by Amare and Melo right now.
While he can be a scorer as well, he can LOCKDOWN and DOMINATE many PG's his size.

Now what is

steve kerr
eric gordon
billups
randy foye
bledsoe

jameer nelson
augistine
kemba walker
reddick
tyreke evans

theres a bunch of players out there that you can argue for either way. The questions are, if they are capable of facilitating? Which positions can they guard?

If Nash, decides to just go off and tried to score majority of plays, which i think he could have when he was younger...
does that make him a SG? even if he is able to do what he does as a PG?
He chooses to distribute and create, he could look to be a 20+ scorer easily and go off more much more....