[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

Nets close to signing Nene: 4 years 65 million
Author Thread
Killa4luv
Posts: 27769
Alba Posts: 51
Joined: 6/23/2002
Member: #261
USA
12/10/2011  11:56 AM
Nene, the top center left in free agency, is reportedly pushing for a max contract and could get the most money by re-signing with the Nuggets. But after the Nets missed out on free agent Tyson Chandler, who agreed to a deal with the Knicks, they upped the offer for Nene to four years, $70 million, according to a source.

It’s unclear what signing Nene would mean in terms of the Nets trading for Howard, but the proposal highlighted by Brook Lopez and cap space would have to be reworked. As of Friday evening, the only new Nets in training camp were the two rookies and the free agents picked up from the D-League affiliate.



70 million for a non defensive, non rebounding center? PLEASE SIGN HIM!!!!!!

I hope the Nets don't get Dwight, Dwight should go out west.

AUTOADVERT
Knicksfan
Posts: 33474
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
12/10/2011  12:06 PM
And some say we overpaid for Tyson, who is better than Nene? Haha
Knicks_Fan
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/10/2011  12:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2011  12:27 PM
Nene > Chandler

It is a good deal for the Nets because now they will have a front court of Nene and Lopez. Nene will probably be playing PF for them. Plus Deron Williams is still their PG.

I honestly think Lopez is pretty much trade bait at this point though.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
MSG3
Posts: 22788
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/2/2009
Member: #2476
USA
12/10/2011  12:26 PM
Nene is not better than Chandler. His defense and rebounding are putrid.
FeltonandAmare
Posts: 20219
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/9/2010
Member: #3326

12/10/2011  12:37 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Nene > Chandler

It is a good deal for the Nets because now they will have a front court of Nene and Lopez. Nene will probably be playing PF for them. Plus Deron Williams is still their PG.

I honestly think Lopez is pretty much trade bait at this point though.

That's absurd. I live in Denver and have had to put up with Nene's inconsistent and uninspired play for years. The consensus in Denver is that he's not worth the investment and is a cancer in the locker room. Good Luck Nets! They'll need it. The Nets panicked after they couldn't get Howard. Trust me Nene will be viewed as
a problem child in Net land sooner rather than later.

SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127

12/10/2011  12:40 PM
Depends what you want. If you want scoring, Nene is better. If you want shot blocking and rebounding, Chandler is better. Clearly Chandler is better for this roster
DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
loweyecue
Posts: 27468
Alba Posts: 6
Joined: 11/20/2005
Member: #1037

12/10/2011  12:45 PM
The Knicks made major moves and the Nets screwed themselves. I can almost taste Christmas! No lets go hand Boston their collective rear ends. I want to kick Boston's A$S
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
y2zipper
Posts: 20946
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/30/2010
Member: #3287

12/10/2011  12:48 PM
Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.
Knicksfan
Posts: 33474
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
12/10/2011  12:51 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Nene > Chandler

It is a good deal for the Nets because now they will have a front court of Nene and Lopez. Nene will probably be playing PF for them. Plus Deron Williams is still their PG.

I honestly think Lopez is pretty much trade bait at this point though.

In which universe Nene is better than Chandler?

Can you imagine a front court of Nene and Lopez? They could be out-rebounded and out-played in the post daily. Chandler brings exactly what you need from a center, while Nene, not even a true center, brings none.

And to pay him 10mill or more than what we will pay Chandler?

Priceless

Knicks_Fan
BigSm00th
Posts: 24504
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 12/9/2001
Member: #178
USA
12/10/2011  12:52 PM
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

"younger" by one month. they are the same age.

chandler is an elite rebounder and defender. nene isn't elite at anything.

chandler > nene

#Knickstaps
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/10/2011  12:54 PM
MSG3 wrote:Nene is not better than Chandler. His defense and rebounding are putrid.

Nene Hilario has more skills than Chandler and this isnt even debatable.

Nene can handle the ball and has some post moves. Chandler is ONLY defense, rebounding, and alley oops.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
y2zipper
Posts: 20946
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 10/30/2010
Member: #3287

12/10/2011  12:55 PM
BigSm00th wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

"younger" by one month. they are the same age.

chandler is an elite rebounder and defender. nene isn't elite at anything.

chandler > nene

Again it's not by any significant margin and Nene is a good fit for the Nets because he can score from the frontcourt and they already have Lopez, who can defend and Rebound.

MSG3
Posts: 22788
Alba Posts: 4
Joined: 2/2/2009
Member: #2476
USA
12/10/2011  12:58 PM
y2zipper wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

"younger" by one month. they are the same age.

chandler is an elite rebounder and defender. nene isn't elite at anything.

chandler > nene

Again it's not by any significant margin and Nene is a good fit for the Nets because he can score from the frontcourt and they already have Lopez, who can defend and Rebound.

For his size, Lopez may be the worst rebounder and defender ever.

Knicksfan
Posts: 33474
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
12/10/2011  12:59 PM
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

First of all, where do you get that Nene is younger?

Nene Hilario:
Height: 6-11
Born: Sep 13, 1982

Tyson Chandler:
Height: 7-1
Born: Oct 2, 1982

Second, Nene is better? In which league? Just because Nene is more offensive minded, doesn't mean he is better when Chandler clearly does his job as a center (meaning defense, rebounding, shot blocking, inside presence) miles better than Nene.

Third, Brook Lopez, who knows nothing about defense and rebounding, would actually benefit from a guy like Chandler, who would be a better complement to his game than Nene.

Knicks_Fan
Knicksfan
Posts: 33474
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
12/10/2011  1:00 PM
MSG3 wrote:
y2zipper wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

"younger" by one month. they are the same age.

chandler is an elite rebounder and defender. nene isn't elite at anything.

chandler > nene

Again it's not by any significant margin and Nene is a good fit for the Nets because he can score from the frontcourt and they already have Lopez, who can defend and Rebound.

For his size, Lopez may be the worst rebounder and defender ever.

+1000000000000...

Knicks_Fan
SupremeCommander
Posts: 34057
Alba Posts: 35
Joined: 4/28/2006
Member: #1127

12/10/2011  1:02 PM
y2zipper wrote:
BigSm00th wrote:
y2zipper wrote:Nene is better and younger than Chandler, but Chandler is a better defensive player and rebounder and is a better fit for the Knicks. Nene is a better fit for the Nets because he's a better offensive player than Chandler and is a good tandem with Brook Lopez and Deron Williams.

"younger" by one month. they are the same age.

chandler is an elite rebounder and defender. nene isn't elite at anything.

chandler > nene

Again it's not by any significant margin and Nene is a good fit for the Nets because he can score from the frontcourt and they already have Lopez, who can defend and Rebound.

I think it's a soft front court. Talent and finesse, but soft

DLeethal wrote: Lol Rick needs a safe space
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/10/2011  1:08 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2011  1:09 PM
Neither Nene or Chandler are worth their contracts.

Nene however can provide some offense other than alley oops. One man isnt going to make us a defensive juggernaut. Denver 2 years ago look pretty dam good defensively. Im just saying.

We have seen what playing 4 on 5 does during Jefferies tenure here.

Oh and Im pretty sure we couldn't afford Nene.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
Knicksfan
Posts: 33474
Alba Posts: 27
Joined: 7/5/2004
Member: #691
USA
12/10/2011  1:18 PM
AnubisADL wrote:Neither Nene or Chandler are worth their contracts.

Nene however can provide some offense other than alley oops. One man isnt going to make us a defensive juggernaut. Denver 2 years ago look pretty dam good defensively. Im just saying.

We have seen what playing 4 on 5 does during Jefferies tenure here.

Oh and Im pretty sure we couldn't afford Nene.

Size is always at premium prices, so you can't really say neither is worth their contracts, especially Chandler, who was one of the main reasons the Mavs went from perennial contenders to finally champions. Take Chandler away from that Mavs team and they don't win.

You keep talking about Nene's offense, but like NY, NJ doesn't need offense as much as defense, especially down low with horrible defender Brook Lopez.

Its funny you talk like Chandler like he is an offensive liability like Jeffries when he is FAR from that. The guy has improved consistently in his offense and brings a 10pts average from an already offensively powerful team to another offensively powerful team. Forgot we have Melo and Amar'e on the team?

And please, if we had wanted Nene as our #1 option, he would've been. His price is actually increasing to ridiculous levels only because the Nets no longer have Chandler, their #1 Free Agent option, available.

Knicks_Fan
AnubisADL
Posts: 27382
Alba Posts: 13
Joined: 6/29/2009
Member: #2771
USA
12/10/2011  1:27 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/10/2011  1:33 PM
Knicksfan wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Neither Nene or Chandler are worth their contracts.

Nene however can provide some offense other than alley oops. One man isnt going to make us a defensive juggernaut. Denver 2 years ago look pretty dam good defensively. Im just saying.

We have seen what playing 4 on 5 does during Jefferies tenure here.

Oh and Im pretty sure we couldn't afford Nene.

Size is always at premium prices, so you can't really say neither is worth their contracts, especially Chandler, who was one of the main reasons the Mavs went from perennial contenders to finally champions. Take Chandler away from that Mavs team and they don't win.

You keep talking about Nene's offense, but like NY, NJ doesn't need offense as much as defense, especially down low with horrible defender Brook Lopez.

Its funny you talk like Chandler like he is an offensive liability like Jeffries when he is FAR from that. The guy has improved consistently in his offense and brings a 10pts average from an already offensively powerful team to another offensively powerful team. Forgot we have Melo and Amar'e on the team?

And please, if we had wanted Nene as our #1 option, he would've been. His price is actually increasing to ridiculous levels only because the Nets no longer have Chandler, their #1 Free Agent option, available.

- Mavs won because Dirk went crazy in the playoffs.

- That is like saying the Heat dont need offense from the center position because they have Bosh, Wade, and Lebron. You ideally want to have offense from all positions other wise teams can trap and double team your scorers. I want the Knicks to be hard to guard.

- Chandler is an offensive liability because he has no offense outside of 3 feet from the basket.

NY Knicks - Retirement home for players and GMs
Nalod
Posts: 71157
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
12/10/2011  1:30 PM

BroPez with less burden to carry could focus on defense and rebounding.

BroPez got offensive game. Nene is a good defender when motivated.

Let them figure it out. We got what we needed. Nene is a 4.

Nets close to signing Nene: 4 years 65 million

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy