nixluva wrote:Nalod wrote:eViL wrote:Nalod i know you are subtly trying to make the point that the owners made mistakes and that they are trying to fix them now and hence the battle with the players over salaries. Nix point is that the owner's previous "solutions" have done nothing to fix the league. why should we believe that continuing in the direction that the owners want to go in will work?
You don't. Its theres to break or fix. Its all based on theory.
IF its not working, why continue? Players know its broken. Im not taking sides BTW, just an observer.
eViL is speaking to my point that the owners have been messing up the system and it's their own fault that things didn't work out financially. They didn't enact the new rules due to a lack of profit, but rather to try and limit the power of the large markets. The league was making money before they made those changes, which is why they agreed to giving the players such a large portion of the BRI!!! What the owners didn't account for was the way their new ideas would impact the way teams gave players contracts. The new Max Contract and MLE only served to hurt the small market teams tho they intended that it would take away the advantages of the large markets. The big market teams still had an advantage in that the Luxury Tax wasn't stiff enough and on top of that the Max Contract and MLE served to spread the cost of Labor away from the big market teams down to the small market teams.
Case in point. If the small market teams lower their salaries in an effort to save money, they still get hit cuz the 57% BRI split had to be met and so the money came from a collective pool of all owners. Now in the past the successful teams that could afford to have a Superstar would be paying that player more money since they didn't have a Max on the top salary and thus the Elite players took up a larger % of the total BRI split and the small teams didn't have to carry that burden. There was no MLE and so mediocre players didn't get overpaid on losing teams. Guys like Rashard Lewis would tend not to get the same kind of money as elite players cuz the market didn't have artificial prices set by the new Max Contract levels. Now any player who is a low level All Star or just one of the best players on his team thinks he's a Max Level player and teams felt compelled to pay at or near max levels. So now the owners are back with new ideas. How do we know they know what they're doing any better than before? I don't think they do.
You have a new friend. A sort of buddy in your quest.
it's their own fault that things didn't work out financially
And there you go again. Rinse and repete.
All CBA problems are the owners fault in the history of any league. WE know this.
So now the owners are back with new ideas. How do we know they know what they're doing any better than before? I don't think they do.
You don't "think so"?
How do we know if it will work? The less the players get the more the owenrs get. Well there is a revelation of sorts. I done reckon that the less the players get the statistical probality of owner success increases. I have not stayed at a Holiday Inn express to work up that nor have "A beautiful Mind".
The logic presented is if the owners have not succeeded before giving the players more is NOT going to help?
Or no matter what the owners do it is doomed to fail anyway, so let the players have 53% cuz its the "Right" thing to do. After all, "they had such a good season last year."
As Obama say's: Its math!