jrodmc wrote:tkf wrote:Nalod wrote:Nix, I can see a theme that your basing much on your own personal opinion and bias. Your entitled to. A moral values based position is not very debatable. You have your opinion, but "seems to me the owners who are already filthy rich outside of BB" is hardly a negotiating point. Its like playground talk. "You have all the candy and we have none, not fair"!
The negotiations are not for public consumption in all detail. What we know at this juncture is the owners have drawn a line in the sand. This is not to demoralize the players, its math. Your sympathetic that you feel the players are the ones giving up things and the owners have been stupid and asking the players to foot the bill for it. Ok, we got you and thats your position. But its subjective. Very few if any are saying the owners have the same moral position as you do with the players. We don't hear the owners complaining nor feeling disrespected by a finger being pointed to. The owners are businessmen and the athletes are not in the same league as these guys when it comes to this. Players don't have the leverage. The owners are clearly prepared to lose revenue over this and cancel games. They clearly have decided that the future of the league as a viable growing business depends on a better revenue split as expenses have not grown with revenue and an economic slow down is not the same as the previous CBA. This ain't the 1990's. Many of us are not making the same money as we did pre 2008. Nalod included!
don't forget the middle class workers for the team that are not making over $100,000 and have families to take care of. The food venders, the beer guys, the cute greeters at the arena, and front office staff. Ticket sales people, receptionists, secretaries, etc. Nix, they NEED raises and what is all known is if ticket prices still go up fewer people will buy tickets, fewer companies can spend on boxes, and those people don't get raises and get hurt. feeling bad for a guy who makes 12 million vs. 14 million is not all of what this is about. ITs far more reaching.
Shame of the owners for locking this down and making many of the common folk pained by this. Many were told over a year this would happen and many took pay cuts to keep there jobs during this.
Being "filthy" rich is not a moral justification to not lock out.
GREAT POST NALOD... the bolded part sums it up very well. I think that is the problem with a lot of people.. the owners are filthy rich SOB's... and they deserve to lose money... One guy on another site said, I rather someone like eddy curry make the extra millions than give it to the owners...LOL.. really? you rather someone steal the money than a person who put up his capital to earn a few extra bucks(relatively speaking).. wow...just mindboggling...
+1. You could publish this as an essay entitled: "The fuel that feeds the ever-entitled, poor victim mentality."
LOL..that mentality just kills me man, especially when we are talking about guys who have no financial risk whatsoever, yet they can make millions and still feel they are not only entitled to more, but are "giving" the owners money back..... go figure
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser...............
TKF
