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knicks1248
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9/26/2011  7:48 PM
During Thursday's negotiations, the league offered players a 46 percent share of basketball-related revenue, 11 percent less than they received in the last deal and 7 percent less than the last proposal by players, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Bucher.

In negotiations, the players' union had offered to reduce its percentage to as much as 54 percent, with the stipulation that a mechanism would be instituted to reward the players if future revenue increased, the source said.

The owners agreed to try to come up with a mechanism to solve their issues without adding a hard salary cap before the next meeting, according to the source. The owners, who have claimed they lost $300 million last season, have been seeking a hard cap -- a condition the players have been unwilling to accept.

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nixluva
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9/26/2011  8:58 PM
Vmart wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:I'm confident a deal will get hammered out.

The player will accept a lesser percentage to keep guaranteed contracts.

I'm on the owners side on this. I like the idea of guaranteed contracts but jerome James, Eddie Curry and some others like Alan Houston should come to mind when discussing Guaranteed contracts.

I can't agree with this. There haven't been enough Eddy Curry types to punish the entire league. There's a way that the owners could come to some agreement with the players on contract lengths. The real issue is that the league hasn't been able to come up with revenue sharing plan all the owners would agree to. They owners are the ones that have handed out ridiculous contracts. What the heck was the deal with the Joe Johnson contract extension??? Is that a player problem or an owner problem? No one forced the Knicks to give Jerome James that contract! Admit it, this is a mostly owner made problem.

Vmart
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9/27/2011  10:57 AM
If it is a owner problem then it is in their right to fix the problem. A bad guaranteed contract can keep a club hostage for many years. Guys I hate to say it but players need to be paid for playing. I guarantee it that if the rule was you have to be active to earn full amount of the salary, guys like Curry would have been in better shape and ready to play the game. Alan Houston type contracts wouldn't be so bad. If Alan Houston's $100 Million was reduced to $25 Million would it have been so bad? I think Players will agree with this because at the end of the day in sports it is all crap shoot on who will get hurt and who won't, who will dog it and who won't.
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9/27/2011  11:12 AM
is the lockout over yet? i signed up for fantasy basketball this year.
Had enough Melo?
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9/27/2011  1:48 PM
Vmart wrote:If it is a owner problem then it is in their right to fix the problem. A bad guaranteed contract can keep a club hostage for many years. Guys I hate to say it but players need to be paid for playing. I guarantee it that if the rule was you have to be active to earn full amount of the salary, guys like Curry would have been in better shape and ready to play the game. Alan Houston type contracts wouldn't be so bad. If Alan Houston's $100 Million was reduced to $25 Million would it have been so bad? I think Players will agree with this because at the end of the day in sports it is all crap shoot on who will get hurt and who won't, who will dog it and who won't.

That is a hell of a statement right there.

knicks1248
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9/27/2011  2:54 PM
Nalod wrote:
Vmart wrote:If it is a owner problem then it is in their right to fix the problem. A bad guaranteed contract can keep a club hostage for many years. Guys I hate to say it but players need to be paid for playing. I guarantee it that if the rule was you have to be active to earn full amount of the salary, guys like Curry would have been in better shape and ready to play the game. Alan Houston type contracts wouldn't be so bad. If Alan Houston's $100 Million was reduced to $25 Million would it have been so bad? I think Players will agree with this because at the end of the day in sports it is all crap shoot on who will get hurt and who won't, who will dog it and who won't.

That is a hell of a statement right there.

you can't always look at an injury like that..Eddie curry was able to play, Mike refuse to play him because he didn't think he would help..Just lace the contracts with incentives, split the BRI 50/50, serious injuries (30 games or more) are partially covered by INS, and lets play some damn basketball you greedy f'''s.

Don't forget, STERN gets zero salary during this lockout..

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9/27/2011  4:03 PM
knicks1248 wrote:Don't forget, STERN gets zero salary during this lockout..


At least there is a God.

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9/27/2011  4:04 PM
HEY, H2O gave it his all!!! Remember that when we needed him, he kept playing thru pain that last year before his knees burnt out. It's not like he was eating himself out of playing shape or was lazy. I'm not so concerned with the money the owners spend on players legitimately, but they should NEVER have signed H2O to that huge of a contract. What was he supposed to say "no Thanks, i'll take 60 mil instead"? The Knicks bid against themselves, just like the Hawks did with Joe Johnson. That is an owner problem and to be honest it's separate from cap relief when a player gets injured. The league could legislate that to free teams up cap wise.

My point was about the supposed $300 mil the NBA teams collectively lost. Which isn't really true either since some teams actually turned a profit. But overall that amount of money would be easy to recover spread out over all the teams. $10 mil a team isn't a lot of money. Revenue sharing is all on the owners and being more responsible with signing big contracts is also on the owners. The league could contract and save some money too. So how are the players responsible for the problems the league has?

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