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OT: Civil Rights historian states that NCAA sports are a 'shame.'
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Nalod
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9/23/2011  7:28 AM

Pres, I think you assume so many go on to pro careers. What are the numbers? 1%? 2%? that will advance?

What about students on scholarship who do research and the college has the patent rights? What if after years of research there is no tangible result and no marketable result ensues? should the research student give back the money? Does not happen. ONly becomes and issue when a student creates something. Would they have created value outside the environment in which it was created?

Same thing, most football players have no value outside the college ranks as they are not good enough to play pro. Without those players you can't have a team.

There are so many success stories of kids who might not be college material actually elevated themselves being in that environment and succeeded outside of football. Even those that are sports oriented, how many become coaches, trainers, or get some degree. These schools also provided many jobs and bring a lot of money into the community for these games. Hotels and restaurants do very well.

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9/26/2011  12:02 PM
PresIke wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Oh please. "Whiff of the plantation". MLK jr. would be rolling over in his grave. Are the student atheletes getting a free ride??? Would most students on the rest of the campus love to be putting up with the indignity of not having "due process" in order not to worry about paying a few tens of thousands in loans and interest for their education?

IS ANYONE BEATING THEM INTO PLAYING COLLEGE SPORTS????????

Why the hell does anyone equate someone making money with the fabulous idea that everyone else should be making the same or equal amounts of money? If the coaches get paid insanely, what's that got to do with what happens to student atheletes? Because they're atheletes and putting fannies in the seats at the college, they're supposed to instantly be getting a slice of the whole pie? They're exactly the same and entitled to the same pay or at least some kind of pay as college coaches and college administrators? Folks who, right or wrong, greedy or not, corrupt or not, are employed, and probably have to have resumes backing up what they're doing in order to be in a position to be watching all those billions flowing by? Is the university housing these student atheletes? Is the university providing them with the possibility of a good education? Is the university allowing them a platform to display their skills and possibly be one of the few who go on to the pros?

When did this entitlement issue come about for every and everyone as a Constitutional right? I truly don't understand this line of thinking. I'm an 18 year old, I have insane hops and a mad fluid jumper. I'm a big HS star. I score 100 points a game. I get courted left and right, and I get to pick and choose where to go. When I get there, I have possibly 4 years of a free ride that 99% of the population would beg to have. I have tutors, I have the best of everything. If I apply myself and work hard, I get a degree; and yes, if I happen to have that rare something that not one out of thousands playing college sports has, I will possibly be making hundreds of thousands right out of college, if not sooner. Possibly millions. If not, I still have a degree, if I haven't spent 4 years wasting any time that I wasn't on a court or a field.

Yeah, that sure sounds like plantation living to me. NPR. It figures.
Let me go pull up some pictures of American slavery in the 1850's. Probably looks exactly like university campus living.

free ride to what?

if you were good at your job and the company offered to pay for a degree that had zip to do with your interest, but they thought it would be nice for you to have because they think it would make you a better person, or whatever, would you take it, while they make billions and your manager makes millions?

who said the same pay? how about actual close to fair payment like normal workers?

i don't exepect my workplace to house me. this is a silly argument that wastes our time.

so workers who do work that someone makes money off of should not be paid? hah! tell that to any workers under an employer, when you are good enough to help someone make billions that this makes anywhere near normal sense.

just for arguments sake, a college intern is not the same as a d1 college football player at a top 10 school, but for some reason we are using the same analogy for accepting crap 'pay' for work.

this term 'free ride' is interesting to me because why is it a 'free ride?' if you are talented at something that someone can make money off of it, generally speaking, that's not called a 'free ride.' that's called 'earning a living' from where i come from, and most of us. if we did something we were good at, whether it's genetic, or learned, or both, it's not a 'free ride.' this makes little sense to me, my friend.

Free ride to what? Seriously? How much do you think a Div1 degree costs these days? $100K? $120K? What's that "free ride" worth once you're out in the real world that I live in and you have that little chip on the end of your resume? In the world I live in, my friend, having a degree from a big name Div 1 school equates into a real job which equates into real dollars.

Playing and practicing and traveling around for a sport in college is about as close to being a "normal worker" as your arguments are to "normal logic", my friend.

OT: Civil Rights historian states that NCAA sports are a 'shame.'

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