You can imagine that about a 1/2 of the franchises made money, another 1/4 probably were borderline break even and no more than a 1/4 lost money. I don't think it's even that many, but i'd give them that. Now how much of that was due to poor management? I'd say 100% of the teams losing money was self inflicted. The players don't control the purse strings, only the Owners and GM's do. This season was exciting, attendance was up and the playoffs were great. Just look at the team attendance and % of capacity. Some teams like the Kings have an awful and small stadium which is part of the reason for poor turnout in addition to a losing team. If you did some simple math just going with the avg ticket price for an NBA game of $48.00 a team like the Mavs made no less than about 40 mil from home game ticket sale alone. Now we know there are other revenue streams for NBA teams, but the idea that all the NBA teams are losing money is nuts. Only certain teams did really bad. Half the teams were at or near capacity. Viewership was good this year. The owners want to make it nearly impossible for them to lose money no matter how badly they run their teams.

2011                            Attendance	Home	
RK	TEAM	        GMS	TOTAL	     AVG	PCT	
1	Mavericks	41	824,162	     20,101	104.7	
2	Bulls	        41	893,462	     21,791	104.2		
3	Trail Blazers	41	840,924	     20,510	102.7	
4	Magic	        41	777,852	     18,972	102.6	
5	Heat	        41	810,930	     19,778	100.9	
6	Celtics	        41	763,584	     18,624	100.0
7	NY Knicks	41	808,879	     19,728	99.8	
8	Lakers	        41	778,877	     18,997	99.7	
9       Thunder	        41	744,068	     18,148	99.7	
10	Spurs	        41	750,879	     18,314	98.6	
11	Jazz	        41	799,982	     19,511	98.0	
12	Cavaliers	41	824,595	     20,112	97.8	
13	Warriors	41	766,398	     18,692	95.4	
14      Suns	        41	720,249	     17,567	95.4	
15	Clippers	41	727,462	     17,742	93.1	
16	Rockets	        41	663,839	     16,191	89.7	
17	Nuggets	        41	692,968	     16,901	88.2	
18	Hornets	        41	603,088	     14,709	86.1	
19	Raptors	        41	679,208	     16,566	83.7	
20	Hawks	        41	641,596	     15,648	83.6	
21	Wizards	        41	688,466	     16,791	83.2	
22	Bobcats	        41	649,694	     15,846	83.1	
23	Bucks	        41	631,910	     15,412	82.3	
24	Grizzlies	41	600,687	     14,650	80.9	
25	Nets	        41	581,378	     14,179	80.6	
26	Kings	        41	569,496	     13,890	80.2	
27	Timberwolves	41	624,960	     15,242	78.8	
28	Pistons	        41	683,080	     16,660	75.5	
29	Pacers	        41	555,077	     13,538	74.5	
30	76ers	        41	604,823	     14,751	72.6	

nixluva wrote:Anyone arguing for the side of the owners has my sympathy, cuz you've been duped. This is a high risk luxury to own an NBA team. Very few owners actually LIVE off the money they make from the team solely. It's an investment they made after making tons of money in some other endeavor. Just like Dolan knew exactly how much money he was signing off on during the Layden and Isiah era, all these owners willingly accept the cost of doing business. An owner could simply say NO to a big contract that would bankrupt his franchise. Besides the NBA did way better than they anticipated. Remember before the season Stern warned that the Cap would go down significantly? Only to find that the league did much better than they expected and the major drop in Cap didn't happen!!!

You can imagine that about a 1/2 of the franchises made money, another 1/4 probably were borderline break even and no more than a 1/4 lost money. I don't think it's even that many, but i'd give them that. Now how much of that was due to poor management? I'd say 100% of the teams losing money was self inflicted. The players don't control the purse strings, only the Owners and GM's do. This season was exciting, attendance was up and the playoffs were great. Just look at the team attendance and % of capacity. Some teams like the Kings have an awful and small stadium which is part of the reason for poor turnout in addition to a losing team. If you did some simple math just going with the avg ticket price for an NBA game of $48.00 a team like the Mavs made no less than about 40 mil from home game ticket sale alone. Now we know there are other revenue streams for NBA teams, but the idea that all the NBA teams are losing money is nuts. Only certain teams did really bad. Half the teams were at or near capacity. Viewership was good this year. The owners want to make it nearly impossible for them to lose money no matter how badly they run their teams.

2011                            Attendance	Home	
RK	TEAM	        GMS	TOTAL	     AVG	PCT	
1	Mavericks	41	824,162	     20,101	104.7	
2	Bulls	        41	893,462	     21,791	104.2		
3	Trail Blazers	41	840,924	     20,510	102.7	
4	Magic	        41	777,852	     18,972	102.6	
5	Heat	        41	810,930	     19,778	100.9	
6	Celtics	        41	763,584	     18,624	100.0
7	NY Knicks	41	808,879	     19,728	99.8	
8	Lakers	        41	778,877	     18,997	99.7	
9       Thunder	        41	744,068	     18,148	99.7	
10	Spurs	        41	750,879	     18,314	98.6	
11	Jazz	        41	799,982	     19,511	98.0	
12	Cavaliers	41	824,595	     20,112	97.8	
13	Warriors	41	766,398	     18,692	95.4	
14      Suns	        41	720,249	     17,567	95.4	
15	Clippers	41	727,462	     17,742	93.1	
16	Rockets	        41	663,839	     16,191	89.7	
17	Nuggets	        41	692,968	     16,901	88.2	
18	Hornets	        41	603,088	     14,709	86.1	
19	Raptors	        41	679,208	     16,566	83.7	
20	Hawks	        41	641,596	     15,648	83.6	
21	Wizards	        41	688,466	     16,791	83.2	
22	Bobcats	        41	649,694	     15,846	83.1	
23	Bucks	        41	631,910	     15,412	82.3	
24	Grizzlies	41	600,687	     14,650	80.9	
25	Nets	        41	581,378	     14,179	80.6	
26	Kings	        41	569,496	     13,890	80.2	
27	Timberwolves	41	624,960	     15,242	78.8	
28	Pistons	        41	683,080	     16,660	75.5	
29	Pacers	        41	555,077	     13,538	74.5	
30	76ers	        41	604,823	     14,751	72.6	

I think there needs to be some concessions by the players - lowering the max players' salary; shortening the length of contracts, etc, but for the most part, it is the owners that are screwing everyone with the lockout. They are screwing the players, especially the rookies and lower salaried players who need the income, and they are screwing the fans. i.e. us!

I wonder if the owners get a $45 mil cap, will they lower ticket prices? The Knicks used to have a salary of almost $100 million and they still made money. Now it may be half of that...and Dolan is raising ticket prices.

Moonangie wrote:

According to NBA executives familiar with the league’s strategies, once the lockout is in place, the owners will push for a hard salary cap of $45 million, the elimination of guaranteed contracts and ask that the players swallow a 33 percent salary cut.

The concessions made in recent weeks, including the “flex cap” of $62 million and a guarantee of $2 billion in annual player payroll, will be off the table.

If this seems certain to guarantee the loss of the entire 2011-12 season, it is because there are owners who think it is necessary for the long-term viability of the league.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/214454/Source_Owners_Will_Push_For_$45_Million_Hard_Cap_Once_Lockout_Begins#ixzz1QgYizyIM

If this has any truth to it and the season is lost, does that mean CP3 will be a FA or does he have to actually play the final year of his contract, regardless of which calendar year it is?