He can instantly become a fan favorite and if he the physical skills for the rebounding, shot blocking, and help defense we haven't had for over 10+ years. He will need someone to keep him in check, but I feel we have to roll a dice on him because he has the game we desperately need. It is a low risk and high reward. Maybe a 3 year deal in which we have the 3rd year team option. We need his

Aaron Gray is another big boy, Josh Herrollson can learn of. Greg Foster is the blue collar garbage man that plays that same role. Kurt Thomas is a solid player. However, he isn't a shot blocking at all. I wouldn't mind Kurt Thomas and his 1 inch vertical because he can be a great locker room player, and can physically and verbally be a player/coach at the defensive end.

Bllups
Fields
Melo
Amare
Jerome Jordan

Turiaf
TD
Shumpert
Shawn WIlliams *if we can resign*
Josh Harrellson
Balkman
Rautins
Walker * 1m team option*

So possible 2/maybe 3 if we don't extend Bill Walker. We need 15 spots on our roster and we can put 1 person in the D league? Does he count as a roster spot until we call him back?
Possibles
With Donnie saying he isn't looking to sign more than 1 year deals or do have enough salary to sign a 3rd max player next summer...
We have to sign players and fill our holes with the minimum. We obviously have holes to fill but it would be hard to sign players if we are lowballing them for money and years. I think we have to be able to offer more years for a chance to get some useful role players.

Juylan Stone/ Ben Hansborough/ Anthony Parker
Sean Williams *Greg Smith*
Aaron Gray *greg foster* *Kurt Thomas* *Reggie Evans*

for next summer, I would prefer Dwight Howard, if we get Cp3 or Deron Williams, we would have to sign a center. For a decent player we would have to probably wait for 2013 summer to use the MLE. I am not sure if Amare and even Melo would be still great players as they were or will be on a great downfall by then.

I am not sure by then if we can't sign Dwight, would we be better off with a Center like

Duncan
Gasol
DeAndre Jordan
or even Chris Kaman

rather than a max contract to

Cp3
Deron WIlliams.

Would it be more cost efficient to sign

Kaman and Mo Williams

I would love to be able to add

Ray Allen
KG

I think a Dwight Howard signing would intrigue Ray and KG over.
Do you guys think Cp3 or Deron could have the same effect?
I think if Shumpert shows he can become a solid PG, would we be better off going for a center instead?
I think Duncan is on his last contract but he is still a top defensive center in the league. I wouldn't look to pay him max but if we can add him with still enough to offer 3m to
Ray Allen and KG at 3-5 more years, would it be enough to add their talents?

Ira wrote:I'm not a Kwame fan, but if it upsets Stephen A. Smith that much, maybe we should sign him.

lol. i like it.

RonRon wrote:I am talking about Sean Williams.

I really feel he can help our team with his strengths of his game. The reason why Anthony Randolph didn't want to play a Jared Jeffries role, are because he wants to show he can be the 2nd star. AR has the tools to play the exact same role as JJ2, if he just tried not to shoot and score every time he touched the ball or get a stat. Let the game come to him and do the dirty work. Rebounding, setting picks, shot blocking, in stead of trying to score all the time. He wanted to earn his next contract.

I feel if we sign a player like Sean Williams he would do the same exact thing if we gave him a 1 year deal. If we give him a 2-3rd year team option, he could show his value and play team basketball. He is still young and wants to earn the next contract but I don't want him to try to become a 3rd superstar right away. He can earn a role playing defense, grabbing rebounds, and shot blocking. Let an assistant coach work with him and improve his game...

First, you never ever give a guy who hasn't been in the NBA any type of deal outside of a tryout, and it's because they have already demonstrated that they have failed in the NBA, especially in Sean's case.

Knicks need shot blocking, rebounding, etc., but they dont need a head case, and that's exactly what he is.

And I think you are overstating what AR tried to do: he wasn't so much trying to be the second star (you don't do that in 8 minutes a game), he just had low bball IQ and didn't know how to adjust his game. Sean hasn't been able to adjust his personality and character enough to make a team with his obvious NBA gifts.

martin wrote:

RonRon wrote:I am talking about Sean Williams.

I really feel he can help our team with his strengths of his game. The reason why Anthony Randolph didn't want to play a Jared Jeffries role, are because he wants to show he can be the 2nd star. AR has the tools to play the exact same role as JJ2, if he just tried not to shoot and score every time he touched the ball or get a stat. Let the game come to him and do the dirty work. Rebounding, setting picks, shot blocking, in stead of trying to score all the time. He wanted to earn his next contract.

I feel if we sign a player like Sean Williams he would do the same exact thing if we gave him a 1 year deal. If we give him a 2-3rd year team option, he could show his value and play team basketball. He is still young and wants to earn the next contract but I don't want him to try to become a 3rd superstar right away. He can earn a role playing defense, grabbing rebounds, and shot blocking. Let an assistant coach work with him and improve his game...

First, you never ever give a guy who hasn't been in the NBA any type of deal outside of a tryout, and it's because they have already demonstrated that they have failed in the NBA, especially in Sean's case.

Knicks need shot blocking, rebounding, etc., but they dont need a head case, and that's exactly what he is.

And I think you are overstating what AR tried to do: he wasn't so much trying to be the second star (you don't do that in 8 minutes a game), he just had low bball IQ and didn't know how to adjust his game. Sean hasn't been able to adjust his personality and character enough to make a team with his obvious NBA gifts.

I agree he may be a head case. Do you agree he can bring rebounding/shot blocking? We have limited options with our, if he was never a headcase we would never be in a position to even have him. I think he is an upgrade over Kwame Brown, however I can see the arguement where you might want Kwame over Sean Williams.
You have your own opinions about Sean Williams and I have mine. I think we can should roll the dice on him and I would be sick if he turns it around on another team...

RonRon wrote:I think he can help our team just like how I thought Darko and Anthony Randolph could have. Will coach Dantoni finally put down his pride and try to make the best out of his players and roster? I don't know, but I do he can physically help just like how I thought those 2 would have...

This assumes that if Mike only played those guys that they would've been able to help this team win. What evidence do you have that this is the case given how those players actually performed here? On the flip side of your argument are guys like Shawne Williams, Timo and Fields who busted their butts and earned PT!!! Mike has been the coach of a winning team and knows what that looks like in practice and on the floor. Guys that don't have a winning attitude must go. I don't care if they put up some decent numbers on a losing team!!! We're trying to win games and I want guys that will give 110% and play for the team. The guys who played showed that kind of effort.

I used to get on Walker but even he stepped up his effort level and earned a shot in the playoffs. In the end that's all that matters to Mike. Choose to believe this or not, but the facts are on my side. Look at the guys who busted their butts and they played. Guys that acted like spoiled brats got a ticket out of here.